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@colinhoward ·
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1. I greatly enjoy non-fiction books which include the author's perspective, as it provides a deeper layer of story-telling which often makes the topic more captivating and relatable. I don't believe it is self-indulgent to include yourself in your work, especially if it helps propel the story.
2. Useful, relatable, perspective-shifting, honest non-fiction is my favorite kind. I enjoy reading about a person's personal hero's journey of self-discovery and exploration. 

Thanks for prompting this self-reflection and for sharing your process. Your writing resonates with the kind of work I'd like to create.
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@rok-sivante · (edited)
Awesome. *Perfect*. That is pretty much exactly what I needed to hear (read).

Thank you. πŸ™
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@artisticscreech · (edited)
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As to the first question, I think it depends on the subject matter. I may find it dry if a historian spent a lot of time talking about his or her research methods or something. On the other hand, if it is a subject that is personal to you or one which benefits from your commentary then that can be very interesting.

I majored in lit and I spent much more time with fiction but I view all writing as art. For me, the difference between good art and bad art is whether it generates a response in the viewer, reader, or whatever. Personally, I also like it when authors of non-fiction put a lot of effort into the sound and flow of their work and concern themselves with the entertainment of the reader. An interesting subject can be made boring and a boring one interesting depending on how they are presented.
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@morahn · (edited)
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# WHAT TO DO...
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@rok-sivante... I'm liking this right now... The fact that you gave this writing of a thing consideration makes me smile and smile again like I just got promised a hundred billion $$$.

Yes you can *regurgitate* if the present content you're writing about has been treated before, I mean, it's your idea, o one can claim it or take it from you, in fact thats like a wy to connect people to your blog....

For example you're writing about money mismanagement, after writing pages and you experience a block you can come back to the post you wrote yesterday, pick everything **word for word** and direct the readers to the blog making them know it's something you've treated before...

But besides that, if I am to be asked, I'll say, with due respect sir, **START UP SOMETHING FRESH**, I know you can do it, and I'm sure you are going to get to that place that I see you get to... `I try to let people know their weakness so they can work on it and I also encourage them on something they know too well that may help them succeed beyond measure if they don't see it themselves` We all have a selling point, we all have a thing is that will interest the world, what we do and every single person that comes our way acknowledge it as *very good* will be good to the world, *ever since you've been writing on Steemit, I'm not sure anyone has told you your writing sucks, have they?* 

## Challenge
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Sir, I don't see my self in the position of motivating you, because me myself need to be motivated but I'll give it a try because; If I see an hair style that suit you and I decide not to tell you even when you ask because I'm scared or I also don't carry a good hairstyle and you end up barbing a bad one because you can't see how your head looks, then that's very cruel/unfair and stupid of me.

> Nobody in this world can see his head by himself but the shortest man can see it and tell what it looks like if he decides to..

You made mention of something like; **you paused**, didn't know what to do after regurgitating, from what I observe, you seem to be in a state where you don't know what exactly to write that will carry your readers along and that's never a problem for you.
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Every readerhas their specification, when you write anything, the cover page will pull it's reader, those who the book is meant for will definitely go for it, and so it begins, it's not necessary the book will experience a rush when it's first out but with time I can bet it will; because you have a way of carrying you readers along, ***like a seller who maintains/properly manages his customer***

This are challenging times for you but I believe you can overcome it if you take this serious, and like you said; **"Maybe I'm taking this writing too serious more than I should"**.... No you're not sir, making it a concern will fasten the progress and ease you better later in the future, because if you already know what your readers like to read now based on this ***Feedback*** thing you put out, it will forever be a less burden on choosing what to write about, you can also look for the most of your successful write-ups on Steemit to start with...

#### Writing should never be a challenge to you

And about the *'Ayahuasca'* that you made mention of, how can that be of help? I still don't understand because that's the first time I'm seeing the word, don't know if it's a place or a name or.......

## Schedule
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I believe your timing also matters in the progress of writing. What do I mean by that; I understand the fact that you do other things, you cannot only write all day long since you never planned or that before, so you should schedule your self, create a time table for writing, calculate a range of time that you're sure to write a full book, pick the most suitable place for ideas to keep popping in, all this things are things you know, bit you need to be told again to know how serious we want you to get with it...

> I'm sorry to say; writing all your articles on Steemit, without redocumenting them as a book is like a waste... If I may!

Just like you said, *"It's a blog and it will just get swallowed up in between thousands of articles in couple of days/weeks* that means the write up is serving very less purpose, the readers on Steemit are not up to a pinch compared to the readers outside Steemit, so it being published is a very big deal...

## Timing
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Another thing I think you really need to consider is the time, the time at which you publish your book, what the major trend is all about, whether they'll like to read about what you write at that moment in time, being a writer that they are not so familiar with... It needs to be something that every other person will want to have a look at, I mean *everyone*.

I'm sure you can do well of you know what to write about, you can go as far as researching at state of the world, what people like to read about, the best books and caliba of people who read it, what kind of non-fiction people cannot passby without giving a second glance or have it in mind to come get it when the money is there...

> There are different books for different people, but there is this very book every body wants to read.
Which I know you can write, the book everyone wants to read is the type that you write for example astrology, everyone wants to know all about themselves, their flaws, weaknesses, Good etc. Imaging you giving a title to a book and I you say, **'I KNOW YOU BETTER THAN YOU KNOW YOURSELF, FIND OUT HOW'** this may not be the most perfect topic though, was just saying, if a very creative topic like that is used, you'll suddenly find out the copies you printed for sale aren't enough and more are required...

`I think I should drop this whole write up in my blog, may help other people...`

> If it's your way, it's your way and if it's not trust me there is nothing you can do about it...

# To the Feedback question
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 > - Do you personally prefer reading non-fiction books written from a first-person point of view, wherein the author makes many references to his/her own personal subjective experience - or objective, it being written without the perspectives of "I, me, and my?"

I don't really have much to say here, but I can still give a little contribution based on my personal thought...
Choosing whether it's a fictional or non-fictional determines on what you're writing about at first, and secondly as for me, I don't really like the idea of *'I, me, my etc...'* it feels to me like you just want to tell a story about yourself or want to share your past life story with your readers, I'm sorry but that's what I see it has, I think people will like to read a non fiction that's about them, things they'll read and be wondering if the writer wrote the book because of them, like he/she knows them or something. I'm just saying though... I'm not sure about other people opinion, that's why I like to read their feed back too.

 > - What would you list as the qualities and/or defining characteristics of what have made the greatest non-fiction books you've read that have made the greatest impact on/in your life?

= Another very big question, huh... I'll say `Motivation, Inspiration, and Astrology` This three niches have done a lot in my life, because I get to see how easy it is to succeed if I believe, and I have succeeded doing so many things because I believed.

#### Let me tell you a quick story about my self.
I use to be a boxer, I mean is still do boxing not just on a regular basis again... There was a day we had a fight in my state, powered by the government actually... This was last year if I'm not mistaken.

All the opponents I can fight with already have their partner because we fight based on our weights, the only available person for me to fight refused because I knocked him out in the last fight and he took days before he could recover, he disappointed his coach because he thought he could not beat me, but there was a coach who felt I was too sure if myself, he came at me and asked if I mind to challenge him, and I agree, despite the fact I know his weight his more than mine, people wanted to see me fight so it won't be nice if I turned down the coach, after all it's just a *"Fair fight, to entertain the crowd like he called it"* My coach said to me, **"I will understand if this man beat you but do make it count and give your best out there"**...

When it was my turn, I was the last to present... I climbed on the ring with the coach, we smiled at each other, he has seen me fight severally but I've never seen him once, not even when he spar, but I fought him anyway, we both started with the jabs, and light cross, had the same point in round one. Although I was too sure that this man has been in boxing long ago before me, but I still believed that I will not be beaten, I've never had no defeat since I'd been fighting on the ring, I can't allow this man disgrace me in the name of just entertainment, I fought this man based on the way he fought me, didn't try to be too impressive so as not to make silly mistakes and we ended up with **DRAW**  I could have been the winner but he's a coach it will be a slap on his face if they did that despite the fact I gave gave him several bruises on his face and I didn't have any, his punches only landed on my body because he was shorter than I am...

You get what I'm trying to insinuate here, I'm not saying books I've read made me win the fight but somehow the things I've learnt from those book is part of me till today and I won't stop teaching people about it..  

*Thanks for reading...*
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@rok-sivante ·
>I'll say, with due respect sir, START UP SOMETHING FRESH

I agree. After posting this (and talking with my wife about it), that sense crystalized. *Part* of my β€œsuccess” on Steemit has been that I’ve gotten to a point where the writing just comes out in a flowing stream - one shot, straight through, no edits, done. The whole process of going back through old works, collecting it, thinking about the tedious task of going through *everything* to pick out pieces, then rearrange and edit… it all feels SO heavy, discouraging and depressing - versus the lightness and inspiration of writing fresh. That right there is probably clear guidance enough.

>ever since you've been writing on Steemit, I'm not sure anyone has told you your writing sucks, have they?

There was **ONE.** But he was a highly arrogant troll that had no idea what he was fucking talking about, thus discredited his opinion. Lol.


>when you write anything, the cover page will pull it's reader, those who the book is meant for will definitely go for it,

I like this perspective.

>And about the 'Ayahuasca' that you made mention of, how can that be of help? I still don't understand because that's the first time I'm seeing the word, don't know if it's a place or a name or.......

mmm… you might be interested to read [this story from my last experience](https://steemit.com/ayahuasca/@rok-sivante/how-ayahuasca-changed-my-life-and-gave-me-the-balls-to-do-the-craziest-most-courageous-romantic-thing-of-my-life) in which you may find your answer. ☺️


…

All-in-all, what amazing feedback!

Great points for contemplation.

Thank you. πŸ˜‡πŸ™
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@morahn ·
You're welcome sir... And about the guy that said your writing sucks, he must have been drunk or something. As for me, I'll say you have this kind of exceptional writing skill, but I cannot always agree with every word you say, *because heads are not the same, and we see things differently*, if I don't agree with a point, I'll proof why i disagree which I've always been doing, instead of saying all sorts of rubbish... 

I'll check out that post right away to know more about the **Ayahuasca** thing. Trust me I can be very inquisitive... Haha...

*Keep up with the good work sir..*
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@morahn ·
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What a big *'WOW'*.
The *WOW* so big my mouth cannot contain it...
I'll say @rok-sivante you're a very lucky man. I just finished reading the Ayahuasca experience and I was wowed... I think with the look of things, **Nia** was specifically created for you, you guys were made for each other, and I believe she worth's you.

### Let me pick it from the beginning
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In one sentence, I can say Ayahuasca was the first place you met the ***"Stunning Smart awesome Indonesian goddess"*** that turns out to be **NIA**, I wonder what blowout could have seperated you at first, but what matters anyway is that you ended up together...

And for that her *friend* which I don't seem to know her name, I think she played a very smart role in texting you messages playing the role of *Nia*, if she wasn't there, you guys may probably not end up together... And it was obvious you were somehow meant for each other because of the **Law of attraction** - both of you popping into each other's mind.

### Back to Ayahuasca
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First of all, I want to make I wish; **I so want to experience the Ayahuasca thing, especially the Kambo night** (Non-psychedelic), I feel it's calling me already and I seem to be ready for it... Lol, this may seem like a joke but I sincerely mean it.

Just like you said; *"No words to describe Ayahuasca, it's an expansion of the heart, mind and spirit"*, I guess that's why you asked me to go read the post for myself despite it's 2years old already...

> And while the initial journey she takes you on may last only a few hours, the grandmotherly-love she'll immerse you in is only the beginning of amazing new journeys your prior self could only dream of.

> Ayahuasca is not for everyone.

> But for those whom she calls - and for those who heed that call - life will be changed forever. For the better... πŸ™

This seem to be your little definition for Ayahuasca, and I seem to be ready, I can already hear the call loud and clear as I am typing this, and I'm so anxious right now....

You also said, *"It can sometimes be amazingly mind blowing'*, I so want to experience that, and *"Can sometimes be gut-wrentching, challenging & horrifying for uneventful"* this seems a bit discouraging but I look forward to that too....

##### I THINK AYAHUASCA IS TRULY NEEDED FOR YOU ONCE AGAIN, IT'LL HELP YOU CLEAR YOUR MIND AND SPIRIT AGAIN AND GET YOU READY FOR THE NEW STEP YOU'RE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON (BOOKS).πŸ‹οΈ
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*Good luck sir.* 

You so have a way with words, and I like the saying; **Love Reigns Supreme**
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@empress-eremmy ·
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Non fiction books are quite relatable and provide a deeper meaning than most genres. From a philosophical standpoint, they are most enjoyable and I see no reason why you cannot share your perspective with us using them. 

I don't have a particular preference, just depends on what am looking for at that time - entertainment or reflection
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<div class=text-justify>okay, this might be an important part of a person's life, where we have to choose and really determine, steemit and write books, which will be better in life. Sometimes we find it difficult to explain what is the material of choice at this time, but all the choices that are made are one of the best minds at the time. In fact, sometimes we don't know which one will determine our next life, yes, even no one is able to predict the situation of a person for tomorrow, unless it's just a coincidence. Starting to compose words from an idea is the best thing, moreover we have a million ideas that will be compressed into great works that will be watched by many people. This is amazing, and even extraordinary for a choice. Not for fame, we don't need to be known by many people, but we need to help a lot of people from the work we share, however small it is that is important to be useful, at least we can make the reader smile from some of the ideas we have.


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1. Personally I prefer reading non-fiction books written directly from the author's point of view, of course with the language he has, using satirical language, and many use parable language which does not directly reveal the actual content of the writing, because it will invite a number of signs ask for the next article.

2. As a quality, nonfiction books are able to awaken a reader from the roar of adversity, even this reading is able to move my person to write. It was incredible.

Thank you for this brother @rok-sivante</div>
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@morahn ·
What a great feedback, we don't know what will be in the future and we can't tell what coincidence will pop out of what... Just like you said, *"an idea can be compressed into words and made as a book, and you don't need to be known by the whole world, you just need to help a lot of people"*. This is a very nice one from you @pojan...
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@pojan ·
waaw, thank you for your response, I'm glad to see you interact with my comments. @morahn
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@hash-tag ·
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Well.... It is indeed a transition phase in your life.   I know some of the most valuable artist here who are just not able to cross $2 and then I see some of the shit post backed by the community. Indeed, these blogs are going to be lost in the matter of few days and books remain forever. I encourage your idea of writing a book.

 Now, Let's explore what to write on....
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In the last post you were talking about learning by yourself and that is the most influential sentence. No matter how well a book is written, it's success depends on various factors. Once you decide to write a book you have to keep  publishing consistently irrespective of the fact that it is appreciated or not. You have to keep on experimenting with your choices and see which choice is suitable for an audience and you. It's a never ending process. Yes, it is a transition phase and I encourage you to write on a topic that you care the most and if it is the same subject that readers want to read, your book is a hit. 
I would like to go through some of your history posts  and see where I was influenced the most, it might help you in knowing the reader's perspective and better choose a subject of your book. 
Keep experimenting ....

> If there's a book that you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it."
--Toni Morrison
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@morahn ·
You gave a very good reply @hash-tag, knowing what your readers are interested in is very important before starting up a book, if he knows what they like to read, he'll somehow connect it with what he likes to write about. Then trust me, the book will definitely be a hit just like you said... *Very good suggestion*
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@steemflow ·
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Something new from @rok-sivante i never knew the writer behind a great musician. Reading the writers prospective is going to be new experience...i too read some books mostly while travelling..
- love to read non fiction stories, so that to withstand myself in certain situation . Something direct from author help you to relate with the situation.

- I mostly read from Indian author and they keep the readers interested with some positive approach be it humour or suspence they like the way depicts the scenarios.

I too wanted to write something. I have a good acxount of experince and fascinated story. Would write some day. 

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@talkingwiseshit ·
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1.Subjective Non-fiction books

2. That's a harder question to answer but anyway:

- I need to feel that the author is being 100% honest
- I need to know that the author knows what he is talking about
- A book that once I'm done reading it, after a week I still go back and think about it
- Easy to read
- Inspiring
- Creative. Something that makes me go like 'WOW, I've never read anything like this before'.

Good luck fellow steemit user
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@morahn ·
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Nice...
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@talkingwiseshit ·
Lol, OK
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@zerokun ·
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1. I prefer the perspective of the "I, me, and my" because sounds more perosnal 

2. When the characters are deep and profund with a good background.
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@ankapolo · (edited)
No book is in vain if it ever made me laugh or cry. 

Personally i like fiction, because of the sheer imagination and the incredibly interesting characters in it... fiction can be much more memorable because of the places it takes you to... and sometimes it can be a very effective way to insert philosophy: "this is what this character is thinking, and here is what made them think this way..." exaggeration can be a fun game... 

So i guess, if i were you, I'd ask myself what is the goal of your book? 

Also i think that the best thing to do, rather than to just start writing  is to come up with a structure: chapters, sub-chapters, bullet points... this will give you an idea how big this book is going to be... 

And then lastly, i'd look at some authors that put out books once a year or even more often and read them to see what you're up against... not even so much on the "Matter" of the book, but how it was approached from a writer's perspective...

I hope this helps, brake a quill! 

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@chireerocks ·
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@rok-sivante, There is an line as **Life is an book**. So in my opinion when we want to read an book then we find **Journey of ups and downs, happiest moments, breakdown aspects, surprises, learning moments and personal perceptions towards life**. And i strongly believe that in this aspect first of all ask yourself, which point inspired you to write this book then for sure, that one point will encourage to write other aspects too.

And here, i want to give one suggestion as, you write in a way that, you are narrating your life to your innerself, means you have to remember all those moments which really move you till this date.

And i believe that **Fiction** story just push us towards the imagination but when you write what happend in your journey no matter who will read it and where will read it, whenever people want references then they can redirect towards your book because your book is based upon the true **instances** and in my opinion they will not going to redirect towards the fiction because it's an imagination.

And in my opinion if you write something, it should give the long lasting effect means there would be some moments when we match the situations with the words which we read somewhere, so whatever we are writing they should connect in time to time in practical like and in my opinion in that way, an book's value get extended and it becomes companion at times.

So, in my opinion write out all emotions whatever you've had in life and in this you can add one more **VERSION** as how you want to see your journey in future, because documented future goals can light up that **Enthusiastic** aspect towards our life.

Wishing you an great day and stay blessed. πŸ™‚
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@ravenking23 · (edited)
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1. The subjective element of the authors own thought and inner growth needs to be somewhat reflected in the book to interest me personally. But I have read many fiction books that were utterly non-fiction to me cause the deeper philosophical/spiritual elements of his characters reflect truths and ideas that belong to his own experience and growth. 

2.The only non-fiction books I can truly remember impacting me was Many P Halls-Secret Teachings of All Ages, basically research into occult and esoteric practices and mans inner development, and carl jungs red book. Otherwise books that impacted me the most have been fiction such as Terry Pratchetts Discworld Novels. Neil Gaiman Sandman Comics,(very profound), paulo coelho the alchemist, alejandro jodorowsky the incal and the technopriests (both comics). 

I can't seem to seperate fiction too much from non+fiction. Often times even more personal and deep a fiction novel, than a non-fiction one. You lay bare your inner worlds in fiction :)

I did publish through blurb 2 years ago a compilation of all my poems and short texts I had collected over the years from age 18 until 25. Very turbulent times, but life thankfully only kicks our ass so that we may grow. But at that time I was motivated and inspired to do it, I didn't envision being a perfectionist about it either, goal was just to have it out there so perhaps someone might benefit from something they read in it.  Handed out about 100 free copies at the time  from my saved money, I was more inspired to share it than to sell it. 

If I were you I would do what I feel most inspired and passionate about. And you know best what that is, the end result of a book done with such energy is going to be the most authentic and inspiring. :)
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@rok-sivante ·
LOL...

just left the other comment, referencing Manly P. Hall. Then *this.*

*Classic.*

And great feedback. Thank you. πŸ™
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