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Just got down voted by a new bot account: @firgsia 😂

Ich kenn auch einige von denen. Aber keine Sorge, solange sie da nicht Kohle reinstecken, können sie sich auch nicht gegenseitig hochvoten. (Also zumindest nicht so schnell)

Einfach ignorieren. Ich vermute die Downvotes sind eher ein Nebenprodukt. Wenn man sich den camillesteemer Account anschaut, dann gehen da lauter kleine Zahlungen ein: die ganzen 0,001 Steem die so oft mit irgendwelchen Memos in unseren Accounts landen...

Their votes don't have any weight. If you get 100 downvotes from accounts like those, it still won't matter.

They won't ever get enough SP since they are quickly added to blacklists so even if they upvote each other, it won't do anything for them.

Sie sollten alle diese Konten den Stammreinigern melden, um entlassen zu werden. Das Seltsame ist, dass sie nichts tun! Wer weiß, ob sie dabei sind! Wir sollten uns organisieren, um eine Spur negativer Stimmen zu erstellen, damit wir uns alle abmelden können ..

Highly rEsteemed!

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You have all my support and my possible support, it's people / bots that broke the cock, excuse the direct term but I too have received several of down-vote, the fact that they don't have Steem Power yet means little or nothing , they are bastards that should be eliminated by Steemit

Oui je suis aussi touché. Je subis aussi la même chose.

yes. I have same experience.

I just ignore them  (if account has a single post, I provide a fuckyou in the comments section).

for a few times I reported on them to #steemcleaners in their discord cause it really looks like a steemit abuse for me -- but with no result.

thanks for not keeping it in silence, man.

ps. maybe a good idea to use tags @newsteem #community ?.. idk

I get two downvotes from dust accounts regularly now.  If they have a fake entry post I like to use it as free advertising.  Because if this guy downvotes the right people - maybe they will be  angry too and follow me just to spite the downvote.   I have gotten more following since the downvoting.  So that has been nice - The catfishing accounts are at least getting me more viewers/votes in the long run.

They cannot really affect you but I can see how lots of accounts could eventually maybe I'm years take out your rewards

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@steemflagrewards might be able to help.

Hi @networkallstar

I see it as a problem
For me, a red flag is more than a downvote
Red flag I would compare to a. Referee showing a player off the field. And that means you've gone over the line and have to take your punishment.

I think all the new little accounts that only use the red flag are people behind with another agenda.
Others who come to Steemit now and have signed up with a small account and make their posts will see the red flags as a penalty.
And they will not understand why they are being flagged.
Think about all the new accounts being attacked by the little red flags
Yes, they will do harm, maybe it is enough that new small accounts leave Steemit again.
That is one of the reasons I am against direct red flags without warning.
  https://steemit.com/downvote/@xpilar/open-letter-to-those-who-provide-red-flag-with-downvotes

I think these are fake accounts using delegated Steem Power that they received from new account creation.  It seems like the delegated power should be removed in this case or perhaps we should not let downvotes be cast by accounts who do not have any Steem Power earned of their own.  Another possibility is to only allow downvotes to be cast by accounts who actually have a post waiting to be rewarded during the seven day reward period.

There seems like there are some solutions to this but there does not seem to be much action being taken over it.  In my opinion it is not really good for a social network to permit such behavior because it tends to be annoying and does not encourage cooperation. 

There are so many bot accounts working on their mission. Introduction of separate downvote pool during HF21 has helped them a lot.

Thanks for this post. 
I agree with you that these downvote armies are a problem, and that they could become a HUGE problem.

"The accounts don't have any SteemPower at the moment, but just imagine they start upvoting each other and start using that against defenseless Steemit members!"

I don't think they can upvote each other, because part of their strategy is to not make any posts or comments. This keeps them partly anonymous, and prevents their targets from being able to retaliate or communicate.

I think they're all owned by one person, or small group project. The ones I'm talking about all have about 25 rep (new accounts with no interactions), silly nonsensical names with 5-7 characters, 0 STEEM, and 15 SP delegated from Steemit. That means these are free accounts that Steemit <i>manually</i> accepted onto the blockchain through their account creation process.

Even though these bots can't upvote each other or themselves, they'll still grow, via curation. They can upvote <i>other</i> people's posts/comments (perhaps the posts/comments of their owners). They will also get a trickle of interest, memo dust, and so on. It will be slow, but it puts a clock (timeline) on the blockchain. At some point, this army will prevail, unless something happens to stop it.

Their goal appears to build a completely free, and always-growing, massive downvote tool that has thousands of working parts, can survive rule changes or community blowbacks, and can be divided up as needed to pick off multiple targets every day.

@hyjuki and @criblo are the 2 bots currently downvoting my posts. And there's nothing that can be done about them except try to ignore them.

I notice that several of these bots, when they joined Steemit, immediately used their witness vote to cast a vote for @Curator. Curator is a new bidbot, part of the #NewSteem cult, a downvote-for-hire project funded by all the NewSteem whales and dolphins. It's creepy that whoever runs this downvote army seems to fully support Curator, for some reason. By the way, I am on the record for having criticized Curator's strategy/motivations, and wouldn't be shocked if they considered me an enemy, just sayin. 

I feel somebody or somebodies is/are using HF21's rule changes (ie: free downvotes) to rig the system and take down parts or all of the blockchain. I can see where it's headed if something doesn't change. You're right to sound the alarm on this as it has the potential to bring everything down, even faster than other existing threats to the community/chain.

EDIT: @trimesgi, @ketszy, @jupyoho, and @hiluop have also locked their leech-vulture-vampire teeth into my flesh. Fuck you, cowards!

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danke für die infos. mich hat es auch erwischt und ich wurde von einem dieser bots downgevotet. da freut man sich. besonders als "neuling". immerhin ist es ein bot. wobei mir ehrliche kritik lieber wäre. 
kann mir jemand erklären was die zahl in klammern in meinem wallet unter der rubrik steem power bedeutet? einmal steht da 0.000 steem und dann in klammer 165.153. wofür steempower ist habe ich verstanden nur verstehe ich das in meinem wallet nicht. auch finde ich es komisch, wenn ich manchmal posts upvote, da singt dann der betrag anstatt zu steigen obwohl ich nicht downvote. 
sry. wegen der fragen.

Seems that the problem is old but I've noticed that boys are still working and downvoting random content. It's been two years since that post was written so I assume there is nothing what could be done. I am wondering if muting that profiles would help. Could someone more experienced tell me if it is a good solution or if I shouldn't loose my time to do it? Thank you in advance.