## Introduction Part of the functionality of the Steem blockchain is the ability to change the percentage of your upvote. For example you may decide to increase your upvote from 20% to 100% if you later decide that you really like a post. Steemit provides the following messages as part of this process. Firstly for removing your downvote: ![Screen Shot 2017-11-28 at 21.00.33.png](https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511903442/h6odmh2slsjmvrmr1hg7.png) Secondly for making your new upvote: ![Screen Shot 2017-11-28 at 21.01.05.png](https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511903422/i9elf3w3w3ceu65iirwv.png) This second message suggests that you will receive curation rewards from your new upvote *(It says "reset". Nowhere does it say that you will not receive any curation rewards)*. However you do not receive any curation rewards on a post on which you change your upvote. **This is not well known. The messages should be changed to make this clear.** I propose : * "Removing your vote will remove any curation rewards for this post. Please note that you will not receive any curation rewards if you subsequently increase the size of your upvote." and * "Please note that changing your vote to an upvote will not result in any curation rewards on this post." ## Example which demonstrates that there are no curation rewards after a change in upvote (for info to demonstrate that such a change is necessary - and important!) Your can reproduce the messages by un-voting and re-voting a post. You can then check after the seven day period that you have received no curation reward. A quicker method is to search through the steemsql database: This query will give you an example of a post on which utopian-io has change their upvote from 2% to 10%. SELECT * FROM TxVotes (NOLOCK) WHERE voter = 'utopian-io' AND author = 'iqbalhood' and permlink = 'building-your-first-multiplatform-apps-using-ionic' ![Screen Shot 2017-11-28 at 21.33.00.png](https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511904829/mtff1s0yyaybs2oqzokx.png) A second query will illustrate that utopian-io has received no curation rewards on this post: SELECT * FROM VOCurationRewards (NOLOCK) WHERE author = 'iqbalhood' and permlink = 'building-your-first-multiplatform-apps-using-ionic' AND curator = 'utopian-io' *This gives no result.* Removing the last SQL line (curator = 'utopian-io') shows all the curation rewards: ![Screen Shot 2017-11-28 at 21.38.39.png](https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511905138/vk3oh7hophfmpjlwk72c.png) ![Screen Shot 2017-11-28 at 21.45.45.png](https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511905571/omduvup6soqdlvdfwnlf.png) Utopian-io is not there. The curation rewards for the first two posters on this post are: ![Screen Shot 2017-11-28 at 21.49.39.png](https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511905829/zad5rfb29llnzpo2k8ex.png) ![Screen Shot 2017-11-28 at 21.47.43.png](https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511905836/ron4s5vfhmb0tmaik2l7.png) This shows where the majority of curation rewards from utopian-io's $27 upvote have ended up. *($27 x 25% = $6.75). *(I am not suggesting there is anything untoward in the behaviour of these posters - it is an issue with the way the system works)* <br /><hr/><em>Posted on <a href="https://utopian.io/utopian-io/@miniature-tiger/misleading-comment-should-explicitly-state-that-there-are-no-curation-rewards-after-a-change-in-upvote-percentage">Utopian.io - Rewarding Open Source Contributors</a></em><hr/>
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root_title | "Misleading Comment: Should explicitly state that there are no curation rewards after a Change in Upvote percentage" | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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author_curate_reward | "" |
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ubg | 0 | 220,344,563 | 1% | ||
creatr | 0 | 408,961,680,221 | 100% | ||
maarnio | 0 | 14,812,923,351 | 10% | ||
abh12345 | 0 | 107,635,002,715 | 25% | ||
freebornangel | 0 | 12,489,138,612 | 20% | ||
steemitboard | 0 | 234,071,798 | 1% | ||
miniature-tiger | 0 | 20,625,522,725 | 100% | ||
ohreally | 0 | 208,149,883 | 1% | ||
ygriffiny | 0 | 4,702,823,688 | 100% | ||
utopian-io | 0 | 3,072,881,893,971 | 2% | ||
iamafra | 0 | 2,818,716,273 | 16% | ||
smitop | 0 | 492,323,196 | 50% | ||
yourconfused | 0 | 61,672,312 | 25% |
Great work! Not sure if it's a bug (a suggestion) but certainly all Steemians should be aware of. I'd add steem and steemit as tags? ace!
post_id | 18,969,275 |
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author | abh12345 |
permlink | re-miniature-tiger-misleading-comment-should-explicitly-state-that-there-are-no-curation-rewards-after-a-change-in-upvote-percentage-20171128t220748204z |
category | utopian-io |
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root_title | "Misleading Comment: Should explicitly state that there are no curation rewards after a Change in Upvote percentage" |
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miniature-tiger | 0 | 20,022,437,265 | 100% |
Thanks! I've added the tags. It's not something I've ever seen written anywhere or been told. There should be a list of quirky rules like this!
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category | utopian-io |
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abh12345 | 0 | 21,526,860,145 | 5% |
i see you are testing it on this thread :D And yes, I agree. Let me know if you find further info!
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author | abh12345 |
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category | utopian-io |
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root_title | "Misleading Comment: Should explicitly state that there are no curation rewards after a Change in Upvote percentage" |
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author | steemitboard |
permlink | steemitboard-notify-miniature-tiger-20171129t012423000z |
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Thanks for your contribution but this is definitely not a bug, it's simply the way the system works. It would have been much better if you had made made your contribution as a suggestion and not bug report. You need to re edit your contribution to reapply for approval. Thank you. You can contact us on [Discord](https://discord.gg/UCvqCsx). **[[utopian-moderator]](https://utopian.io/moderators)**
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author | knowledges |
permlink | re-miniature-tiger-misleading-comment-should-explicitly-state-that-there-are-no-curation-rewards-after-a-change-in-upvote-percentage-20171129t160016581z |
category | utopian-io |
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root_title | "Misleading Comment: Should explicitly state that there are no curation rewards after a Change in Upvote percentage" |
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edit - Ok, got it, thanks! Thanks. Can I switch the category or do I have to create a new post?
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author | miniature-tiger |
permlink | re-knowledges-re-miniature-tiger-misleading-comment-should-explicitly-state-that-there-are-no-curation-rewards-after-a-change-in-upvote-percentage-20171129t164824161z |
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created | 2017-11-29 16:48:24 |
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root_title | "Misleading Comment: Should explicitly state that there are no curation rewards after a Change in Upvote percentage" |
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You do not need to create a new contribution, you can simply edit this contribution and make it look more like a suggestion. Thank you. **[[utopian-moderator]](https://utopian.io/moderators)**
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author | knowledges |
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category | utopian-io |
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Thank you very much for pointing that out. I have definitely been misled by those messages. 😄😇😄 <a href="https://rebrand.ly/3d97" target="_blank"> <img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmWvzuqZ51DoiSjXXf8bukb7JeeVV1eAJJhGBkDiYc8ajj/creatr_ap.gif" alt="@creatr" style="border:0;"> </a>
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permlink | re-miniature-tiger-misleading-comment-should-explicitly-state-that-there-are-no-curation-rewards-after-a-change-in-upvote-percentage-20171129t182929985z |
category | utopian-io |
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No problem @creatr! It is very unclear and one of the rules that I haven't ever seen written down anywhere. I'd be interested to know how many people actually knew this was the case.
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I certainly didn't know. Now that I've met you and observed how knowledgeable you are about the Steemit ecosystem, I would like to mention a different curiosity in the hope that you might know something I don't. ;) Actually, a couple of somewhat related things. Both are related to the payout window, which used to be one month, but is now 7 days. At the end of that time, I can no longer edit my posts, and also I can no longer re-steem the posts of others. I very much want to be able to edit older posts. Steemit Inc. promised that this would be a feature in HF17, but I have not seen that realized. I've written several posts about this, more or less complaining and asking for this feature to be implemented. Later, I discovered that I could find no way to re-steem a post older than seven days. Curiously, I recently noticed that another user, @iamericmorrison, had somehow re-steemed a very old post. I need to ask him how he did that? Specifically, [**this post about Laura Lemons.**](https://steemit.com/suicide/@alexbeyman/rest-in-peace-lauralemons-you-were-dear-to-me-and-everyone-who-knew-you) And so, I mention all this FYI. If you have any knowledge or information or any clue as to how I might work around what I consider to be a very serious problem with Steemit, I would really appreciate it! Particularly if you can help me figure out how to edit older posts, because I especially need to be able to maintain and update my own library (you can see it if you click on the GIF in my first reply. Thanks in advance for any clues you may have to offer! :D BTW, I've been strongly upvoting your excellent posts and am now a follower. ;)
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