Lately there has been discussion around SBD which should be a token pegged to US dollar. The peg hasn't been holding very well. The situation isn't catastrophic because the error has been in the upper side (SBD is worth more than one dollar), but the system is still broken, nonetheless. Root cause is the fact that the amount of SBD doesn't change according to the supply and demand of the markets. There has been a lot more demand for SBD so the price has gone way too much up. If the Steem blockchain can't print more SBD when there is more demand, the peg won't hold. But if the blockchain starts to print more SBD, there is a systemic risk. If the price of steem goes down, the liability for backing the SBD token will be much bigger. The usecase for a stable cryptocurrency is to help normal people to use it as a currency. Most people aren't interested in using very volatile currency in daily activities. SBD was supposed to help with this. But so far we haven't seen market places or any other real usecases for SBD although it has been existed for more than a year. So we have two facts that speak against SBD: it can't hold the peg, and pretty much nobody is using it for what is was created for. And here his a third. A while ago @dwinblood wondered [where have some of the anarchism/voluntarism celebrities gone](https://steemit.com/vountaryism/@dwinblood/where-have-the-steemit-anarchism-voluntaryism-celebrities-gone). It seems that they were motivated mostly by money, so when the price of steem went down, they didn't find writing here profitable enough anymore. The dollar sum indicating how much a post has earned goes down when the price of steem goes down. I think we have now pretty good evidence that when users see dollars, they think in dollars. They forget that they earn also steem tokens which will become more valuable if the demand goes back up someday. The funny thing is, those successful authors who left the platform when the price went down, would have multiplied the value of their earnings if they had stayed and taken their rewards in SP instead of SBD. But they didn't do so. Why? Because the dollar amount in the posts is so misleading. It's depressing to see it go down. The solution is simple: Ditch the SBD and start paying rewards only with steem and SP. When there is no dollar amount in the posts but steem amount instead, it doesn't change everyday depending on volatility of the price. What you see and get is the amount of steem that you are rewarded by the upvotes. That is more accurate showing you if you have been successful because you write so well. Currently authors can have a fake feeling of success just because they wrote their piece when the price of steem was high which made the dollar amount big. Now you could be developing as writer and become more successful in here, but you don't really see and feel that because your rewards depend more on the price of steem than your writing abilities and popularity. When users start to think in "reward points" (in this case steem tokens) rather than dollars they will become much more engaged. They don't get discouraged just because cryptocurrency markets happened to go down when they wrote a few good posts. Because I don't see any good reasons to have stable cryptocurrency on this platform, I suggest we remove it. It will make the user experience better, remove unnecessary systemic risk and make the system overall simpler.
post_id | 3,132,836 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it |
category | sbd |
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created | 2017-05-28 06:05:42 |
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It's settling down. I don't think this last aberration is proof that it's a bad idea.
post_id | 3,132,976 |
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author | jacobtothe |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t061348756z |
category | sbd |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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author_curate_reward | "" |
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
wingz | 0 | 703,608,261 | 5% | ||
pangur-ban | 0 | 157,193,094 | 5% | ||
bacchist | 0 | 5,136,425,274 | 5% | ||
demotruk | 0 | 18,998,225,694 | 1% | ||
mynameisbrian | 0 | 5,764,968,874 | 5% | ||
thylbom | 0 | 2,123,829,786 | 5% | ||
greymass | 0 | 2,032,002,644 | 5% | ||
dirty.hera | 0 | 58,181,325 | 5% | ||
ats-david | 0 | 200,062,911,454 | 5% | ||
ebargains | 0 | 2,278,520,239 | 5% | ||
littlescribe | 0 | 1,156,115,047 | 5% | ||
burnin | 0 | 1,608,715,334 | 5% | ||
bestoftherest | 0 | 258,340,878 | 5% | ||
ninkhisibir | 0 | 404,041,223 | 5% | ||
reisman | 0 | 666,853,142 | 4% | ||
irawandedy | 0 | 350,764,019 | 5% | ||
writingamigo | 0 | 384,973,889 | 5% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 64,543,860 | 5% | ||
lukinsawyer | 0 | 117,439,748 | 5% | ||
tonylondon | 0 | 53,908,221 | 5% | ||
justinashby | 0 | 400,019,109 | 5% | ||
evildeathcore | 0 | 414,946,755 | 5% | ||
steemmaster | 0 | 89,490,339 | 5% | ||
shellyduncan | 0 | 303,925,728 | 5% |
It's a proof that the pegging mechanism doesn't work.
post_id | 3,133,728 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-jacobtothe-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065456155z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:54:57 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:54:57 |
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children | 3 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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because we didn't had any mechanism for pushing price down. We just need to add what timcliff proposed, and thats it.
post_id | 3,133,875 |
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author | noisy |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-jacobtothe-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070126406z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:01:27 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:01:27 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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Market demand trumped price controls. What a surprise. But that demand bubble is tapering off rapidly. I do like the volatility mitigation concept even if it doesn't entirely work as planned.
post_id | 3,133,992 |
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author | jacobtothe |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-jacobtothe-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070642741z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:06:45 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:06:45 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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A person that claims to be an Anarchist and is around for only the money is a fucking idiot and never was an Anarchist to begin with.
post_id | 3,133,152 |
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author | danielownsall |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t062346056z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:23:48 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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I got an better idea, Why not take fee when there is SBD inter account transfer? That way Steem holders can get benefit from SBD and Steem community can issue more SBD!
post_id | 3,133,158 |
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author | publicworker |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t062358207z |
category | sbd |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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sidwrites | 0 | 693,159,091 | 100% |
I don't see how that will affect the amount of SBD existing. It doesn't offer a mechanism to balance supply and demand, although it might have a little effect if the demand for SBD goes down because people are discouraged to use it.
post_id | 3,133,778 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-publicworker-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065710228z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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Sweet. This is a great idea!
post_id | 3,135,020 |
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author | sidwrites |
permlink | re-publicworker-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t080337445z |
category | sbd |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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It's fine. For now we can give it some time to correct itself naturally, now that there has been a constant supply for a bit. If it still trades high, a mechanism like the one @timcliff made a post about could be an option. For the reasons why it should be kept, I left a handful of comments in this post: https://steemit.com/ned/@krnel/ned-on-sbd-does-the-community-want-to-continue-to-be-paid-out-in-steem-dollars
post_id | 3,133,199 |
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author | pfunk |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t062531631z |
category | sbd |
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created | 2017-05-28 06:25:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:27:48 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
pfunk | 0 | 1,108,875,608,752 | 70% | ||
wingz | 0 | 11,726,804,355 | 100% | ||
pangur-ban | 0 | 235,789,641 | 10% | ||
bacchist | 0 | 85,616,746,118 | 100% | ||
ausbitbank | 0 | 418,661,376,203 | 10% | ||
krystle | 0 | 4,160,018,937 | 10% | ||
demotruk | 0 | 18,998,225,694 | 1% | ||
mynameisbrian | 0 | 9,608,301,147 | 10% | ||
thylbom | 0 | 3,539,716,310 | 10% | ||
greymass | 0 | 3,386,671,073 | 10% | ||
dirty.hera | 0 | 116,362,651 | 10% | ||
timcliff | 0 | 182,635,762,461 | 100% | ||
thisisbenbrick | 0 | 8,955,267,294 | 100% | ||
bledarus | 0 | 561,737,133 | 100% | ||
solarguy | 0 | 18,935,661,585 | 100% | ||
ats-david | 0 | 333,467,388,386 | 10% | ||
the-ego-is-you | 0 | 5,365,166,442 | 100% | ||
ebargains | 0 | 3,418,525,259 | 10% | ||
littlescribe | 0 | 1,926,858,412 | 10% | ||
burnin | 0 | 2,413,073,001 | 10% | ||
bestoftherest | 0 | 4,219,567,674 | 100% | ||
ninkhisibir | 0 | 606,061,835 | 10% | ||
thejohalfiles | 0 | 0 | 0% | ||
reisman | 0 | 1,333,706,285 | 8% | ||
irawandedy | 0 | 701,600,579 | 10% | ||
writingamigo | 0 | 641,623,148 | 10% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 64,543,860 | 10% | ||
heymattsokol | 0 | 16,713,982,831 | 100% | ||
lukinsawyer | 0 | 117,441,198 | 10% | ||
tonylondon | 0 | 107,816,442 | 10% | ||
justinashby | 0 | 400,025,534 | 10% | ||
evildeathcore | 0 | 418,618,532 | 10% | ||
mraldo | 0 | 1,303,280,357 | 100% | ||
bosman | 0 | 1,518,997,218 | 100% | ||
lautenglye | 0 | 305,117,543 | 100% | ||
shellyduncan | 0 | 506,542,880 | 10% |
I've noticed that it's movements are kinda correlated with bitcoin's movements. If it keeps this correlation, a very large and fast drop in bitcoin's value could mean a fast drop in sdb value, which could damage the peg, and harmfully affect the ecosystem. Of course, this analysis could be inaccurate, as steem's price and the entire crypto currency market's market cap are also correlated in the same way, so it might be connected to other price movements. But it still raises the same fear, could a sharp drop in another currency cause a sharp drop in SBD value, damaging the peg, and thus the site as a whole? What could be done to mitigate such connections in the future?
post_id | 3,133,552 |
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author | bluesmokes |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t064535232z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:45:33 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:45:33 |
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children | 2 |
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last_payout | 2017-06-04 06:45:33 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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>I've noticed that it's movements are kinda correlated with bitcoin's movements. Are you talking in terms of USD value or BTC value? Its price in BTC is meant to inversely correlate with BTC's USD value. >If it keeps this correlation, a very large and fast drop in bitcoin's value could mean a fast drop in sdb value The SBD is a token that can be converted (with a 3.5 day delay) to roughly $1 worth of STEEM. It is this guarantee floor that keeps SBD pegged from below. The theory of pegging from above comes from emission of SBD. If over time it's observed that the pegging pressure from above is inadequate, then we can address that with a limited STEEM->SBD conversion option. But for now, because of the botched reward pool migration in HF17/18 happening concurrently with irregular market conditions, the recent experience with SBD price isn't enough to say "let's kill SBD." We're on track to it normalizing.
post_id | 3,133,642 |
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author | pfunk |
permlink | re-bluesmokes-re-pfunk-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065023200z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:50:36 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:54:30 |
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children | 1 |
net_rshares | 1,515,365,926 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
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bluesmokes | 0 | 1,515,365,926 | 100% |
I doesn't correct itself naturally because the pegging mechanism doesn't work. It lacks a proper feedback loop to print more SBD according to the demand. SBD demand doesn't have any direct feedback mechanism to encourage more supply. Total SBD amount is directly linked to the price of steem. To fix the mechanism, it should be directly linked to the supply and demand of SBD. That's the way to achieve price stability.
post_id | 3,133,905 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070227447z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:02:27 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:02:27 |
depth | 2 |
children | 11 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:02:27 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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A major factor of why SBDs ended up losing their peg upwards is because the supply was severely restricted for over a month thanks to the poorly implemented transition of the reward pool. That context should not be ignored in the recent price history of the SBD. Now that supply has returned, we are seeing the value of SBD come down closer and closer to where it's meant to be. Have patience :)
post_id | 3,134,074 |
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author | pfunk |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-pfunk-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t071113358z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:11:24 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:11:24 |
depth | 3 |
children | 10 |
net_rshares | 350,341,692,645 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:11:24 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.449 SBD |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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ausbitbank | 0 | 83,732,275,240 | 1% | ||
krystle | 0 | 832,003,787 | 1% | ||
thejohalfiles | 0 | 265,777,413,618 | 1% |
Right on, @timcliff's idea is perfect IMO. It's an elegant solution that doesn't require any huge changes.
post_id | 3,143,642 |
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author | heymattsokol |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t151929395z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "users": ["timcliff"], "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 15:19:30 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 15:19:30 |
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You may be right that we don't need the SBDs. However, I don't think there is a need to ditch SBDs if the only reason is to display the rewards in STEEM. I think that changing the display of rewards to STEEMs may be done now, without the need to ditch SBDs at the same time..
post_id | 3,133,276 |
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author | vcelier |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t063116910z |
category | sbd |
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created | 2017-05-28 06:31:15 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:31:15 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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mraldo | 0 | 1,333,589,202 | 100% |
Displaying in dollars is a better way of fulfilling Steem's mission, which is to get every day people onboard and using a blockchain. Grandma doesn't care what STEEM is and has no association with it being anything of value. $ = dollar, money, value, etc.
post_id | 3,133,462 |
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author | pfunk |
permlink | re-vcelier-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t064111065z |
category | sbd |
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created | 2017-05-28 06:41:21 |
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jasonstaggers | 0 | 54,480,724,980 | 100% | ||
solarguy | 0 | 18,935,661,585 | 100% | ||
dragosroua | 0 | 54,894,330,272 | 100% | ||
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vcelier | 0 | 688,196,182,264 | 100% | ||
mraldo | 0 | 1,303,280,357 | 100% |
Sure. I am not saying that we SHOULD ditch the SBD. What I am saying is that there are two separate issues. IF we were to ditch the SBDs, the display for reward $190.48 could be changed to: 191.03 STEEM ~ $190.48 In fact we could do that now.
post_id | 3,133,870 |
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author | vcelier |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-vcelier-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070111844z |
category | sbd |
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created | 2017-05-28 07:01:12 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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In all honesty I don't think Grandma is ever getting on this site. I have to explain from letter A what Bitcoin is to multiple people a day. I am SHOCKED to see how many people have never even heard the word. Circling back to Steem, the difference between Steem, SP, and SBD is highly confusing at the start and I've helped build a few websites. Grandma has no chance. I think I change to showing Steem for value would actually be an improvement. We can only hope Bitcoin continues to have market penetration to pique individuals interest in dipping a toe in other crypto or platforms.
post_id | 3,133,936 |
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author | coinhawk |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-vcelier-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070358717z |
category | sbd |
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created | 2017-05-28 07:03:57 |
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I disagree with this. By focusing on making money we are getting lots of low quality users. People who just want to get rich quick and do not care about the platform itself or the community. They will leave when they see their rewards going down, just like what has happened. I think it has been really bad move marketing-wise. We can't have majority of the people, like grandmas, until we have enough early adopters. To get more early adopters we need to have high-quality community.
post_id | 3,134,029 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-vcelier-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070906869z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:09:06 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:09:06 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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I don't think so. Displaying dollar can be misunderstood, as I suggested [here](https://github.com/steemit/condenser/issues/992): > A large portion of socio-psychological hardship in Steemit has come from reward distribution. People sometimes compare much smaller payouts than the bright past in July when trending posts easily got over $1000 (SBD). However, as matter of a fact, rewards in STEEM has not changed muchand what has changed is STEEM price denominated in SBD. > STEEM is a share of Steem blockchain, and can be considered as a reward point in Steem ecosystem, like Karma of Reddit or Marking of Poloniex. If we can make people to think the reward as a perk, at the same time make them free from money value, Steemit would be more enjoyable and less stressful.
post_id | 3,134,124 |
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author | clayop |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-vcelier-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t071321904z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "links": ["https://github.com/steemit/condenser/issues/992"], "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:13:24 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:13:24 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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samupaha | 0 | 267,004,676,800 | 50% |
Yes. I like seeing dollar Signs!
post_id | 3,135,475 |
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author | solarguy |
permlink | re-pfunk-re-vcelier-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t082351122z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 08:28:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 08:28:42 |
depth | 3 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 18,935,661,585 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 08:28:42 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
solarguy | 0 | 18,935,661,585 | 100% |
Even if we change the display currency, the problem will still exist if users are paid with SBD.
post_id | 3,133,953 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-vcelier-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070445594z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:04:45 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:04:45 |
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children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:04:45 |
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total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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Why you are saying SBD is broken? First we had a triple in price of steem in satoshi and at the same time a double of price in Bitcoin. Second we had less payout. So SBD had a problem keeping up in the biggest bubble (so far lol) of this year. Yes, that is not good. But is SBD broken? At the moment it is at 1.36$ - 1/3 down from the 2$ it was. Wait a week or maybe 2 more and it will be at 1$ if the exchange prices are stable now. >When users start to think in "reward points" (in this case steem tokens) rather than dollars they will become much more engaged. That is your very subjective interpretation that I very subjectively call Bullshit.
post_id | 3,133,300 |
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author | lennstar |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t063235466z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:32:36 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:32:36 |
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children | 1 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 06:32:36 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
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author_reputation | 38,213,975,622,361 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
> Why you are saying SBD is broken? SBD is price stable currency. If the price doesn't stay stable, the pegging mechanism is broken. It should work in most situations, including big changes in general cryptomarkets.
post_id | 3,134,212 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-lennstar-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t071841532z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:18:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:18:42 |
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children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:18:42 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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How harmful it would be for the community if SBD will get removed?
post_id | 3,133,367 |
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author | pal |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t063615258z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:36:15 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:36:15 |
depth | 1 |
children | 8 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 06:36:15 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 66 |
author_reputation | 12,208,622,540,590 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
there are people which keep SBD, because SBD was a promise for them. How you would like to remove SBD? convert everything for STEEM? This can be harmful for them! Also... removing SBD would be like giving up an idea of having stable cryptocurrency, which is perfect for merchants.
post_id | 3,133,930 |
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author | noisy |
permlink | re-pal-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070342050z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:03:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:03:42 |
depth | 2 |
children | 5 |
net_rshares | 7,634,246,782 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:03:42 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 281 |
author_reputation | 54,116,952,654,646 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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pal | 0 | 7,634,246,782 | 2% |
SBD is a derivative token that promises to be worth of one US dollar in steems. So if we give those steems to users who own SBD, it is totally fair. > Also... removing SBD would be like giving up an idea of having stable cryptocurrency, which is perfect for merchants. So far the adoption by merchants has been pretty much non-existent.
post_id | 3,135,977 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-noisy-re-pal-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t085651059z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 08:56:51 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 08:56:51 |
depth | 3 |
children | 4 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 08:56:51 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 338 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
I don't see much downsides. SBD doesn't have any real world usage.
post_id | 3,134,233 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-pal-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t072023946z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:20:24 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:20:24 |
depth | 2 |
children | 1 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:20:24 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 66 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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That is true even for Bitcoin, if you ignore the mafia uasge.
post_id | 3,136,349 |
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author | lennstar |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-pal-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t092219266z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:22:18 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:22:18 |
depth | 3 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:22:18 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 61 |
author_reputation | 38,213,975,622,361 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
Myself, I worry that it's still to early to remove SBD. It got us this far... and we're not out of the woods yet. SBD is meant to be approximately a $1.00 worth of steem, so it could be used like a currency for purchases like how Bitcoin is used on e-commerce sites. (Yes I know, SBD has been bouncing around and isn't always $1.00 -- but it really should be an average of $1.00 over 7 days I think) I like the idea of SBD. I just wish it would stay near $1.00 of steem so we can get more e-commerce sites accepting something (like SBD) in crypto that is always worth approximately $1.00 USD If STEEM itself jumps around in price too much, it gets confusing. We really should have SBD as a normal "peg" that tracks the US Dollar... it brings stability to STEEM in certain ways. I don't know, let's ask Dan, Ned, and whomever was here during the initial days of when SBD was coded into the system if it is time to remove it.
post_id | 3,133,510 |
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author | intelliguy |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t064351219z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:43:54 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:44:33 |
depth | 1 |
children | 4 |
net_rshares | 24,167,787,219 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 06:43:54 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.036 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 931 |
author_reputation | 62,293,745,530,431 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
intelliguy | 0 | 24,167,787,219 | 100% |
> I like the idea of SBD. I just wish it would stay near $1.00 of steem so we can get more e-commerce sites accepting something (like SBD) in crypto that is always worth approximately $1.00 USD This is the reason why I've been supporting SBD so far. But my opinion has changed because I haven't seen any real effort to make SBD useful in any commercial markets.
post_id | 3,134,267 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-intelliguy-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t072242848z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:22:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:22:42 |
depth | 2 |
children | 3 |
net_rshares | 22,717,719,986 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:22:42 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.033 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.001 SBD |
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body_length | 362 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
intelliguy | 0 | 22,717,719,986 | 100% |
Oh it's very early. By the time people start thinking we need this.... people are already coding it.... and that's probably happening right now. I fully expect by the end of this year, you should be able to transfer SBD to buy yourself something on the internet quite easily without having to sell for Bitcoin and then buy it. Bitcoin's network is delayed, saturated, requires you to convert into/out of a centralized exchange from STEEM People would just rather send SBD to a STEEM USER and have their purchase approved. STEEM users are not cryptocurrency geeks. They are everyday people. These everyday people don't want to learn how to convert to bitcoin to spend their earnings. Let them use SBD and you've got a huge crowd of buyers.. :) Just wait for it... it's coming...
post_id | 3,134,331 |
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author | intelliguy |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-intelliguy-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t072611070z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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intelliguy | 0 | 23,201,075,731 | 100% |
So there has been huge demand for our derivative token in recent months, but it's a problem because of a display issue which we could easily fix on the front end? The extra purchasing power of the SBD is more a benefit than a problem. The display and perception problems can be tackled on the front end before you eliminate one of the central premises of the system. The high price is evidence of *high demand* for the product. It would be shooting ourselves in the foot to eliminate a high demand token from the system.
post_id | 3,133,608 |
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author | demotruk |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t064825108z |
category | sbd |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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author_curate_reward | "" |
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pal | 0 | 7,615,653,509 | 1% | ||
wingz | 0 | 703,608,261 | 5% | ||
pangur-ban | 0 | 157,193,094 | 5% | ||
lichtblick | 0 | 5,027,339,988 | 1% | ||
mynameisbrian | 0 | 5,764,980,688 | 5% | ||
thylbom | 0 | 2,123,829,786 | 5% | ||
greymass | 0 | 2,032,002,644 | 5% | ||
dirty.hera | 0 | 58,181,325 | 5% | ||
bledarus | 0 | 561,737,133 | 100% | ||
ats-david | 0 | 200,080,433,031 | 5% | ||
ebargains | 0 | 2,279,016,839 | 5% | ||
littlescribe | 0 | 1,156,115,047 | 5% | ||
burnin | 0 | 1,608,715,334 | 5% | ||
bestoftherest | 0 | 258,340,878 | 5% | ||
ninkhisibir | 0 | 404,041,223 | 5% | ||
reisman | 0 | 666,853,142 | 4% | ||
irawandedy | 0 | 350,800,289 | 5% | ||
writingamigo | 0 | 384,973,889 | 5% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 64,543,860 | 5% | ||
lukinsawyer | 0 | 117,441,198 | 5% | ||
tonylondon | 0 | 53,908,221 | 5% | ||
justinashby | 0 | 400,025,534 | 5% | ||
evildeathcore | 0 | 418,618,532 | 5% | ||
shellyduncan | 0 | 303,925,728 | 5% |
> The high price is evidence of high demand for the product. Quite right.
post_id | 3,133,699 |
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author | pal |
permlink | re-demotruk-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065332817z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:53:33 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:53:33 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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> So there has been huge demand for our derivative token in recent months, but it's a problem because of a display issue which we could easily fix on the front end? These are two different problems that could be fixed by removing the SBD. I generally support simple solutions that affect more than one problem. > The extra purchasing power of the SBD is more a benefit than a problem. I agree that the brokeness of SBD hasn't been catastrophic (so far), but it's still a problem. If there is no price stability, SBD won't ever going to be used in commercial markets. It will stay only in the hands of cryptocurrency speculators. And our users would have benefited more if they were paid with steem instead of SBD. With SBD they made only modest profits, with steem they would have multiplied the value of their earnings. > The high price is evidence of high demand for the product. Yeah, there is high demand. But doesn't mean we should be serving that market. By keeping the system simple we can focus on the most important things. It's a common mistake for startups to focus too much for anything that seems to get some traction and forget the fundamentals of their business. The derivate markets are not and shouldn't be a focus of Steem.
post_id | 3,134,488 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-demotruk-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t073430806z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:34:30 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:34:30 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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Indeed. It makes sense that an author's worth will be evaluated both by their ability and long term investment. Steem Power does exactly that. I also think that there should be a choice (perhaps a mini exchange widget within the wallet widget) where the user turns their Steem into SDB.
post_id | 3,133,649 |
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author | kyriacos |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065106770z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:51:09 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:51:09 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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clayop | 0 | 869,800,764,707 | 100% |
Hm... Guys. If there is choice between @timcliff's proposal of fixing the SBD peg by making it more complex and removing SBD interely, then I'll choose get rid of SBD, instead of adding additional risks for platform. Luckily, we don't have to choose, so **let it be the status quo**.
post_id | 3,133,661 |
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author | pal |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065156102z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "users": ["timcliff"], "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:51:57 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:51:57 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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demotruk | 0 | 285,002,540,524 | 30% |
That is true!
post_id | 3,133,830 |
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author | owura |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065958914z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:59:09 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:59:09 |
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children | 0 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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This should be implemented: https://steemit.com/sbd/@timcliff/saving-sbd-proposal-to-restore-the-usd1-usd-usd1-sbd-peg and everything will be ok again.
post_id | 3,133,838 |
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author | noisy |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t065933861z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "links": ["https://steemit.com/sbd/@timcliff/saving-sbd-proposal-to-restore-the-usd1-usd-usd1-sbd-peg"], "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 06:59:36 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 06:59:36 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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If we are going to make big change to fix the system, why not rewrite it completely? I think the BTS system is much better because it removes all systemic risk from the blockchain. So if we are going to keep a price stable currency on this platform, why not copy it from Bitshares?
post_id | 3,136,035 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-noisy-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t090040191z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:00:39 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:00:39 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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BTS system is too complicated! And.. there was never a successful peg. BitUSD was always more expansive than USD.
post_id | 3,136,063 |
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author | noisy |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-noisy-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t090227505z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:02:27 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:02:27 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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I am kind agree with you. The only benefit of SBD is flooring rewards for authors. But its cost is quite bigger (i.e. publishing price feed, adjusting witness policy, additional selling pressure when STEEM price is going down, etc.). By removing SBD, we can remove large proportion of complexity. Pegged asset sounds sweet. But in fact, it is basically a community money as well as STEEM. For instance, ETH person never uses SBD even though 1 SBD perfectly equals to $1, while Steemian is willing to use both SBD and STEEM as a payment method. Volatility is less important than belief in the platform.
post_id | 3,133,980 |
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author | clayop |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070601210z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:06:03 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:06:03 |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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samupaha | 0 | 53,400,935,360 | 10% | ||
puffin | 0 | 9,177,272,642 | 100% |
Yeah, that is also a good point.
post_id | 3,136,043 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-clayop-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t090108667z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:01:09 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:01:09 |
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children | 0 |
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last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:01:09 |
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author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
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Yes, pegging currencies represent costs. A good example for this in the fx world- is the Swiss National Bank's move to remove the EUR/CHF floor of 1,2 in Jan. 2015, which they have supported before in order to support their economy & exports. They gave it up eventually as the costs were running to high and the pressure on the Euro was to powerful as the ECB was highly accommodative in their policy.
post_id | 3,136,617 |
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author | puffin |
permlink | re-clayop-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t094007411z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:40:06 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:40:06 |
depth | 2 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:40:06 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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author_reputation | 20,839,576,493,528 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
The volume trade on Poloniex for Sbd is too low, sbd is not so high for the traders considering what money they trade on other cryptos. If you remove Sbd from poloniex 100% the price will be under 1$.
post_id | 3,133,994 |
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author | cebymaster |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t070652182z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:06:51 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:06:51 |
depth | 1 |
children | 1 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:06:51 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 200 |
author_reputation | 18,525,834,406,244 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
The pegging mechanism should work in all situations and not depend on where the token is traded or not.
post_id | 3,136,056 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-cebymaster-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t090207868z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:02:06 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:02:06 |
depth | 2 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:02:06 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
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curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 103 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
You don't need SBD when you display de rewards in Steem in combination with the estimated post value. Like the estimated account value of the wallet.
post_id | 3,134,143 |
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author | hsq |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t071413280z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:14:18 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:14:18 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:14:18 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 149 |
author_reputation | 683,037,337,302 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
I don't think the dollar amount shown on a post does any favours for steemit as a serious blogging site, I would rather a more discreet value indicator.
post_id | 3,134,434 |
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author | bleepcoin |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t073152773z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 07:31:51 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 07:31:51 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 188,741,801,066 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 07:31:51 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.308 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 152 |
author_reputation | 29,587,693,495,256 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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bleepcoin | 0 | 188,741,801,066 | 100% |
> The funny thing is, those successful authors who left the platform when the price went down, would have multiplied the value of their earnings if they had stayed and taken their rewards in SP instead of SBD. How so? New here and really, for me, rewards are secondary. I wish to increase my steems... so I powered up as suggested by others. Then switched back to 50/50.
post_id | 3,135,055 |
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author | sidwrites |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t080506585z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 08:05:06 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 08:05:42 |
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children | 1 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 08:05:06 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
If user has posted when the price of steem has been low, he has been rewarded with a little amount of SBD. If he's been lucky, he might have sold that with two dollar price recently. But at the same time, the price of steem has gone up much more than doubled. If the user had been paid only with steems, he would have gotten a much more if he sold those steems now.
post_id | 3,136,100 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-sidwrites-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t090441345z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:04:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:04:42 |
depth | 2 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:04:42 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 365 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
SBD is doing just fine. So far I've made quit a bit of money just trading on the difference between it and steem it's not broke...so don't fix it.
post_id | 3,135,210 |
---|---|
author | everittdmickey |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t081338779z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 08:13:39 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 08:13:39 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 117,732,950,142 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 08:13:39 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.142 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.045 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 146 |
author_reputation | 235,625,463,700,046 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
bledarus | 0 | 530,529,515 | 100% | ||
oldtimer | 0 | 117,202,420,627 | 10% |
I think a good solution good be to ditch SBD but not to solely display the paid out Steem. Instead display additional information in the form of an constantly updated real dollar price. Displayed author reward: 100 Steem (currently worth 101 USD) By displaying the current value even the articles which were written when Steem was valued 6 cent, would now show high(er) rewards. It would also promote the idea of striving for a higher market cap as it will highlight how user funds are affected by a price increase.
post_id | 3,135,312 |
---|---|
author | puffin |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t081838458z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 08:18:39 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 08:18:39 |
depth | 1 |
children | 2 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 08:18:39 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 519 |
author_reputation | 20,839,576,493,528 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
I think it might be best to give users an option to choose which currency they want to see their (and everybody else's) earnings.
post_id | 3,136,266 |
---|---|
author | samupaha |
permlink | re-puffin-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t091613721z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:16:12 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:16:12 |
depth | 2 |
children | 1 |
net_rshares | 9,177,272,642 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:16:12 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 129 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
puffin | 0 | 9,177,272,642 | 100% |
I like that. A European might find Euro displayed more appealing and therefore the platform.
post_id | 3,136,439 |
---|---|
author | puffin |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-puffin-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t092759506z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:28:00 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:28:00 |
depth | 3 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:28:00 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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author_reputation | 20,839,576,493,528 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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I disagree. I like SBD. I do wish it was more closely pegged tot he US dollar so it could be used as it was intended. A stable currency. It's not easy to keep anything stable in a free market such as the crypto world but it's worth doing. Once SBD becomes more mainstream and Vessel wallet comes out I think more shops will take advantage of a Stable SBD and that will increase Steem value.
post_id | 3,135,465 |
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author | solarguy |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t082313621z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 08:28:03 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:36:54 |
depth | 1 |
children | 4 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 08:28:06 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 397 |
author_reputation | 63,257,367,008,670 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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Where is the evidence of this happening? I've hoped for this, too, but now I see it's only wishful thinking.
post_id | 3,136,288 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-solarguy-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t091728943z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:17:27 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:17:27 |
depth | 2 |
children | 3 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:17:27 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 108 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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well, everything on Steemit is wishful thinking. But who says wishes can't come true? I thought that they would inflate the SBD to lower the price but it has become a debatable topic rather than sticking to their pledge o it holding. Im not sure how it all works, not a math wizard. but i do hope it finds stability. I even said in a comment on Tim's post referenced here *"why not peg it at $2us?"* it just needs stability, any value is ok. It will help people use steem to market what ever they are selling.
post_id | 3,136,560 |
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author | solarguy |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-solarguy-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t093113458z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:36:03 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:36:03 |
depth | 3 |
children | 2 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:36:03 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 516 |
author_reputation | 63,257,367,008,670 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
>Because I don't see any good reasons to have stable cryptocurrency on this platform, I suggest we remove it. The way I understand the whitepaper it was mainly meant for _commerce and savings._ It might not be necessary for Steemit as a platform, but would be great for an e-shop, lending and saving.
post_id | 3,135,677 |
---|---|
author | felixxx |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t083943718z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 08:39:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 08:39:42 |
depth | 1 |
children | 1 |
net_rshares | 9,177,272,642 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 08:39:42 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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author_reputation | 66,238,594,869,311 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
puffin | 0 | 9,177,272,642 | 100% |
But therefore a stable pegged and not volatile currency would be desired
post_id | 3,136,395 |
---|---|
author | puffin |
permlink | re-felixxx-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t092447419z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:24:48 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:24:48 |
depth | 2 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:24:48 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 72 |
author_reputation | 20,839,576,493,528 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
Steem dollars were never meant to peg strongly to the dollar. Dan always said he EXPECTED SBD to carry a premium and that it was meant to as often as possible be a weak peg with a premium essentially. If u want a tight peg go with bitusd and other bitassets. Having sbd removed imo is the worst idea there is. Simply because if u have steem backed dollars...EVERYONE knows what dollars are and that this association in and of itself is a huge marketing and mass acceptance bonus.
post_id | 3,136,251 |
---|---|
author | fuzzyvest |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t091513613z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:15:18 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:15:18 |
depth | 1 |
children | 2 |
net_rshares | 2,062,084,442,468 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:15:18 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 3.688 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 1.226 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 483 |
author_reputation | 16,052,975,968,694 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
pfunk | 0 | 792,226,516,124 | 50% | ||
ausbitbank | 0 | 1,255,984,128,610 | 31% | ||
krystle | 0 | 13,312,060,601 | 31% | ||
bledarus | 0 | 561,737,133 | 100% |
> Simply because if u have steem backed dollars...EVERYONE knows what dollars are and that this association in and of itself is a huge marketing and mass acceptance bonus. I've used to think this way. But not anymore, because I just don't see any evidence of this. It hurts the marketing by attracting low quality users and causes suspicions on potentially great users.
post_id | 3,136,453 |
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author | samupaha |
permlink | re-fuzzyvest-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t092845524z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:28:45 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:28:45 |
depth | 2 |
children | 1 |
net_rshares | 375,227,067,325 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:28:45 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.482 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.161 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 370 |
author_reputation | 43,651,583,224,016 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
fuzzyvest | 0 | 375,227,067,325 | 8% |
I see no evidence of what u say. :/ But i still love u :]
post_id | 3,160,072 |
---|---|
author | fuzzyvest |
permlink | re-samupaha-re-fuzzyvest-re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170529t031515723z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-29 03:15:18 |
last_update | 2017-05-29 03:15:18 |
depth | 3 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-05 03:15:18 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 58 |
author_reputation | 16,052,975,968,694 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
sneak | 0 | 0 | 100% |
I agree 100 percent. A lot of people will be discouraged to see their post value go down with the coin and most of them wont understand it. I like your idea of using sp and steem only because it gives the publisher a straight forward answer as to what their post is worth. Furthermore, The whole SBD, Steem And Steem Power setup is very confusing to newbies and has no clear answer as to what is what.. People are left to figure this out on their own.
post_id | 3,136,273 |
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author | thewolfofcrypto |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t091746527z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 09:16:39 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 09:16:39 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 32,040,561,216 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 09:16:39 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.045 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.003 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 452 |
author_reputation | 185,258,344,062 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
samupaha | 0 | 32,040,561,216 | 5% |
SBD is here to stay, dont attack it
post_id | 3,138,971 |
---|---|
author | kingscrown |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t115650354z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 11:56:54 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 11:56:54 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 11:56:54 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 35 |
author_reputation | 1,990,164,104,714,661 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
It's fine, it shouldn't be removed. If it's trading above $1.00 who cares? It just means that there is greater demand than supply rather than it being broken.
post_id | 3,139,226 |
---|---|
author | cm-steem |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t121104175z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 12:11:03 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 12:11:03 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
net_rshares | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 12:11:03 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 158 |
author_reputation | 58,583,832,278,845 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
I see that @ned resteemed this post. I would like to know if Steemit, Inc. agrees with this assessment...that SBDs should be removed. This isn't the first time that they've shown interest/support for calls to eliminate SBDs. Rather than remaining quiet/silent about it, why not state their position and engage in the discussions? I think these repeated calls for eliminating SBDs are absurd. There's always some reason or another. When the STEEM price was low and the debt ratio was high, everyone panicked about it and wanted to eliminate SBDs, even though the peg was held. When STEEM prices are higher and SBDs are trading at a high premium, people are now calling to eliminate them because "the pegging is broken." What has been true since last fall is that SBDs can be bought/sold for *at least* one U.S. Dollar. There has been a stable *floor* for the token. That was the primary intent for it. As long as they're worth at least one U.S. Dollar, I'd say that the experiment with them has been wildly successful. Eliminating them because they currently trade at a premium is just preposterous, in my opinion. We need long-term thinking here. These reactions to relatively short-term price fluctuations in STEEM/SBDs really should stop. And Steemit, Inc. putting weight behind some of the calls/panic is a little unsettling, to say the least.
post_id | 3,140,580 |
---|---|
author | ats-david |
permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170528t131409374z |
category | sbd |
json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "users": ["ned"], "tags": ["sbd"]}" |
created | 2017-05-28 13:14:09 |
last_update | 2017-05-28 13:14:09 |
depth | 1 |
children | 2 |
net_rshares | 2,468,678,567,096 |
last_payout | 2017-06-04 13:14:09 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 5.654 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.768 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 1,355 |
author_reputation | 298,156,611,743,534 |
root_title | "SBD is broken, why not just remove it?" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
pfunk | 0 | 1,489,581,527,459 | 100% | ||
ausbitbank | 0 | 83,732,275,240 | 1% | ||
krystle | 0 | 832,003,787 | 1% | ||
blysards | 0 | 19,783,882,808 | 100% | ||
thisisbenbrick | 0 | 8,955,267,294 | 100% | ||
ats-david | 0 | 796,607,905,674 | 25% | ||
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> Rather than remaining quiet/silent about it, why not state their position and engage in the discussions? That would probably create a shitstorm so they let the community have the discussion and wait for a consensus to emerge. > I think these repeated calls for eliminating SBDs are absurd. There's always some reason or another. There is nothing absurd if the reasons are legit. > When the STEEM price was low and the debt ratio was high, everyone panicked about it and wanted to eliminate SBDs, even though the peg was held. But it required adjusting the system to be able to keep the peg. That was unnecessary work, it would have been easier just to remove SBD in that point. > When STEEM prices are higher and SBDs are trading at a high premium, people are now calling to eliminate them because "the pegging is broken." Because **it is**. If it's unable to keep the peg, then it clearly doesn't function properly. So it needs to be either fixed or removed. > What has been true since last fall is that SBDs can be bought/sold for at least one U.S. Dollar. There has been a stable floor for the token. That was the primary intent for it. That was the intent when steem was still hyperinflationary. Back then it made sense to have a token in the system that would keep the value. But now steem has only modest inflation so there isn't anymore big demand for a savings token. So the only usecase left is commerce. But that doesn't work out if SBD isn't stable. In a situation where we are now, instead of full market circulation it will be limited to "earn SBD by blogging" -> "buy something from a store" -> "storeowner sells it to cryptocurrency speculator". To have a real economy, the currency must keep its value stable so that it can flow to any direction in every situation between all participants. If somebody sells now something for SBD, customers who haven't earned SBD by blogging won't be buying because they would need to buy SBD from markets with huge premium. > We need long-term thinking here. These reactions to relatively short-term price fluctuations in STEEM/SBDs really should stop. Here is a fact for long-term thinkers: the pegging system is broken. The peg has been off for weeks now, so it's a concrete proof that the system doesn't work as intended. For a price stable asset short-term fluctuations in price would be something less than 24 hours. Losing the peg for more than a month indicates that the system is fundamentally broken. It should be pretty obvious that if you are a long-term thinker and want to see SBD used in commerce, there is urgent need to fix it. It is impossible to build a real economy with SBD we have now. Fortunately it wasn't done yet so people didn't lose their businesses.
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Price floors and price ceilings create shortages. It doesn't matter the context. Currency pegs are just price floors/ceilings... kind of both at the same time and therefore the worst of all possible worlds. They exist to be broken by the market. ... I had a huge reply half finished when I realized it would just be better as a full post. https://steemit.com/steem/@goldgoatsnguns/on-price-floors-sbd-s-and-how-to-run-a-steem-arb-fund My instincts tell me you are correct, sir.
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great...rs and upvote for u....
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permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170529t071539474z |
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Congratulations @samupaha! Your post was mentioned in my [hit parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20170528) in the following category: * Comments - Ranked 9 with 97 comments
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I've had a similar opinion since day one. If the issue is psychology, just create an algorithm that converts the Steem into the 7 day moving average estimate. No need for SBD then. It's not as if most people have never had to convert their home country's currency into a foreign one. They should be able to handle the concept of Steem by itself.
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Looks like the King Bitcoin is causing a lot of swaying
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permlink | re-samupaha-sbd-is-broken-why-not-just-remove-it-20170530t031330839z |
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Interesting discussion. I had previously considered it would be valuable to at least show both $ amount and Steem on the posts to combat this very issue, but that is probably less than a half-measure. I think you need that $ amount there because it makes it seem "real" to your prospective audience, but lacking the token amounts renders the amounts volatile. The problem is either way it's easier for people not to "do the math" and get a sense of the total reward, unless you totally remove the $ amount listed. Problem is, if you do that, suddenly when you try to show someone else how it works, they don't have an immediate frame of reference to the effort and reward ratio for creating content. They may not even believe it's real without that $ there. It's a conundrum.
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Why would you ever want to measure success in much more volatile Steem tokens than SBD ? The fact that SBD does not maintain accurate USD peg does not mean that it's not better than Steem. If Steem becomes 10 times cheaper people will be able to buy 10 times more and reward with 10x more tokens. How is that better than rewarding with more stable SBD ?
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