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> Proof to be a better system in what terms? A sinking boat vs a floating one. The current system favors those who do engage in absolutely no work, aka proof-of-no-brain-needed. How could it be worst? > I'd be pretty pissed off under n2 if I purchase or earn 100 SP, but someone with 10x more SP has 100x influence when it comes to stake-weighted voting, instead of a linear 10x. That would be irrational. Linear devalue the whole platform and thus Steem. Regarding slightly superlinear, I think it would only slow down the desirable effects of superlinear. > The current curation reward system is designed to encourage consensus. It makes it profitable to vote with others and less profitable to vote elsewhere. The result of this system is to increase the contrast between posts with high payouts and everything else. **It serves to accelerate the process of reaching consensus without respect to the consequences of that consensus.** @dantheman
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> The current system favors those who do engage in absolutely no work, aka proof-of-no-brain-needed. How could it be worst? Indeed.. > That would be irrational. Linear devalue the whole platform and thus Steem. Not sure if I'm willing to concede here with that statement, but I get what you mean. It'll be a hardsell for anyone who can put their fingers together in figuring they're being shortchanged immensely for the system. > Regarding slightly superlinear, I think it would only slow down the desirable effects of superlinear. Yup, our proposal here is an in-between solution for the individual and the collective. I think there's good evidence that n<sup>2</sup> did not work as well as expected. Sure it amplifies and contrasts contributions to the greatest degree, but are users generally happy? Maybe in a purely elite community. I'd give it to Dan for figuring out that linear is highly undesirable in first pass though. That's certainly not something that's obvious to most developers.
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permlink | re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-time-to-wake-up-and-fix-steem-s-voting-problem-20180526t080746046z |
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I think a good way to fix steem's voting problem is to give big votes to all the guys from Portugal who have an idiot photo as a profile photo and whose nickname starts with a "d" and ends with "nunes"
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permlink | re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-time-to-wake-up-and-fix-steem-s-voting-problem-20180615t142344575z |
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smooth | 0 | 217,036,669,447 | 10% | ||
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see how wise I am?
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Let's make it n^99999 so no one has any influence at all, good idea dude, you must be great at economics and by your suit I can see that you know what people on modern social media are engaged by.
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permlink | re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-time-to-wake-up-and-fix-steem-s-voting-problem-20180526t162818059z |
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Or we could just decide that 2 is clearly the ideal power to use in terms of economics and incentives. What a convenient coincidence that n^2 is easy to calculate in integer code using `rshares*rshares`!
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author | smooth |
permlink | re-charitybot-re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-re-teamsteem-re-kevinwong-time-to-wake-up-and-fix-steem-s-voting-problem-20180526t171809900z |
category | steem |
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I'm sure everyone in the >99% at least secretly likes >1.
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