RE: Message to @haejin and @ranchorelaxo + Flag Targets by haejin

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· @haejin · (edited)
$79.10
You tried before to censor my content via an ill composed open letter trying to dictate what I can and can't post. And yet here you are trying again to censor on votes. You're basically threatening me...giving me an ultimatum saying that IF I don't comply to your requirements, YOU will attack. BTW, I have been up voting others and if you didn’t even bother to check before threatening, it’s your bad error.

Have you considered that such self directed censorship initiatives can cause the exit of one of Steemit’s biggest investor? How exactly does a censorship forced exit of $1.45 Mil help Steemit? Better yet, have you also considered how censorship prevented the potential doubling or triple of the $1.45 Mil investment? Do you even realize that your type of censorship is actually driving away investments?

Meanwhile, here is just a small sample of **your** self upvotes of **your own comments**. I self upvote as a protective moat against the trolls and haters downvoting. What is your reason?
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmPA8L1XE9Nhfy5y9M4JLrCrH584xBtcSPsxdde94ahGPc/image.png)

If you can compell @done and his posse as well as @fulltimegeek to lay off their downvotes on the day seven posts, I’ll have a greater reason to reduce my **protective** self upvotes. The trolls and haters like you force me to carry out the protective upvotes!

**ANY post of mine that is made invisble or heavily downvoted will be rightfully reposted! I will not succumb to Gustapo type of threats or ultimatums!**
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@yesaye ·
$0.19
>Have you considered that such self directed censorship initiatives can cause the exit of one of Steemit’s biggest investor? 

Bro haejin, *that* sounds like a threat now. :/
We (excluding transisto and company) want you to see that you can be an amazing contributor to Steemit and STEEM by helping in other ways, while helping interested investors via your TA also.
See man, not a lot of people are being **directly** helped by your TAs, you gotta admit that. Sure, it is probably a great investment advice (im shit in economics lol) and I commend you for sharing your knowledge on the subject. 
You may be earning a lot of money from the so-called (by people) 'easy' analyses BUT, you *are* still trying to help; albeit in your own way. Right? Yeah, I know it.

See haejin, it's good that you and @ranchorelaxo have invested so much of your time, energy and attention into the Steemit platform. I truly and honestly appreciate that (unlike the many ungrateful cucks on steemit, not you transisto pls dont flag man.)

What I'm trying to say though is that you can also help in other ways, other MORE DIRECT ways.
And **that's** where curating other people's content comes into play. 

Look I know I may seem like an ahole to you; I mean i have no reason to tell you what to do, when you seem to be earning so much more than me (which obviously means you're doing something right, and im not xD) lol

I'm only requesting; requesting you to consider upvoting a LOT more *varied* people (legit content creators), and good people - good creators, artists (yes, even them, even when they aren't stock market related), writers and more.

That being said,

## Thanks for your time and attention.

(If only I put so much effort into creating full fledged posts on my blog, eh? lol)

# Also, @done is a huge motherfucking cunt who downvoted one of my posts that was about a logo I made for decentmemes. hey @done cunt, can you not fucking speak and tell me the reason for that flag, you bitch? 
# Tell me the reason for flagging that post of mine, which had barely earned more than $1.5 you heart-less cuck. 
# Now go downvote [this comment of mine](https://steemit.com/mondaymemedump/@nationalpark/re-yesaye-monday-meme-dump-3-feat-onstellar-20180416t154943017z#@yesaye/re-nationalpark-re-yesaye-monday-meme-dump-3-feat-onstellar-20180416t165815710z) that recently earned $10. 
# DO IT, you spineless, bullying fuck; show us your true color, you Pussy Ass Bitch. Do it and you'll literally be done cunt. (yeah bernie, stole this gold from ya, i liked it alright?)
# Consider this a threat in case you continue with that behavior of being a bullying scum. Now let's see if you reply to this with the reason for flagging or pussy away and flag flag flag like you always do you little shit. 

# lmao ded
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@yesaye ·
The first quote probably doesn't sound like a threat initially, but it does when you know how to read between the lines.
Cheers.
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@haejin ·
$0.64
I have been upvoting others! More can happen IF the haters lay off the downvotes on my posts; forcing me to make protective self upvotes!
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@yesaye ·
$0.05
I see.
I'll check the users you've been upvoting too btw, I hope I'll find positive results. :)
Thanks for replying haejin, much appreciated again!
(Sorry for being a cunt to you in the past, if I ever was ahahaha!)

Also, once you do start voting a **variety** of users, I'm pretty sure the flagging will stop by itself; the key word being "varied users" though. So it cannot be your friends and family. I know, it's kinda tough but c'mon man, gotta help others sometimes out too without any expectations you know? :/ :D

If the flagging doesn't stop even after you continue to genuinely support varied users, then do not worry about it man. Leave it to me. I'll roast the fuck out of anyone who dares flag ya.

But remember: varied users! ;)

Cheers man.
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@steemit-abuse · (edited)
No longer supporting #SteemFlagRewards. They did not like what we provided for them.
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@tuvokhl · (edited)
$0.96
You dont get it.
I can downvote you whenever i want.
Your stupid "protection" selfupvote is just not usefull if you do it right in the dark.

You can protection selfupvote if you have to eat a downvote. 
But now i downvote this because its overvalued.

Got it?

Who cares about 1,45Million leaving the space.
Only you care because you benefit the most!
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@haejin ·
All I can do is SMILE!
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@tuvokhl ·
Punching others in the face because you got hurt somewhere else and telling about selfdefense will be not excepted by some curt.
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@lyndsaybowes ·
$0.19
@haejin, you try to shift the blame off of yourself by blaming promobots.  You have your own personal promobot, @ranchorelaxo, and that's the problem. You pay for it off of the chain. At least the promobots are transparent unlike you weasels.

Also, promobots distribute STEEM and SBD to tonnes of different accounts. Some will hodl/power up, some will cash out. You get your personal ranchobot to funnel it all to you. How's that power down going? Your 20th time. You and ranchorelaxo are a vacuum, only here to take as much as you can as quickly as possible.

It's really going to end up biting you in the ass one way or the other though. And that's why I smile.
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@yesaye ·
>But now i downvote this because its overvalued.

BS criteria, but blockchain and steemit allows it nonetheless.
Hope EOS fixes this problem. 
# No wonder Steemit and STEEM are crashing, eh @ned?
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@tuvokhl ·
Overvalued is the only criteria.
Because you upvote when its undervalued.
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@dahlsom ·
$0.12
Do you care if content providers that consistently provide content irregardless of the price of Steem leave the platform?  Because not everyone wants to read poems and look at pretty pictures, some would rather get technical updates.  People can see the same updates on YouTube, and @haejin would still make money... but would the platform be better off?
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@ilyastarar · (edited)
You are a stupid parasite who does not add any value to the blockchain. I wish that you fuck off with all your investment and never come back to Steem. You are the major reason why I did not post or remain active on Steem for more than four weeks. 

@Transisto, thank you for standing up. I felt discouraged to be on Steem because of what this Haejin and similar people have done to the platform lately.
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@yesaye ·
>You are the major reason why I did not post or remain active on Steem for more than four weeks.

Are you sure about that?
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@ilyastarar ·
Yes. Quite sure.
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@transisto · (edited)
$1.41
> You tried before to censor my content via an ill composed open letter trying to dictate what I can and can't post.

The [letter](https://steemit.com/abuse/@transisto/open-letter-to-ranchorelaxo-and-haejin) wasn't about what you can and can't post it was what I would flag first. 
Communicating with you is not censorship, flagging below zero could be seen as a form of censorship but anyway I'm way past the point of wanting to waste vote power to upvote your overly-flagged (censored) posts. 

> And yet here you are trying again to censor on votes. You're basically threatening me...giving me an ultimatum saying that IF I don't comply to your requirements, YOU will attack. 

There is no ultimatum, it has already started yesterday.

> BTW, I have been up voting others and if you didn’t even bother to check before threatening, it’s your bad error.

You self-voted yourself with 91.5% of your voting power while @rachorelaxo upvoted you with 98.5% of his in the last 14 days.

> Have you considered that such self directed censorship initiatives can cause the exit of one of Steemit’s biggest investor? How exactly does a censorship forced exit of $1.45 Mil help Steemit? Better yet, have you also considered how censorship prevented the potential doubling or triple of the $1.45 Mil investment? Do you even realize that your type of censorship is actually driving away investments?

**One of the reason why Steem is valuable is precisely because there is a built in mechanism that allow people to counter overzealous voting behaviors like your and @Ranchorelaxo's. It require both investment and sacrifice to be able to counter votes and what is being countered of @Rachorelaxo vote is increasing the influence of every other token holders over the reward.**

> Meanwhile, here is just a small sample of your self upvotes of your own comments.

It's not a small sample, you cherry picked only the comments that I self-upvoted out of many more. Worry not, I will not be self-voting more than you do as I just committed to flagging you once a day.
BTW my self-voting rate for the 12 days you're showing is ~9%.

While you're talking about my selfvotes why not have a deeper look at them like [this one](https://steemit.com/steemit/@cryptovestor/critical-analysis-of-steem-and-why-i-m-invested#@transisto/re-cryptovestor-critical-analysis-of-steem-and-why-i-m-invested-20180409t235435618z). I upvoted almost every of Cryptovestor previous video and upvoted this specific one with one full @promobot vote for free. Maybe that's part of the reason why he bothered to make a positive Steem specific video for his 149k real Youtube followers.

> I self upvote as a protective moat against the trolls and haters downvoting. What is your reason?

Your're conveniently twisting the order of events, people flag you because you were self-voting too much for what they think you contribute to Steem.

> If you can compell @done and his posse as well as @fulltimegeek to lay off their downvotes on the day seven posts, I’ll have a greater reason to reduce my protective self upvotes. 

I have no affiliation with @done or @fulltimegeek, but I think it would make sense for them to prioritize flagging post that they can suppress near zero. What they do afterward with the rest of their SP is between you and them.

> The trolls and haters like you force me to carry out the protective upvotes!

Stop with the bullshit!

> ANY post of mine that is made invisble or heavily downvoted will be rightfully reposted! 

You can do whatever you want with your content, our goal in the end is to fully counter a threshold fraction of @ranchorelaxo selfish voting so we will adapt accordingly.

> I will not succumb to Gustapo type of threats or ultimatums!

Are you really comparing non-aggressive activities on an open blockchain with Nazism?
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@ilyastarar ·
$0.14
He's an idiot. I won't be surprised if he turns out to be an inhumane criminal of the highest order because I don't find any shame in him. I do not expect a response from him on your comment; not a valid one at least.
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@dahlsom ·
$0.11
to whom do you refer?
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@thabiggdogg ·
https://steemit.com/@thabiggdogg/found-ranchorelaxo-s-bitshares-account
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https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/ranchorelaxo2017

https://cryptofresh.com/u/ranchorelaxo2017


4/22/2018 Currently Worth At 0.26 a share: $5,660,146.0422

$5.6 Million FUCKING DOLLARS!!! That's OUR STEEMIT MONEY that has been scammed!!!
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@dj123 · (edited)
$0.34
<h3>@transisto, I'm just going to ask a simple question.... if @haejin and @ranchorelaxo upvote others 20%

<sub></sub>
and self-upvote 80%....would you then stop your flagging?

I've calculated the numbers, at max 80% abuse....we can still grow (CURRENTLY!.....this remains true...... unless the likes of the selfless ones who self-upvote 1-2% like @kevinwong starts self-upvoting 100% then we're all goners.........and yes, I'm even factoring in witnesses who can't self-upvote 100% cause their reputation is at stakes, and Orca/Whales who have big delegation entrusted to them so they too can't self-upvote 100%).......and i can and will prove to both you, @haejin and @ranchorelaxo if you care

and as an added bonus, at 20% upvoting others.....now all the flaggers and enthusiast will have power to flag all the other 81%-100% self-upvoters, it's a working balance that really will be a 

BIG WIN For the Flaggers too!

and 

It Saves Face and Still Sustainable for Steem for the big fishes who already have the self-upvote habits


and who knows....maybe they may like upvoting others a little extra 5-10% once in a while (25%-30% total upvote of others) say  on good weeks or on happy days when Steem price goes up......nice? 
 

Ok.....point is, we gotta start somewhere right.....we all had our very first click on follow on someone we like, I honestly think @haejin will find random followings that he can support an easy 20% if given the chance</h3>
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@dj123 · (edited)
$0.04
**For the Record....I Have Upvote Both @transisto and @haejin 20% each**
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@yesaye ·
+1
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@idikuci ·
$0.09
I would be in shock. But @trafalgar upvotes himself more and doesn't receive any flack for it. Actually he gets the support of other whales...

While I'm not a fan of flagging people and would rather see encouraging upvotes. It's nice to see that you chase these guys.
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@freebornangel ·
$0.13
Ah, but traf is a golden boy, dont you know?
He can do no wrong.
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@thabiggdogg ·
https://steemit.com/@thabiggdogg/found-ranchorelaxo-s-bitshares-account
# I FOUND OUR STEEMIT MONEY
Account Opened December 19, 2017. @BernieSanders started the #FlagWars on December 20, 2017, because of @RanchoRelaxo's huge upvotes for @Haejin. Haejin & Rancho thought they could hide all this money. I found it. Now get it back. It belongs to us. The good people of STEEMIT!!! It belongs to all the people he FLAGGED over & over. @NED what are you going to do about this?

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/ranchorelaxo2017

https://cryptofresh.com/u/ranchorelaxo2017


4/22/2018 Currently Worth At 0.26 a share: $5,660,146.0422

$5.6 Million FUCKING DOLLARS!!! That's OUR STEEMIT MONEY that has been scammed!!!
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@steemit-abuse · (edited)
No longer supporting #SteemFlagRewards. They did not like what we provided for them.
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@inertia ·
$35.06
> You tried before to censor my content via an ill composed open letter trying to dictate what I can and can't post.

Removal of incentive is not censorship.  It's kinda interesting that you don't realize this.
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@haejin ·
His message is! Read for Christ sake the content before you put out a baffoon comment!
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@inertia ·
$1.52
I am using standard, widely received definitions.  You are resorting to name calling instead of addressing my point.  You are not making yourself look very good, sir.
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@dahlsom ·
$0.22
Telling a person how many posts to post, or how to use their votes is censorship.  As is downvoting posts until they don't display.  In general, if you are trying to force behaviour it is censorship even if it's by negative reinforcement.  They are censoring his voting behaviour.
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@mejustandrew ·
I have made my point [here](https://steemit.com/steem/@mejustandrew/my-final-pleading-for-the-good-of-steem). If you care about your investment, you better read it. Also, for anybody reading, don't hesitate to share opinions.
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@lyndsaybowes ·
$0.69
No one is censoring you, or even really denting your earnings.  You make 3000 USD per day here, all from one promobot, your own personal one @ranchorelaxo, who gave you everything you have.  Stop trying to get pity.
πŸ‘  ,
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