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The blockchain is accessible with or without a UI being involved and so regardless of what the various websites do, the nodes still serve the content completely independently, so there is no escaping that. There can be no websites without the node servers. The fact that server operators do not have the ability to filter the content does not mean that as a server of that content the operator is absolved of all responsibility.
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That would fall under ease of access. If you put a pool in your yard and don't fence it in, kids can fall into it. If you fence it in, then you've taken reasonable precautions and kids would have to go out of their way to fall in. Same here. Someone would have to go off the beaten path to access the blockchain without a front end. Witnesses are doing whatever they can to secure their servers. Kinda how the recent phishing attacks are not the fault of the witnesses. If the frontends eliminated hyperlinks from connecting, for example, no one would click on the phishing links without using secondary methods to reach said links. (Not to say that they should do that.)
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I'm not really sure what you are saying here. If a court decides that copyrighted material is being served by the Steem network and that they want it closed, I don't see what difference it makes if 'the average person' doesn't know the IP address of the Steem nodes. I am not really suggesting that the average person would use the nodes directly - the point is that if they are trying to shut down websites that serve steem content, then it is pretty obvious that part of that would be going to the root source of the data or at least trying to block it. It doesn't matter if you put a fence around something that is designated as illegal, it's still called 'illegal'. I'm honestly not trying to make a case against Steem here, I'm just speaking based on what I have seen occur with other services that got shut down and in some cases people put in jail. Pirate bay and others come to mind.
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You wanted a discussion so here I am. I know you're not making a case. I mainly go from my experience having to deal with these requests. Kinda if I'm running a traditional social media page and need to take something off the site. It's still in my database and backups (due to redundancy) but it's off my site. Now that's in a centralized case. In a decentralized case, there's what, 400+ witnesses? They all have servers synced to various levels and there could be servers syncing and not broadcasting. It's not the avenue a prosecutor would take -- it's a waste of their time. Just like right now I'm trying to deal with the phishing domains. I know I can't get the site deleted so I'm going after the registrars, which is a lot more centralized than some site that can be hosted anywhere and mirrored ten times over. When you attack your enemy you take the easiest route, not the hardest.
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