hey @ura-soul i havent idea about. thats some good info..
"freedom is a good thing. The problem though is that:
With great power comes great responsibility"  You're right 

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don't think they can target the software, if the copyright is breached by the users I guess.. Definitely by the open source nature of the steemit, it cant be stopped on Web.

Domains and seed/rpc nodes can be shut down, as they are public knowledge, so they place of operation is known. But how about witness nodes. Do we know their IPs?

Hmm.. Interesting..

Dtube is the best thing that has happened to us right now and I think we should all be careful and refrain from any act that will threaten the continual existence of this great discovery.  The uploading of copyrighted works is an act that should be frowned at and although s unique feature of Dtube is limitless freedom, I would still suggest some level of control at least in this aspect  

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maybe some witnesses can chime in here?

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Funny, I wrote a post on this 3 months ago comparing DTube to YouTube and copyright considerations for uploaders. I found an account with at least 98 Movies on it that are clearly Hollywood productions and if the big movie houses like Sony, Warner Brothers and such decide to come after their rights, it could get interesting. Unlike me, who will file a DMCA take down notice, those big boys don't screw around. They'll wait until the money potential exceeds the cost of a legal team and move in for the kill.

A quote from my post: "Another thing to be aware of is copyright issues; always upload your own material, properly credit anything you use under "fair use" provisions, and get permission to publish anything recorded at privately owned venues"

Hardly anyone read my post of course. I decided that for every exclusive DTube upload, I'd still keep an unlisted or private copy on YouTube, ..just in case. That way I also know right away if there are copyright claims, correct or incorrect, against my work.

Hmm, uploading heavily copyrighted material could grow into a problem but I do have a bit different position on copyright in general (although I make my living by copyright laws...)

From my perspective, it is fine to upload obscure works which aren't monetized in other way and are in danger of falling into obscurity or even disappearing altogether. I do upload material that is not my own, but when I feel it would be fair use for educational purposes and that no money is taken from the actual authors/owners. Morally, I have no problem with it.

Remember old abandonware site abandonia? It was the place (and still is) which existed way before Good Old Games, dedicated to preserving old computer games and saving them from oblivion. They offered, and still do, old games with no copyright claims for free. Well, without them and their work Good Old Games would have never come to be and the authors of those old games would have never gotten their second lease of life they now enjoy.

And another thing, I truly believe that no one has the right to "bunker" anything that has once been made publicly available. And especially not  without a very very good reason. And simply forgetting about it in a pile of copyrighted material you accidentally acquired through corporate purchase is not a good reason. If there is an obscure documentary masterpiece whose current owner has forgotten it even exists... I will have no qualms uploading it. The work itself deserves it.

As for those who upload recent hollywood films or other people's original content... well they can rot in hell, on that we agree.

My answer is no and here's why: 

On one hand, witnesses can't be individually held accountable for the entirety of the blockchain nor are witnesses responsible for the fact that a post editing (unarchiving) function isn't coded in. It would first seem that each witness can only assume a very small part of responsibility.

Now let's keep a few things in mind: The frontends can be hardcoded to blacklist/hide all noted content that falls under copyright infringement. There were a few days when a popular profile didn't pull up on Steemit, for example. What do the frontends do? They filter the information from the blockchain and distribute it. They are thus the distributors of it, not the witness servers.  The witness servers are the storage.

The first step to dealing with copyright and other questionable content is sending and receiving a Cease & Desist notice. That's not the end of the world. You then have time to respond and they have time to figure out if they're going to follow up with legal action or not. The recipient would be Steemit, Busy or whichever frontend. Likely Steemit. At times, it will be the individual offender, if said offender can be identified. The witnesses don't even register on that sort of radar. 

Witnesses are here to provide a purely-technical service. They process blocks that are full of various forms of contents. They have *no way of filtering* what content they process and what content they reject. They don't have the ability to reject. I can't say "I'll set my parameters to only process blocks to do with account registration and to reject blocks with all follows and unfollows". That's impossible. Witnesses also have zero control over who is granted accounts, what content is uploadable, etc. They vote on hardforks and major changes to the blockchain, they set price feeds, but they don't have a way to filter or police the blockchain. 

And finally, witnesses offer their service in *good faith*, having taken all reasonable precautions that compromises they *can* control, such as poor service due to hacking of server, does not occur. For these reasons, going after a witness or all witnesses (providing they can be gathered) in a court of law is a colossal waste of time and no reasonable persecutor or lawyer will ever follow through on.

Hello,

I too see these problems incoming. I tried to talk to the DTube-Creator about this, but it looked like he wasn't very interested.

Copyrighted material on D.Tube is surely a problem, but it is the least problem. If a movie has been uploaded to D.Tube it is D.Tube against the Owner. That's a slow burner and, as we all learned from Piratebay, they will get you in the end.

Far greater problems arise when somebody uploads "CP" or Nazi-Stuff. Then it is D.Tube against the State. In D.Tubes case it would be the State of France or the EU, since the creator of D.Tube is located in France. And they don't pussy around when it comes to Nazi-Stuff. They are equally tight as the Germans when it comes to the topic.

A solution should be easy. He needs to implement a blacklist of hashes which will not be displayed. I know it is against the censorship-thinking...  But as long as D.Tube operates under french law, he has to obey it.

This is also a problem for Steemians who operate their own IPFS-Node. They should configure it in a way, that the node only host their own files.

An even bigger problem will be if someone posts CP or Nazi-Stuff in text form. Because it would be saved in the blockchain. In that case every witness has a problem. At least every Witness located in the EU and USA. Because every Witness would distribute that stuff.

The Problems arising the new EU-Data Protection Law is hard to grasp at this moment. The law is clear that if personal data is stored in a blockchain, it has to be deleted (after some time). So the question is, are there any personal data structures saved in the blockchain?

If not.... is not hard to write some personal data, like an adress to the blockchain.  Now, the blockchain would be in violation of the new data protection law. At least in the EU.

Its not easy. But it sure will be interesting.

Greetings from Germany,

Andy

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