Why it's Not the Boys in the Above Picture Who Grow Up to be School Shooters by schattenjaeger

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Why it's Not the Boys in the Above Picture Who Grow Up to be School Shooters
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First, a PSA: I'm sick as a dog, so if I don't have a *Still Not Black Enough* chapter ready by Monday, that's why. But I'm tough, so I'll try to pull it off.

Anyway.

This picture was posted on Facebook and I happened to read the discussion below in the comment section.

Something that struck me was a few people saying things along the lines: *"This is a good thing; the boys in the above picture will just grow up to be school shooters. Something, something, something, toxic masculinity."*

I'm here to tell you why that is, in fact, not the case.

It’s not the boys in the above picture that grow up to be school shooters. 

They will be masculine enough to attract a partner, shielding them from the depression that leads to school shootings. 

If I had to guess, I’d put my money on the ”boys” in the picture below as potential school shooters. 

School shooters are always weak and alone. They’re men who can’t get a date. 

You can throw all the equality bullshit you want at me, but the simple truth is that weak and unmasculine men will end up alone because women ultimately want a man. 

They may settle with a modern man in their 30s when they’re attractiveness and best days are behind them, but A) They’ll still cheat on the side if the possibility of doing so presents itself, and B) That’s only if the guys even make it into their 30s before committing suicide or a mass shooting due to depression caused by failure and loneliness.

In case you haven't noticed, school shooters aren't strong, masculine men who are popular among females. They're usually the Elliot Rodgers types who are, what, 5'5" and 90 pounds soaking wet.

I checked out a few of the videos by one Mr. Rodgers shortly after he did his thing, and the one thing I noticed instantly was just how damn feminine the guy was. There wasn't an ounce of masculinity in the guy, nothing about his body language and the way he presented himself yelled "testosterone".

It doesn't take a degree in rocket science to quickly figure out why he was a virgin. Sorry, but it's the truth.

It's the popular liberal/libertarian thing to say that people can just do whatever they please and be themselves, but honestly, as I've gotten older, I've grown more skeptical of that attitude.

I think sometimes an outsider can be in a position where it's justified to slap someone in the face and tell them that what they're doing is harmful to themselves.

And I'd say that the alarming loss of masculinity in men and boys in society is something that's not only harmful to them, but harmful to other people, as well. There aren't many things that are more dangerous than a desperate man who can't get a date. That man has nothing to lose, and when that time bomb goes off, it's a dangerous thing.

Of course, men aren't really encouraged to be masculine these days because we're trained to think that genders don't even exist and whatnot.

And this notion kind of frees men from the burden of being a man - and something that a lot of people also don't seem to get is that being a man is fucking horrible at times. Not all the time, not at all. But being a man, an actual man, is a damn burden. It's a rewarding burden ultimately, and I wouldn't have it any other way, but there definitely is a price to pay.

But when naive enough boys and young men are kind of given permission by society and culture to not carry that burden and to not take that responsibility of being a man, many will gladly take up on the offer.

The tragic outcome of this will be a growing number of weak men who are alone and depressed.

And some of them will go to the extreme of taking that out on other people.

But trust me: it's not going to be the boys in the above picture - it's the ones in the picture below.
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@sajjadk ·
really agree with you opinion.
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@schattenjaeger ·
I’m glad.
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@builderofcastles ·
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It is indeed the boys in the picture below.

Another point is that the ones above aren't alone.  They are working as a team.  They are trying to overcome obstacles (mostly imagined) and getting stronger.

Every school shooter is shouting, "look at me, do not ignore me".

And what does society do?  Drugs them and ignores them some more.

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You can tell that boys who grew up with toy guns, then BB guns, then a 22... have never gone on a school shooting.  Because, these boys, if they ever decided to shoot up a school, would build themselves a blind and pick off kids from a distance.  The numbers of fatalities would be WAY higher.  But, we can't talk about such things.

The NRA gets the blame, when they should actually get the praise.
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@nathen007 · (edited)
Strange because as a kid I played with toy guns, as a teenager I wore makeup as part of pop culture, but partly due to the fact we have tight gun control, and partly because Im well adjusted, I didnt shoot anyone!
Neither of the groups in your pic are more likely than the other to commit crime. Its sad you fall for idiotic facebook memes.
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@schattenjaeger ·
Not as sad as your grasp on writing.
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@nathen007 ·
Yup, sad we cant all be geniuses like yourself big man
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@blockchainyouth · (edited)
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> They may settle with a modern man in their 30s when they’re attractiveness and best days are behind them, but A) They’ll still cheat on the side if the possibility of doing so presents itself, and B) That’s only if the guys even make it into their 30s before committing suicide or a mass shooting due to depression caused by failure and loneliness.

I’ve always thought this but never said it out loud or seen it written stark in front of me, it’s so true that those women in that category will actually do that; must be a genetic spread your code instinct?? All your points are 100% true it is the ostracized-beta-doesn’t like normal masculine things-was “odd” as a child male that becomes the evil we see today, not the prized and adored rampant male sexuality we see plastered across our faces every single day of our lives 
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@scandinavianlife ·
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Agree. Lack of testo in men cause mental illness. Social engineering (telling ur kids that they are toxic) is another cause. Most Boys growing up now are confused betamales. And the girls prefer the chads or the higher testo immigrants.

White boys are just confused self hating betas trying to inpress girls with their agreableness and sjw nonsense. Of course - the whole feminism welcome migrants stuff is just one giant collective shit test from white women.
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@nikema ·
Hmm, this argument assumes that all of these boys are heterosexual. Which may or may not be the case. In my experience, the boys below have no trouble getting attention from girls. How many mass shooters have been masters of applying makeup?

White supremacist beliefs, feeling entitled to sex, and history of domestic violence seem to be better predictors of the likeliness to become a mass-shooter. Sounds a lot like toxic masculinity to me. But I know you don’t believe that exists. 

Do you think proper gun training for the incels who are not masculine enough in your opinion would have prevented these shootings? Do you really think the makeup boys are potential school shooters?
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@schattenjaeger ·
You're taking the pictures too literally. Actual appliance of makeup obviously has nothing to do with anything. And neither does gun training.

I'm not sure where the white supremacist thing comes from, I have not seen a connection between white supremacist beliefs and mass shootings myself, but you can link to something if you want to.

A feeling of entitlement to sex, however, seems to correlate with these shootings, that's where you're right.

Obviously enough, no one is entitled to sex.

But that feeling of entitlement then explodes into terrible acts of violence as the men fail to get a date, proving my point.

You can't force women to sleep with these men, but you can point them in a direction that changes them into men that can actually get some action happening.

The domestic violence thing you pulled out of your ass since these men tend to be desperately single, meaning no domestic violence can ever occur.
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@nikema ·
I’m not looking up links. You’re free of course to write it off as bullshit. 

I have a sincere question though. Do you think hormone therapy would help? Like instead of anti-depressants or other psychiatric drugs, check the testosterone levels in depressed men/boys?
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@pgveer ·
Be careful here. It seems that most shooters, at schools or elsewhere, are depressed, and medication makes the problem worse. Unless the person below is FORCED/ strongly "encouraged" to act like the pic shows, he is unlikely to become a shooter
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@schattenjaeger ·
Why do you think they are on all different kinds of pills? Because their lack of testosterone causes depression, an inability to control emotions, their concentration, everything. It completely fucks a man up, so no wonder shit like that happens.

This should be talked about more, but it isn't because it's a problem that concerns men, not women.
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@pgveer ·
Yes, I agree. However, the boy in the lower part of the pic will not *automatically* become a shooter
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@cyberdemon531 ·
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Or, get this, it's not going to be either of them because the chances of a person actually becoming a school shooter slim to none. Also lmfao @ children holding weapons of any kind being associated with "masculinity". Sure, they miiiiiight not be school shooters, but they'll probably be cops, or military, or some other toxic and oppressive position of power where people can get away with murder or have a justification to treat others like garbage. Yeah, I can do stereotypes, too :)  
  
The real fact of the matter is the root of the problem, if anything, is isolation and treating others like they're "different" and thus bad. I can guarantee that there is not a single shred of percentage difference in effeminate vs masculine men being school shooters, but instead loners vs people that are accepted.
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@schattenjaeger ·
You're taking the pictures too literally. It's not the guns or the makeup, per se. But yes, guns are a masculine interest. Boys, on average, are more interested in stuff like machinery and whatnot. That's why men are more likely to become engineers, for example.

But your second point is correct, I think. It's isolation and the feeling of being alone, which then erupts in acts of violence.

However, which group do you think is more accepted? You yourself have made posts recently about being isolated and banned from places for being trans.
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@cyberdemon531 ·
You could say the top is *more likely* to live a *normal* life, but the point is that everyone should have that same capability without having to conform to strict standards of society that they don't like, because if they do it just leads  to more internal unhappiness that can manifest in the same way or in different ways that are far from the desired outcome.
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@ats-david ·
$0.07
Not taking the two pictures literally...

I agree that the shooters will likely be from the pool of "outsiders" from the bottom photos. It won't be because they dress up and act like girls. It will be because they are mentally ill (as in, real psychological problems), socially awkward (not able to maintain healthy interpersonal relationships), and/or just not suitably adjusted to society/reality (are fed too much bullshit about what "normal" is or how everything/everyone is against them, etc.).  

It's the maladjusted and mentally ill that commit these crimes. 

There's nothing abnormal about kids playing with toy guns or even learning how to use actual firearms. Learning about these things or practicing with them to improve ones skills is nothing more than human nature...curiosity, knowledge, the ability to defend oneself, the will to survive. Acquiring skills for self-defense or using tools that you enjoy is nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to vilify.

If there were no guns, would people still blame bows and arrows for mass murders? Would it be scary to see young boys playing with toy swords or learning hand-to-hand combat? Would a slingshot cause panic in parents/adults? Of course not...at least not for normal, mentally-fit people. 

For the panicked, the maladjusted, the deniers of reality, the feeble-minded or physically weak - this could be the scariest thing imaginable. 

We should not cater to them and their irrational fears. It is not the irrational that ought to dictate behavior for the rest of us. Our reason, our ability to acquire, accumulate, and pass on inter-generational knowledge is what sets us apart from the irrational beasts of nature. Why do we allow those among us with short memories and illogical/contradictory views to tell the rest of us how we ought to act, knowing that *they* are indeed the ones who are oblivious, unreasonable, and *wrong?*

Mass murderers are mentally ill people. And they kill with whatever tools are available to them, whether it's a knife, a truck, a gun, bombs, chemical weapons, or the ability to control a nation's economics or food supply. They didn't become mass murderers because they played with toys. They became mass murderers by trying to live outside of reality - by learning that their world does not cater to their illogical whims and faulty beliefs. They became mass murderers because they rejected the world as it is and found no other way to understand this rejection...and, in fact, believe that the world has rejected them instead. (And it likely had, but it is their failure to adjust/cope with reality.)

The vilification of tools and those who use them (in a non-aggressive nature) only does one thing: **_It creates more distortions of reality...more irrational fears...more outsiders._**

Eventually, it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Vilify those who use guns. Make them feel unaccepted and abnormal. Make what is perfectly rational into behavior that is socially unacceptable. And then sit back and watch as these otherwise normal people are pushed to their mental breaking points because the truly mentally-ill and maladjusted are dictating social norms. 

I mean...it's not like this doesn't already happen in a variety of ways. Is there any wonder why so many people are depressed? When human nature becomes taboo and people are made to feel disgusted with themselves or just can't figure out what's "wrong" with them (because there *isn't* anything wrong with them), what else can we expect than to see mass psychology completely break down?

Is this not basically the recorded history of mankind? And are we (in general) just not capable of recognizing it?
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@cyberdemon531 ·
So are you saying that the United States Government's entire workforce is mentally ill? Surely you are just inept and unable to grasp the larger concepts at hand, because that would be pretty absurd to claim.
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@ats-david ·
So your problem is with comprehension?
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@alaqrab ·
Going down a weird rabbit hole with this post. I started to think that the only flaw with this statement is the females who are more masculine have no problems with integrating into society. IE no females are mass shooters. So it really is about the tribe not valuing a feminist male. Its kinda pathetic we still think so primitive. We have 🤖's to do our defending these days. So if it is about sex deprived males why is it happening now in time. Sex is more available these days. Then it made me think about people who pay for sex when people are giving it out for... well almost nothing. Then I thought about vote buying. Vote buying is kinda like paying for sex. The question is, are the people who run the vote 🤖, pimps or hookers?
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@bethalea ·
giving boys the freedom to be themselves is not weakness. being feminine is not a weakness. the boys who have shot up schools have done so out of illness - insanity - and a lack of appropriate gun control. just because the boys in the bottom picture make you uncomfortable doesn't mean they aren't happy, well socialized, positive members of society.
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@schattenjaeger ·
$0.14
It’s not about being uncomfortable. They don’t make me uncomfortable. And if it were up to me, society wouldn’t treat people like that like garbage. 

But this, in the heterosexual world, comes down to finding a mate. 

And feminine men have a significantly lower chance of arousing sexual attention in females than the alpha males. 

You can disagree all you want, but this is biology. 

Just because it makes you uncomfortable, doesn’t mean it’s not true.
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@bethalea ·
Perhaps I'm wrong in understanding your post; I don't know how you did it but you got me sick. :( However, what I read is your declaration that boys who express and embrace their more 'feminine' side are sexually frustrated and therefore more likely to go on shooting sprees. 

My point is that anyone who goes on a shooting spree is mentally ill and has access to guns; everything else is hyperbole. 

And for the record, you do make me uncomfortable but in that tingly excited way. ;)
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@bacchist ·
You're wrong and a bad person.
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@bethalea ·
your mom.
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@bacchist ·
no u
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@sift666 ·
So true even if those "boys" below don't become false flag shooters they will probably become libtards

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@hr2 ·
nice
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@vagisalem ·
$0.03
This is the dark side of modern civilization.
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@hybeekayswt ·
So sweet
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@logiczombie ·
WTF.
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