Message to @haejin and @ranchorelaxo + Flag Targets by transisto

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· @transisto · (edited)
$45.53
Message to @haejin and @ranchorelaxo + Flag Targets
Posted here: https://steemit.com/req/@haejin/request-network-req-higher-highs-in-macd-and-price#@transisto/re-haejin-request-network-req-higher-highs-in-macd-and-price-20180416t100917130z

> @Haejin and @ranchorelaxo, Please consider sharing one or two vote a day to support the growth of Steem (indirectly it's price).   Realize that the people flagging you are **very experienced and knowledgeable** about Steem's ecosystem and instead voting toward supporting growth and development initiatives we are wasting our power trying to send you a message.

> Should you reduce your self-voting by one or two votes a day and reward instead some of what you think could have the greatest impact, we would all win.

> I therefor commit to wasting a full vote from both @promobot and @transisto on one or two of you posts every day until you start sharing.

> Please talk to @ranchorelaxo if you have to or produce less  pieces of content per day.

> If you're looking for suggestions on what initiatives to support I'm available to talk on discord.
> Thank you.


## @FlagTarget will resteem @haejin 8th 9th and 10th post of the day as target to be flagged. If you would like to contribute please follow @flagtarget and flag the lowest ones first.
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@abdulmanan ·
It will be great for the community if they consider your suggestion.
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@himshweta ·
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These guys are supporting each other and minnows like us spend so much quality and efforts on their posts and go unnoticed 😢

It really hurts 😞

[![IMG_0024.PNG](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmQQ4JE6EvTfST8MaZ2aJSUT1j4UoDvCQvAW9kU3M25qYV)](https://steemit.com/fiction/@himshweta/11-4-the-microcosmic-human-an-original-fiction-series-part-3)
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@olawalium ·
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Exactly. 
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@yesaye ·
Don't worry himshweta, you'll get the well deserved support soon. All of the minnows too.
Once we put an end to this flag war though, alright?
Atb.
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@himshweta ·
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I hope so.
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@smokeasare165 ·
I guess is a wonderful agreement... @transisto..(i mean no harm in writing this comment)
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@olawalium ·
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If only they would heed, it would be better for us all. Reducing their posts a day, or better still, voting others would surely help a lot. I have seen lot of people with massive voting power, sharing it round, not because they don't self upvote, but they spread it as much as they do self upvote. Hoarding it all to oneself is doing damage to the ecosystem. I respect the fact they laboured to get there, Yes, but every little bit for the ecosystem that has given so much to You, doesn't hurt either. I hope they listen and help us all. Well done.
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@valued-customer ·
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>"If only they would heed, it would be better for us all."

How?  It would remove the incentive to fix the problem that @haejin demonstrates is in the code.  

I strongly disagree, and hope @haejin never changes course as long as the code remains designed to deliver the vast majority of rewards to those accounts that already have the most money in them.

If @haejin doesn't force them to change the code so that rewards are more fairly distributed, nothing will.  If @haejin backs down, the demonstration of the inequitable distribution will no longer be visible.  That won't fix the code.  It will simply make the inequitable distribution harder to spot.  

That would reduce the pressure on Stinc and the witnesses to actually fix the problem.

I actually see that those trying to convince @haejin to make the system look like it's fair as an attempt to maintain the status quo--which is concentrating rewards at an accelerating pace in the accounts of those with the most SP, and continually shrinking the rewards shared by the minnows.

That is the bad thing for Steemit, Steem, and all the minnows.
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@obaidb2 · (edited)
That is what everyone wants ... @haejin & @ranchorelaxo never do that...they only know how to rape reward pool...that is what they have been doing and that is what they will do....
It has been hapeening for years now...hope they will react on the message you want to convey...
### Guess Can of greed never gets filled
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@valued-customer ·
LOL

How many years has it been going on?
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@obaidb2 ·
Since steemit was born...doesnt that feel like years...
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@danpaulson ·
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Haejin received the first RR vote in December... these shills get so emotional about a story they've been told, and repeat it without ever looking into it.
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@thabiggdogg ·
You got downvoted by Haejin's other account. He is acting like he stopped downvoting us. But he is using his other account again to give us flags. He is both @Haejin & @StarJuno.
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@trendo ·
Well, yeah it's quite sad that there's so many votes being used to flag these trash posts, but it has to be done to clean the place up. Hopefully something will change and those trash posters will at least give out upvotes for the community so everyone could benefit.
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@sulev ·
I'm sure he doesn't care.
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@hanen ·
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I was following this flagging war from the beginning, but didnt realize what was it really about. Now I started to understand the main problem.
You are absolutely right! We need to reward as we are getting rewarded to keep it going. We need more Dolphins here than Whales and Minnows to succeed all of us.
Hopefully everybody would understand the real purpose of this platform :)
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@intellihandling ·
Hi @hanen, i see you could be right person to answer to my post question: https://steemit.com/steemit/@intellihandling/what-curators-are-doing-for-me
So these curators what for take those coins if only few people combat against this abuse?
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@hanen ·
I think it is happening because you dont have enough SP.
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@yesaye ·
That was a shameless promotion. 
But fine. lmao
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@dj123 ·
$0.05
> We need to reward as we are getting rewarded to keep it going. 
>We need more Dolphins here than Whales and Minnows to succeed all of us.
>Hopefully everybody would understand the real purpose of this platform :)

like your comment, following you now
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@hanen ·
$0.40
Thank you, I am following you too :)
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@bijoy80812 ·
😊Thanks💌 your post💝
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@adenijiadeshina ·
You are really right about what you said about "consider sharing one or two vote a day to support the growth of Steem (indirectly it's price)." At least it will help the steemit community.  I hope your suggestion can be examine and put into action
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@rowdi ·
Right
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@tigerplus ·
wo ....good thinking
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@joelgonz1982 ·
to this person as he does not pay attention to anyone, he continues with the same thing every day without caring about anything.
the effort that they make every day @berniesanders, @nextgencrypto and company, is fierce since it loses all its power in the publications of @haejin, in my opinion this character is doing all this with bad intentions and it will be said, someday people are going to tire and leave me alone.
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@valued-customer ·
$0.08
>"...he does not pay attention to anyone, he continues with the same thing every day..."

This isn't true.  He has shown that he is aware of much more than he comments or reacts to.  I can prove that if you require.  He does do things each day, and some of those things don't change, because his goals haven't changed, and the route to achievement doesn't change.

It is silly to say that just because he doesn't do as he is told that he is ignorant of being told.

He just doesn't agree, nor obey.  That's not an indication that he doesn't care, or isn't aware.
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@joelgonz1982 ·
$0.06
I know that Haejin is aware of what you are doing, but an intelligent person sees this kind of problem, should try to find a quick solution. and I've noticed that the problem takes months with it.
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@taskmaster4450 ·
A reasonable request...and approached in a constructive manner.  I am not sure it will be received in such a way.
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@valued-customer ·
Given that the code creates the financial manipulation that @haejin demonstrates openly, and most whales cryptically take advantage of, how is it constructive (from the point of view of minnows) to convince @haejin to conceal those features of the code?
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@infinityroad · (edited)
$0.08
Thank you @transisto for your commitment for steemit and it’s community. 
Minnows don’t have many opportunities to affect something against abuses of the system like we see it here. 
Whales like you don’t have the obligation to do something but the opportunity. 
Thanks for having the right attitude.

A good sign against the problems of this platform!
_voted for visibility_
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@techsurgeio ·
So im a little confused. What's the point of flagging? I thought it was for bad things.
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@schattenjaeger ·
$3.67
Downvoting can be done for any reason. Just like users can upvote for any reason, they can downvote for any reason. Both upvotes and downvotes are simply tools to allocate STEEM from the reward pool. 

The negative stigma surrounding downvoting is one of the biggest problems on Steemit and has to go.
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@valued-customer ·
Good explanation of flagging.

>"The negative stigma surrounding downvoting is one of the biggest problems on Steemit..."

I strongly disagree with this however.  Being flagged is not a positive thing, and it is silly to say that there should be some sort of doublethink that pretends it's not.  It's also silly to say it's one of the biggest problems on Steemit, which has far worse difficulties.

The fact that rewards are being concentrated in the accounts of those with the most SP is a far worse problem for Steemit.  Steemit has a ~10% retention rate YOY, and this is terrible.

Being unhappy when you are flagged isn't a problem.  It's the very reason for flags.  If people weren't unhappy when they were flagged, flags would have no purpose at all.  Flags are supposed to discourage behaviour, and being seen as bad is essential to performing that function.
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@thabiggdogg ·
You will make more money FLAGGING that SCAMMER!!! I guarantee it. Do it for a week & I bet your money increases.
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@decomoescribir · (edited)
$0.38
@heajin: 

> This is why IM CERTAIN that Steem is going to work.

And my point in here is to prove you, that, by helping with a micro-small amount of your voting capacity, you will be even richer in the future.

Before i start...
I know that what @transisto is asking you is kinda unfair. You are acting by the rules, and everything you do is what the board game allows in the platform. Even tho, Steem is actually a community experiment which we are discovering, fixing, improving... along the way. And what the devs achieved is one of the most beautiful things ive seen in the web: incentive allignment: if Steem grows, everyone grows. 

My case...
I have 1,000 SP, and ive being working with the spanish community. In most cases (with the current population), we are capable of having a decent life gaining around 1-7 SBD a week. In my case, with the interest i gain with self-voting, im allowed to hire 3 people, and work with latin collagues, where the sense of belonging and love for steem is INCREDIBLY huge. 

If you get to my account (posts one month old), you can see some of them with .33 reward and 200+ comments, + 300-600 views... ive NEVER found such involvement in ANY other social media, blog or forum in my 6 years working with digital proyects... 

>This is why IM CERTAIN that Steem is going to work.

Of course, theres is a huge difference between what Steem is capable of for the english community, then for the third-world spanish community. Maybe, for some of you, Steem is a good buiseness, a good speculation, whatever... for us, Steem is changing our lives.

What @transisto is asking is kinda unfair (in a way), becouse theres no reason for you to act unselfishly. You doing what the game allows, and theres no reason to be punished for that. But, knowing that the true value of steem lies not in the tech, but in PEOPLE using the tech (us giving our time), and you both, as key members of the this proyect, help EXPLODING the the life-changing possibilties of steem:  in the mid-term, you will be richer... as there are more success cases in this platform, the value will grow, the adoption will increase, and more money will flow in. 

Take me as a true example: If im changing lifes around me having 1,000 SP, Imagine how good you can do and how quick we can expand the word about steem if you give a MINIMUM (3-8%) of your dialy voting power to any good proyect within he spanish community... as for the the english community im still not 100% if steem will be popularized, mass adoption CAN OCURR soon in the multi-million market of spanish speakers around the globe.

Just myself, im bringing around 10 new people EVERY week to Steem... around 7 of them stay really active, 2 or 3 falls deeply in love, and 1 starts to think to devote their time/work/investment to Steem.

>Do you realize how huge this is?

And well, for the whales that migth read this... i do quality content for people that doesnt have too much time to write. If you guys are interested in this, or just speaking about possible collaboration, or maybe would be happy to support, send me an email to: decomoescribir@gmail.com. 

The idea is: by us helping you with quality content, you help the community bringing more value, and you help us by growing even quicker the community.

My name is Daniel Camacho, and im pleased to see many people so passionate about steem. And i thank you @transisto or @haejin, if you made it to read this comment.
Cheers.
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@jordanlove ·
The overfocus on flags from Steemit users is really confusing for anyone viewing the blockchain through another user interface...
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@berniesanders ·
I fully support this and will be **wasting** my voting power daily to assist.
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@travelersmemoire ·
$0.10
What’s the point though?  All that this infighting is doing is dragging Steem down.  After almost a year of flagging nothing has changed.  At some point tactics need to change?
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@berniesanders ·
Should I go back to flagging everyone who comments on his posts?  Or spam with more Kim Jong Un images?  What do you suggest?

You have provided no evidence that this "infighting" is "dragging Steem down".  You think this is worse that the rape he's committing on the rewards pool?
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@valued-customer ·
Please explain how flagging is 'dragging Steem down'.

I note that when whales don't vote, or flag each other, the minnows share of the rewards pool grows.  We get more rewards in either case.

Thanks!
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@yesaye ·
100% bro, 100%. 

^he gets it
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@harpooninvestor ·
$0.11
To fix the system, the witnesses would have to give up their own easy money, and that just isn't going to happen.

@haejin IS Steemit.  He's just the most blatant form of it, it's honestly those of you who think your posts are worth the large amounts you're getting who're in denial.

If you want community, change the system to favor it, don't ask a guy playing by the rules set forth by the de-centralized system to budge.
If anything, he's heading towards owning the reward pool, so he's successfully implementing his "attack" on your code.  

Again, witnesses would have to take their own hits, and their greed won't allow them to change anything. 

Steemit witnesses are @haejin.
@ranchorelaxo is @haejin
We are all @haejin.
@haejin is @steemit
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@valued-customer ·
$0.13
I dunno that I agree 'we are @haejin and @haejin is us' is true, but you are correct that the witnesses and Stinc can fix whatever is perceived to be the problem, but only by eschewing the degree to which they themselves drain rewards.

I do see @haejin as demonstrating quite obviously the problems with extant code.  Whether this is simply his business plan, or is politically motivated I cannot say.  

His actions do hand the ball to Stinc and the witnesses.  It's their move.  Their move has been to do nothing.  That's informative as to their purpose.

Thanks!
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@haejin · (edited)
$0.05
I am Negan! You're Negan! We're all Negans!
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@ssjsasha ·
$4.73
is that a walking dead reference? lol
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@thabiggdogg ·
YOU ARE A FUCKHEAD!!!! That's what you are. A MORON!!!
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@yesaye ·
upvoting this so peeps can enjoy haejin's reply to this. lol
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@pwny ·
$0.11
I think the better approach to this situation is possibly saying " The law is broken" and we need to fix it. If steemit is to prevent certain abuses that overall can maim the steem economy permanently the law must be changed. 
Relying on the good will of humans is not reliable and will not work. That's why we have government and law enforcement.
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@valued-customer ·
$0.02
You're quite correct that @haejin clearly illustrates that the code is designed to deliver the vast majority of rewards to whales, and that this is counter productive to the stated purpose of Steemit.

I think that just as Stinc and the witnesses failure to fix the problem that @haejin demonstrates exists in the code shows that they don't consider the problem a problem, the corruption in government and law enforcement demonstrates the exact same thing.

Corruption is the purpose of law enforcement and government, just as @haejin shows that rewards pool rape is the purpose of Steemit.  That neither is fixed proves this.

Thanks!
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@pwny ·
$0.07
I wonder what would happen if there were professional thieves abusing steemit... oh wait it's an open community. It's like how America's borders are open, certain cultures may pass through that we may be better off without. 
I have been using Steem for a long while now and would enjoy seeing it thrive.
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@yesaye ·
# I think the better approach to this situation is possibly saying 
# " The law is broken" and we need to fix it

<br>
EVERYBODY, read this once. 
Then, read it again. 

Now go shoot yourself in the head lmao
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@isnochys ·
$0.04
The whales are going full circle vote?
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@isnochys ·
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@tuvokhl ·
Thanks for sharing. I flag this haejin too. He will only learn when its 0 for quite some time. There was a lot of talking. Its time for acting.
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@aporna ·
i followed this flagging war from the beginning Now
You're right! We are rewarded as it is
Hope everyone will understand the true purpose of this platform
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@schattenjaeger ·
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I don't see the point. I mean, I understand the intention and I understand the motivation behind this, but there's no reason to expect this to work.

Zero.

Steemit makes haejin and people like him free money. Free money by the truckloads. There's no reason to give up free money. He can make a million by doing nothing at all. There's nothing in the world more attractive than shitloads of free money.

Anyone in his position will never give that up.

haejin is just an extreme embodiment of what Steemit is. It's not about "content", it's not about engagement, social interaction, sharing of information, any of that shit. It's a magic money making machine like the world has never seen. It puts the Federal Reserve to shame.

He is a monster the system created. That is all.

Also, most everybody on this platform would do the exact same thing he's doing if they were in his position. Like I said, free money.

The witnesses here don't give a shit about anything for that exact same reason: free money.

It's simply impossible for the incentives around Steemit to create anything different than what we have here right now.

The whales are busy upvoting their own circle jerks even though they easily collaborate and take down someone like haejin, but why would they? It's more attractive to print free money into your pockets.

Nothing will change. Nothing. Steemit is what it is.
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@transisto ·
If you are 80% right, the remaining 20% that is being shared is creating a ton of real economic activity.
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@haejin · (edited)
$0.08
The real problems are the bots like promobot! The bidbots have zero service value for steemit. And yet, they take >33% of reward pool. You think the community will stay put about the complaints on these bots? The number of anti bot postings are increasing.
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@dj123 ·
interesting choice of numbers @transisto
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@valued-customer ·
$1.24
I am personally grateful for your and other's flags on @haejin.  Please don't stop.  Please convince as many people as possible to join in.

Sorry @haejin, but you and all the other whales are taking too much of the rewards pool without adding value to the platform, and all of us suffer for it.  The flags reduce the extraction of rewards by all those accounts that are over-extracting from the pool.

I also would like to thank @haejin for clearly demonstrating the severity of the present code's bias to rewards whales rather than minnows.  Nothing is more likely to prompt changes to the code that make it more beneficial to all users, rather than simply concentrating wealth in the accounts of the wealthy.

Demonstrating clearly this purpose of the extant code is the best thing that could ever happen to Steem, and is the strongest incentive imaginable to produce changes in the code that will benefit us all.

Please keep flagging whales, guys!  Nothing you could do (that you've shown you're willing to do) will benefit minnows more.

Thanks!
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@haejin · (edited)
$0.11
What about the vote bots? They take 33% or more of daily reward pool! @transisto owns promobot..how much is he raking in everyday?
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@steemit-abuse · (edited)
No longer supporting #SteemFlagRewards. They did not like what we provided for them.
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@transisto ·
Given that the 25% curration reward is being given to the previous voters, about 75% of the returns that you earn from self voting.
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@thabiggdogg · (edited)
Why dont you have the balls to flag @transisto every post he makes money on like you do me? Is it because he has steem power to fuck you up with? You like to FLAG minnows so their voice can't be heard anymore. YOU ARE A FUCKING JOKE!!! Just remember I gave you a chance at PEACE & you ignored me.  YOU FUCKED UP JACKASS!!!
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@valued-customer ·
$3.71
All the votebots get their stake from somewhere.  As you point out.  I am all for whales flagging the votebots too, but they <i>are</i> the votebots.

I have stated, and it's still true, that you don't hurt my rewards, or any minnows, to a measurable degree.  Whales (including you) receive 99% of rewards, and all the minnows share the remaining 1%.  If they managed to take you out somehow (which I am strongly against!!!!) that wouldn't change one bit.  The whales would see their ROI go up by the amount you no longer received, and the minnows would see 1% of that increase: 1% of 5% of the rewards they currently receive.

Today @arcange published his daily stats, and the median payout is .03 SBD.  5% of that is hardly measurable, and 1% of 5% is completely invisible.

The whales are after you, because if they convince you to back off, whatever rewards you no longer receive, they will get.

Don't let them!

PS.  Would it kill you to upvote comments you find relevant enough to reply to?  It's kinda part of the Steemit culture, and I do it.  I realize my votes ain't much, but what I got to use, I do.  Whether you do or not, I'd be interested in your answer to the question.

Also, I've never thanked you personally from defending me from flags in the past.  Others said it was because you were opposing those that flagged me.  Whatever the reason, you defended free speech that day, and I am grateful for that.

Thanks!
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@mikefromtheuk ·
![HaejinTheCunt.jpg](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmbawHHHR4DvzEyaxcQMzRjTMBdQaupjBDpJm9rtUaokL6)
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@thabiggdogg ·
https://steemit.com/@thabiggdogg/found-ranchorelaxo-s-bitshares-account
# I FOUND OUR STEEMIT MONEY
Account Opened December 19, 2017. @BernieSanders started the #FlagWars on December 20, 2017, because of @RanchoRelaxo's huge upvotes for @Haejin. Haejin & Rancho thought they could hide all this money. I found it. Now get it back. It belongs to us. The good people of STEEMIT!!! It belongs to all the people he FLAGGED over & over. @NED what are you going to do about this?

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/ranchorelaxo2017

https://cryptofresh.com/u/ranchorelaxo2017


4/22/2018 Currently Worth At 0.26 a share: $5,660,146.0422

$5.6 Million FUCKING DOLLARS!!! That's OUR STEEMIT MONEY that has been scammed!!!
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@haejin · (edited)
$79.10
You tried before to censor my content via an ill composed open letter trying to dictate what I can and can't post. And yet here you are trying again to censor on votes. You're basically threatening me...giving me an ultimatum saying that IF I don't comply to your requirements, YOU will attack. BTW, I have been up voting others and if you didn’t even bother to check before threatening, it’s your bad error.

Have you considered that such self directed censorship initiatives can cause the exit of one of Steemit’s biggest investor? How exactly does a censorship forced exit of $1.45 Mil help Steemit? Better yet, have you also considered how censorship prevented the potential doubling or triple of the $1.45 Mil investment? Do you even realize that your type of censorship is actually driving away investments?

Meanwhile, here is just a small sample of **your** self upvotes of **your own comments**. I self upvote as a protective moat against the trolls and haters downvoting. What is your reason?
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmPA8L1XE9Nhfy5y9M4JLrCrH584xBtcSPsxdde94ahGPc/image.png)

If you can compell @done and his posse as well as @fulltimegeek to lay off their downvotes on the day seven posts, I’ll have a greater reason to reduce my **protective** self upvotes. The trolls and haters like you force me to carry out the protective upvotes!

**ANY post of mine that is made invisble or heavily downvoted will be rightfully reposted! I will not succumb to Gustapo type of threats or ultimatums!**
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@yesaye ·
$0.19
>Have you considered that such self directed censorship initiatives can cause the exit of one of Steemit’s biggest investor? 

Bro haejin, *that* sounds like a threat now. :/
We (excluding transisto and company) want you to see that you can be an amazing contributor to Steemit and STEEM by helping in other ways, while helping interested investors via your TA also.
See man, not a lot of people are being **directly** helped by your TAs, you gotta admit that. Sure, it is probably a great investment advice (im shit in economics lol) and I commend you for sharing your knowledge on the subject. 
You may be earning a lot of money from the so-called (by people) 'easy' analyses BUT, you *are* still trying to help; albeit in your own way. Right? Yeah, I know it.

See haejin, it's good that you and @ranchorelaxo have invested so much of your time, energy and attention into the Steemit platform. I truly and honestly appreciate that (unlike the many ungrateful cucks on steemit, not you transisto pls dont flag man.)

What I'm trying to say though is that you can also help in other ways, other MORE DIRECT ways.
And **that's** where curating other people's content comes into play. 

Look I know I may seem like an ahole to you; I mean i have no reason to tell you what to do, when you seem to be earning so much more than me (which obviously means you're doing something right, and im not xD) lol

I'm only requesting; requesting you to consider upvoting a LOT more *varied* people (legit content creators), and good people - good creators, artists (yes, even them, even when they aren't stock market related), writers and more.

That being said,

## Thanks for your time and attention.

(If only I put so much effort into creating full fledged posts on my blog, eh? lol)

# Also, @done is a huge motherfucking cunt who downvoted one of my posts that was about a logo I made for decentmemes. hey @done cunt, can you not fucking speak and tell me the reason for that flag, you bitch? 
# Tell me the reason for flagging that post of mine, which had barely earned more than $1.5 you heart-less cuck. 
# Now go downvote [this comment of mine](https://steemit.com/mondaymemedump/@nationalpark/re-yesaye-monday-meme-dump-3-feat-onstellar-20180416t154943017z#@yesaye/re-nationalpark-re-yesaye-monday-meme-dump-3-feat-onstellar-20180416t165815710z) that recently earned $10. 
# DO IT, you spineless, bullying fuck; show us your true color, you Pussy Ass Bitch. Do it and you'll literally be done cunt. (yeah bernie, stole this gold from ya, i liked it alright?)
# Consider this a threat in case you continue with that behavior of being a bullying scum. Now let's see if you reply to this with the reason for flagging or pussy away and flag flag flag like you always do you little shit. 

# lmao ded
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@yesaye ·
The first quote probably doesn't sound like a threat initially, but it does when you know how to read between the lines.
Cheers.
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@haejin ·
$0.64
I have been upvoting others! More can happen IF the haters lay off the downvotes on my posts; forcing me to make protective self upvotes!
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@tuvokhl · (edited)
$0.96
You dont get it.
I can downvote you whenever i want.
Your stupid "protection" selfupvote is just not usefull if you do it right in the dark.

You can protection selfupvote if you have to eat a downvote. 
But now i downvote this because its overvalued.

Got it?

Who cares about 1,45Million leaving the space.
Only you care because you benefit the most!
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@haejin ·
All I can do is SMILE!
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@yesaye ·
>But now i downvote this because its overvalued.

BS criteria, but blockchain and steemit allows it nonetheless.
Hope EOS fixes this problem. 
# No wonder Steemit and STEEM are crashing, eh @ned?
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@dahlsom ·
$0.12
Do you care if content providers that consistently provide content irregardless of the price of Steem leave the platform?  Because not everyone wants to read poems and look at pretty pictures, some would rather get technical updates.  People can see the same updates on YouTube, and @haejin would still make money... but would the platform be better off?
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@ilyastarar · (edited)
You are a stupid parasite who does not add any value to the blockchain. I wish that you fuck off with all your investment and never come back to Steem. You are the major reason why I did not post or remain active on Steem for more than four weeks. 

@Transisto, thank you for standing up. I felt discouraged to be on Steem because of what this Haejin and similar people have done to the platform lately.
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@yesaye ·
>You are the major reason why I did not post or remain active on Steem for more than four weeks.

Are you sure about that?
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@transisto · (edited)
$1.41
> You tried before to censor my content via an ill composed open letter trying to dictate what I can and can't post.

The [letter](https://steemit.com/abuse/@transisto/open-letter-to-ranchorelaxo-and-haejin) wasn't about what you can and can't post it was what I would flag first. 
Communicating with you is not censorship, flagging below zero could be seen as a form of censorship but anyway I'm way past the point of wanting to waste vote power to upvote your overly-flagged (censored) posts. 

> And yet here you are trying again to censor on votes. You're basically threatening me...giving me an ultimatum saying that IF I don't comply to your requirements, YOU will attack. 

There is no ultimatum, it has already started yesterday.

> BTW, I have been up voting others and if you didn’t even bother to check before threatening, it’s your bad error.

You self-voted yourself with 91.5% of your voting power while @rachorelaxo upvoted you with 98.5% of his in the last 14 days.

> Have you considered that such self directed censorship initiatives can cause the exit of one of Steemit’s biggest investor? How exactly does a censorship forced exit of $1.45 Mil help Steemit? Better yet, have you also considered how censorship prevented the potential doubling or triple of the $1.45 Mil investment? Do you even realize that your type of censorship is actually driving away investments?

**One of the reason why Steem is valuable is precisely because there is a built in mechanism that allow people to counter overzealous voting behaviors like your and @Ranchorelaxo's. It require both investment and sacrifice to be able to counter votes and what is being countered of @Rachorelaxo vote is increasing the influence of every other token holders over the reward.**

> Meanwhile, here is just a small sample of your self upvotes of your own comments.

It's not a small sample, you cherry picked only the comments that I self-upvoted out of many more. Worry not, I will not be self-voting more than you do as I just committed to flagging you once a day.
BTW my self-voting rate for the 12 days you're showing is ~9%.

While you're talking about my selfvotes why not have a deeper look at them like [this one](https://steemit.com/steemit/@cryptovestor/critical-analysis-of-steem-and-why-i-m-invested#@transisto/re-cryptovestor-critical-analysis-of-steem-and-why-i-m-invested-20180409t235435618z). I upvoted almost every of Cryptovestor previous video and upvoted this specific one with one full @promobot vote for free. Maybe that's part of the reason why he bothered to make a positive Steem specific video for his 149k real Youtube followers.

> I self upvote as a protective moat against the trolls and haters downvoting. What is your reason?

Your're conveniently twisting the order of events, people flag you because you were self-voting too much for what they think you contribute to Steem.

> If you can compell @done and his posse as well as @fulltimegeek to lay off their downvotes on the day seven posts, I’ll have a greater reason to reduce my protective self upvotes. 

I have no affiliation with @done or @fulltimegeek, but I think it would make sense for them to prioritize flagging post that they can suppress near zero. What they do afterward with the rest of their SP is between you and them.

> The trolls and haters like you force me to carry out the protective upvotes!

Stop with the bullshit!

> ANY post of mine that is made invisble or heavily downvoted will be rightfully reposted! 

You can do whatever you want with your content, our goal in the end is to fully counter a threshold fraction of @ranchorelaxo selfish voting so we will adapt accordingly.

> I will not succumb to Gustapo type of threats or ultimatums!

Are you really comparing non-aggressive activities on an open blockchain with Nazism?
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@ilyastarar ·
$0.14
He's an idiot. I won't be surprised if he turns out to be an inhumane criminal of the highest order because I don't find any shame in him. I do not expect a response from him on your comment; not a valid one at least.
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@dj123 · (edited)
$0.34
<h3>@transisto, I'm just going to ask a simple question.... if @haejin and @ranchorelaxo upvote others 20%

<sub></sub>
and self-upvote 80%....would you then stop your flagging?

I've calculated the numbers, at max 80% abuse....we can still grow (CURRENTLY!.....this remains true...... unless the likes of the selfless ones who self-upvote 1-2% like @kevinwong starts self-upvoting 100% then we're all goners.........and yes, I'm even factoring in witnesses who can't self-upvote 100% cause their reputation is at stakes, and Orca/Whales who have big delegation entrusted to them so they too can't self-upvote 100%).......and i can and will prove to both you, @haejin and @ranchorelaxo if you care

and as an added bonus, at 20% upvoting others.....now all the flaggers and enthusiast will have power to flag all the other 81%-100% self-upvoters, it's a working balance that really will be a 

BIG WIN For the Flaggers too!

and 

It Saves Face and Still Sustainable for Steem for the big fishes who already have the self-upvote habits


and who knows....maybe they may like upvoting others a little extra 5-10% once in a while (25%-30% total upvote of others) say  on good weeks or on happy days when Steem price goes up......nice? 
 

Ok.....point is, we gotta start somewhere right.....we all had our very first click on follow on someone we like, I honestly think @haejin will find random followings that he can support an easy 20% if given the chance</h3>
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@idikuci ·
$0.09
I would be in shock. But @trafalgar upvotes himself more and doesn't receive any flack for it. Actually he gets the support of other whales...

While I'm not a fan of flagging people and would rather see encouraging upvotes. It's nice to see that you chase these guys.
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@thabiggdogg ·
https://steemit.com/@thabiggdogg/found-ranchorelaxo-s-bitshares-account
# I FOUND OUR STEEMIT MONEY
Account Opened December 19, 2017. @BernieSanders started the #FlagWars on December 20, 2017, because of @RanchoRelaxo's huge upvotes for @Haejin. Haejin & Rancho thought they could hide all this money. I found it. Now get it back. It belongs to us. The good people of STEEMIT!!! It belongs to all the people he FLAGGED over & over. @NED what are you going to do about this?

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/ranchorelaxo2017

https://cryptofresh.com/u/ranchorelaxo2017


4/22/2018 Currently Worth At 0.26 a share: $5,660,146.0422

$5.6 Million FUCKING DOLLARS!!! That's OUR STEEMIT MONEY that has been scammed!!!
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@steemit-abuse · (edited)
No longer supporting #SteemFlagRewards. They did not like what we provided for them.
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@inertia ·
$35.06
> You tried before to censor my content via an ill composed open letter trying to dictate what I can and can't post.

Removal of incentive is not censorship.  It's kinda interesting that you don't realize this.
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@haejin ·
His message is! Read for Christ sake the content before you put out a baffoon comment!
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@dahlsom ·
$0.22
Telling a person how many posts to post, or how to use their votes is censorship.  As is downvoting posts until they don't display.  In general, if you are trying to force behaviour it is censorship even if it's by negative reinforcement.  They are censoring his voting behaviour.
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@mejustandrew ·
I have made my point [here](https://steemit.com/steem/@mejustandrew/my-final-pleading-for-the-good-of-steem). If you care about your investment, you better read it. Also, for anybody reading, don't hesitate to share opinions.
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@lyndsaybowes ·
$0.69
No one is censoring you, or even really denting your earnings.  You make 3000 USD per day here, all from one promobot, your own personal one @ranchorelaxo, who gave you everything you have.  Stop trying to get pity.
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@randohealer ·
# Wololo!

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@randohealer ·
# Wololo!

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@vimukthi ·
$1.02
__I made this comment on another post and it probably didn't get your attention. So I'm posting it again and this time with a self-vote for visibility.__

>@Haejin and @ranchorelaxo, Please consider sharing one or two vote a day to support the growth of Steem (indirectly it's price)

I'm 100% with you on this.

>Should you reduce your self-voting by one or two votes a day and reward instead some of what you think could have the greatest impact, we would all win.

Agreed.

But here is a question. What about people who are doing ridiculous self-upvotes and/or circle-jerks that doesn't happen to be @haejin or @ranchorelaxo ? What about them?

I think the only real solution is a protocol level change. We can already calculate how much % of each person's VP has gone to each account. So what if we code the blockchain to burn the additional rewards generated when 1 account uses more than X % of all votes on a single account. 

Nobody's voting patterns are not going to be affected. The posts would also gain high visibility. When rewards are burnt the STEEM inflation goes down and everybody benefits without affecting any of the ongoing behavior. Eventually voters will decide if they want to upvote authors purely for visibility instead of giving them rewards and getting curation or whether they want to spread their votes among few people.

This method requires additional work from the devs. But it's fair for everybody. You are taking actions against @haejin because he is visible. Dolphines may manage to do the same without being noticed much. You can only keep an eye on few whales. Whales do have the highest impact. But if they are th only ones getting fingers pointed at, you are doing blockchain wrong. In blockchain __Code is law as code is unbiased and affects all universally in the same manner; objectively.__ 

So have a chat with the witnesses and the devs. Put a simple cap and everybody can go back to minding their own businesses and engage in positive actions :-)
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@dera123 ·
$0.08
The idea of adding a voting limit is good but won't stop the circle jerks because you just have to create more accounts and divide the votes between them to counter it. 
And btw. there are also many more problems on Steem, multi account abusers, copy/paste upvote farmer and so on and the problem with them is that they are harder to spot than for example haejin and his one man upvote army/personal investor (who for example wouldn't do any impact to Steem when leaving just because well all he does is upvoting haejin) 

The problem is that Steem (at the current state) needs a lot of active regulation to stop abuse because it has no real passive mechanism to counter them well atm it has many mechanisms which are benefiting abusers ...
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@yesaye ·
>What about people who are doing ridiculous self-upvotes and/or circle-jerks that doesn't happen to be @haejin or @ranchorelaxo ? What about them?

Great question man. About time people opened their eyes as well eh?
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@dianaclark ·
Oh no.Here who has selfish?
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@commentetiquette ·
I'm sorry that you feel the need to show everyone your dick in order to feel wanted.
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@jga ·
Hi @transisto, I think we need to add changes to the protocol of Steem. I just published a [proposal to reduce self-voting and voting-rings]((https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@jga/steem-proposal-to-reduce-voting-rings-and-self-voting)), maybe you are interested.
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@brandonk ·
It's really disgusting how far this has gone... it's like watching steemit burn slowly
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@thabiggdogg ·
https://steemit.com/@thabiggdogg/found-ranchorelaxo-s-bitshares-account
# I FOUND OUR STEEMIT MONEY
Account Opened December 19, 2017. @BernieSanders started the #FlagWars on December 20, 2017, because of @RanchoRelaxo's huge upvotes for @Haejin. Haejin & Rancho thought they could hide all this money. I found it. Now get it back. It belongs to us. The good people of STEEMIT!!! It belongs to all the people he FLAGGED over & over. @NED what are you going to do about this?

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/ranchorelaxo2017

https://cryptofresh.com/u/ranchorelaxo2017


4/22/2018 Currently Worth At 0.26 a share: $5,660,146.0422

$5.6 Million FUCKING DOLLARS!!! That's OUR STEEMIT MONEY that has been scammed!!!
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@tigerplus ·
Good post
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