Steemit's Secret Weapon: Turning Trolls Into Functioning Members of Society by stellabelle

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# Steemit is the new blockchain-powered social media site that pays its users to post and upvote content, but as is the case with all new things, it’s not yet well understood by many people. 

To make things even more confusing, it has a collection of fierce critics who don’t see Steemit’s full potential or hidden successes. Steemit is not a perfect economic model and as an early adopter, I have my own criticisms of the platform. The biggest problem for me is the way the rewards are distributed. It’s imbalanced because it seems that the rich are getting richer and the poor have trouble gaining traction when they first start out on the platform. Also, the only way to make any decent amount of money is to get upvoted by the big account holders called the _whales._ If you fall out of favor with the _whales,_ your Steem rewards will shrink and your user experience will start to feel really bad. Unless you have a streak of fierce determination inside, you probably won’t stay in Steemit for long. This is what I have noticed happening with some of my friends who tried out Steemit then left the platform because of the feeling of unfairness with the reward system.

## Most people focus solely on the reward system and fail to grasp the hidden successes of the platform that fly under the radar. 

It’s easy to focus on the rewards since you are confronted with the monetary value of posts every time you look at them, but I’d like to tell you about one of Steemit’s lesser known success stories: the reformation of internet trolls.

http://i.giphy.com/MfIGtdhq6Q9aM.gif

# As you know, trolls are the bane of the internet’s existence. 

Most people have had some interaction with a troll on the internet and in some cases, it can completely ruin your experience with a particular site. In the early days, there were some trolls that definitely ruined my online experience in Steemit. One troll was responsible for scaring away a lot of users. Special groups and chat channels had to be formed just to deal with this troll and some especially vulnerable users suffered a great deal. Some chose to stay away from Steemit because the verbal abuse was _that_ bad. 

# During this time, the Steemit user interface was changed to include collapsed comments and a reputation system. 
http://i.giphy.com/26hisWdTd1284HXOg.gif

Along with these changes, a more robust anti-bullying culture developed and before long, even the worst of the trolls had slowly begun to morph into the semblance of functioning members of human society. 

### Let me describe the specifics of these interface changes. 

## The collapsed comments work like this: if someone leaves a nasty, trolling comment on someone’s post, users can flag the comment which collapses it, thereby hiding its contents. 

You can still choose to see it by pressing a button that says “show” on a comment that is listed as “this post was hidden due to low ratings”. The other result of having a comment or a post flagged is that the person’s reputation score gets lowered. People with high reputations can greatly lower the reputation of users with lower reputations. And once a user gets a reputation of 0 or lower, his or her posts appear collapsed and won’t show up unless you press the “show” button. Is this system flawless, free of abuse? Absolutely not. I’ve seen some high reputation users abuse their power and destroy others who were not trolls. If you’ve seen the Nosedive episode of Black Mirror, you’ll understand Steemit better. But no human-created system is perfect. 

## The other thing that happens when a post or comment is flagged is the monetary rewards are reduced or entirely removed from it. 

So, as far as trolls are concerned, the system inside Steemit is the first one that ties a negative economic consequence to the act of trolling. If you troll people on Steemit, you won’t get any kind of monetary reward for doing so and you will become more and more invisible. The whole point of being on Steemit is to earn monetary rewards and build a community. One user named @klye used to describe himself as being a troll, but now he’s an active member of Steemit. I was conversing with him the other day and this is what he had to say about the topic:

<center>[![a0792b8016.png](https://s23.postimg.org/w50m74vwr/a0792b8016.png)](https://postimg.org/image/69gvnxu2v/)</center>

Image Source: @klye

> “Ah. Thank you very much for the clear explanation. Much appreciated.
I've never considered myself a journalist. I'm just some weirdo that showed up to draw MS-Paint di**s and troll people.. Somewhere along the line I got sidetracked in all of that and ended up a politician.. lol”

I probed him further to tell me what sort of troll he used to be on the internet. Here’s what he said:

> “I'm a general all purpose asshat. If there was a joke to be made at someone's expense I generally hoped on it. If there was chaos to be created I fed the flames of it. There are far worse troll examples out there than I was.. Generally was basically tame compared to some who flex racist, sexist, etc etc ideals on people. I joined Steemit after it had been hacked.. Was doing the chaos routine and causing FUD.. Then @ned was all like "No need for this." ... I was un-trolled by the CEO my first day here.. Now I'm fighting for the rights of users on our network..I'm a damn good troll.. But seemingly a better witness.. I guess it all works out in the end.”

And there were other trolls in the early days of Steemit who have stopped trolling, too. Of course not all have completely vanished, but due to the interface changes, their power is so diminished that no one really notices them anymore. 

# It seems that Steemit is so far the only internet site that truly solves the problem of the evil internet trolls. Reforming trolls is Steemit's secret weapon.

[![shoes.jpg](https://s28.postimg.org/vdgdruu19/shoes.jpg)](https://postimg.org/image/9r1datvgp/)
Image Source: Unsplash

Finding a purpose in society and feeling valued are basic human needs that even trolls secretly desire. Steemit taps into that desire and makes it possible for trolls to find work within the Steemit community. The secret to finding your purpose in Steemit is defining what you like to do and then finding an outlet for your energy. No one is going to tell you what you should do in Steemit, but there is plenty of work to do if you decide to look for it. 

**Steemit…….turning internet trolls into functioning members of society since 2016.**

My goal with this article is to get it published on CoinTelegraph, CoinDesk, etc. If you have connections with the editors on a site, please hook me up. Thanks!

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@soulsurfer ·
Hello @stellabelle,

I have been reading your posts and I really enjoy them. 

Im quite new to the community but I have a lot of drive and initiative to help where possible. Your posts are inspiring thank you!

Keep up the good work!
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@stellabelle ·
thanks for reading and your nice comments! I do write for readers, so that's my job, I guess! Writing is my schtick as I have loads of ideas that I must release on a daily basis! Thank you :)
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@stellabelle ·
ah, what kind of work interests you?
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@soulsurfer ·
Hey! Thanks for the reply :) 

Your recent stuff is good. But what I like about your account  is that you cover several topics 

In my case now tips n tricks would be great but I enjoy reading more stories now that I'm slowing getting the hang of this.

Cheers,
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@williambanks · (edited)
Told ya so :D
Great Post, upvoted.
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@stellabelle ·
what do you mean?
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@williambanks · (edited)
You had some major anti-troll rage awhile (several months) ago .  Asking for safe spaces etc.  This is back when you were talking about Synero's system being superior.  

Back then I was trying to explain that trolls are just normal folks but feel like outsiders.  The solution was to put them on timeout and then reachout an olivebranch of friendship.

"We will eventually find them to be functioning member of our society" was something I said back then.  I assumed you were remembering those conversations when you decided to write this.

I never knew Klye to be a troll.  That's weird to me.  I've always found him to be an awesome guy.
Every one of our former trolls with the exception of @dickbutt have been reformed at this point and are fully functioning active members, just under different names.
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@brianphobos ·
That is a pretty funny title.  It is kind of funny to think about how these trolls can be reformed on Steemit.  Here is another way a YouTuber reforms young video game playing trolls.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyYajV0ClF4
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@stellabelle ·
Well, it's really a hidden success story that I got to thinking about this morning....the guy's voice in the video freaked me out...
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@brianphobos ·
Hahha,  Yeah that stalker character is creepy.  He also tricks young trolls into believing they are being hacked by Anonymous.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrHtkT5h-w
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@goldmatters ·
Tweeted and tagged coindesk ;)
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@stellabelle ·
Thanks. I guess Coindesk is on STeemit? I'll check....
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@goldmatters ·
No I tweeted and tagged coindesk on twitter with your post :)
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@rynow ·
Hi @stellabelle
Very nice post, thanks.
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@stellabelle ·
you're welcome :)
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@araki ·
good blog @stellabelle , nice story with @klye the extroll :)
it is good that steemit is protected from trolls by people ,  flag is a nice feature 
freedom for all control for majority
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@stellabelle ·
I was not really trolled by klye, although he did get mad at me once....
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@araki ·
kyle is anything but not a troll now i checked out his blogs , v nice :)
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@marifa ·
$1.32
Hello Stellabelle, I just joined steemit few days ago and I have read your thread earlier with the other steemian. I think you're the kind of person that newbies like me would want to for help. Thanks a lot for the information you've given I am sure others would be glad to know about your postings. Keep up the kindness.
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@stellabelle ·
yeah, ask away! If you have any questions, just let me know. Thank you :)
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@marifa ·
Thank you very much.
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@thecryptofiend ·
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Great points.

>Absolutely not. I’ve seen some high reputation users abuse their power and destroy others who were not trolls. If you’ve seen the Nosedive episode of Black Mirror, you’ll understand Steemit better. But no human-created system is perfect.

I think that could also be called a form of trolling.  We are all flawed and irrational human beings and we all do bad things.

All we can try to do is make the best system we can and continue to refine it.  It will never be perfect and will all behave like total bastards at some point.
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@stellabelle ·
I completely agree with you on this point. Every one of us has some flaw or character defect that ends up damaging things. That's being human. Even those who decided to be neutral on certain topics end up pissing people off. We have mood swings and are mostly irrational. Emotions drive behavior much more than people realize. Some of us are absolutely crazy half the time, too. Every time someone fucks up, I take notes and try to figure out what I would have done. And when I screw up, I try to think through why i did what I did. We all have secrets too.........
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@thecryptofiend · (edited)
Great points.

>Some of us are absolutely crazy half the time, too.

Exactly but may of us pretend we are not because of societal programming and shaming.  I think life would be better if we just admitted to it more:)

>Every time someone fucks up, I take notes and try to figure out what I would have done. And when I screw up, I try to think through why i did what I did.

Yes that helps.

> We all have secrets too.........

Yes I think that is a basic human right although with the way things are going we may not be allowed to have them for much longer.

I think kids these days don't even understand the concept anymore or perhaps the need!
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@sumthnfrumnuthn ·
Great post. 
For the love of God can someone direct me to templates  I can use to make my posts look this good.
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@stellabelle ·
well, for starters, I only use Markdown. what part do you need help with?
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@sumthnfrumnuthn ·
Well,  I guess I have to learn markdown but it won't be pretty.
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@stellabelle · (edited)
thanks :) I use a mix of gifs and photos. Pixabay and Unsplash are where I get my photos and the first image I combined 2 to make a collage.

http://i.giphy.com/q9lNzUPfLAbBK.gif
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@sumthnfrumnuthn ·
Thanks for the response.I keep trying to get my own posts done but get sucked into reading your posts, that makes two just today. ;)
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@donkeypong ·
I love this post. Steemit is a social site. Being critical is useful sometimes, but only when the ideas add real value. Beyond that, trolls are just burning bridges and hurting themselves. Get your destructive passive-aggressive kicks out somewhere else, guys. The rest of us are rowing this boat forward and we welcome you to join the party!
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@stellabelle ·
> I love this post.

That means a lot coming from you, my original Steemit employer with the donkey ears. Thanks for stopping by, I appreciate it.
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@dreemit ·
This is a great angle for the outside world. I think @klye should pair his story of how he changed his trolling life through steemit with this article, it would be a powerful combo.
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@stellabelle ·
thanks for your advice. I'm thinking of where else to post it besides my regular places: Medium and Linkedin
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@klye ·
Thank you for the honourable mentions Stellabelle!

Man last year was nuts.. THe amount of change I've seen in the world and myself is outstanding.. This year will be even better. :)
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@stellabelle ·
yup! And the best thing is that all of us who were early adopters and have been through all the guinea pig tests are closer now! We've just been through too much now.................
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@lightsplasher ·
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Great article!  I do think this is a really good plus for Steemit.  

It is also a wonderful way of teaching the value of realising that the success of others can lead indirectly to our own success.  Being happy that others are getting rewards gives many more chances for us to be happy.  

Trolling others for our own happiness just results in difficulties for ourself and the community at large.
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@stellabelle ·
yeah, thanks! I need to be reminded of what you said.....
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@the-ego-is-you · (edited)
Great points made. If this is how it actually ends up working even just some of the time, then that's obviously totally fabulous. 

The only risk I see is that some trolls are trying to seem "nice" on the surface, but still keep their troll life style in places where there is less accountability or they are in the majority (personality cult) company of their friends.
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@stellabelle ·
well sure, as long as steemit brings out the best in them, then it's fine.
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@the-ego-is-you · (edited)
Yes, but if the model is imperfect, they could pose a great risk when given too much power as they seem "nice". (Which could be done faster in a number of ways, by giving away money or catering to trending opinion on the latest flag war/issue etc)
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@ats-david ·
I mostly agree with this assessment. Steemit has a way of weeding out the true trolls based on the voting system. I think it works rather well, either at converting them or sending them back to their home under the bridge.

On the other hand, Steemit has occasionally turned regular users into trolls if such users didn't like how rewards were being allocated by other stakeholders (outside of actual harmful behavior). But most of the time they just leave shortly afterwards - or before it gets to that level. 

When we're free to use our own money/stake as we see fit, the resulting economy tends to take over and resolve most of the issues. (That is not to say that other, more fundamental issues do not exist, particularly right now on this platform.)
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@clayop ·
Secret of Steemit: Trolling also needs investment in Steem Power!
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@justtryme90 ·
In the case of @klye who better to fight against trolls for the good of the community then a masterful troll? That logic is why so many thieves become security professionals, they know how the mind of the enemy works because they were the enemy.
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@stellabelle · (edited)
Good points. I really had no idea he considered himself to be a troll. That was new info I just learned.
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@screenname ·
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@haphazard-hstead ·
It's nice to read about some of the history of Steemit. Even though it's history is short, the developers have really been responsive to unexpected situations. That's good for new folks to hear. It helps put current critiques in a bigger context, too. People aren't complaining -- it's how Steemit evolves. Good luck in getting this published!  : )
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@treewalker ·
Good post. Up voted and resteemed.
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@vincent4384 ·
$0.08
the blackmirror gif is exactly what i was feeling about steem hahahah
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@stellabelle ·
oh, and it is a form of black mirror.........
http://i.giphy.com/c1bLfT7vUQgak.gif
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@stellabelle ·
And in Black Mirror fashion, I have raised your reputation score to 38 since you decided to comment on my post. You went from 25 to 38. Muwahhhhhhhh
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@stellabelle ·
If you're wondering how that happened....
I'm 73 and you were at 25.
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