RE: Anarchy Misunderstood by jacobtothe

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· @jacobtothe ·
You say, "40,000 people die each year," that these deaths are preventable, the way to prevent them is a government monopoly in health care, and therefore disagreement is either selfishness or misanthropy.

Let's assume your numbers are accurate, just for the sake of argument, and that there is no cause for these deaths beyond medical access restrictions due to costs.

First, I do not say the status quo is good. I have repeatedly pointed out that the status quo is the destructive consequence of political plunder and corporate collusion in oposition the market process. You refuse to grasp this very important and very real distinction.

Second, there is ample evidence that market processes do reduce costs right now. Want links to clinics and doctors discussing the matter? Prescription medications, checkups, and even outpatient surgery costs plummet when the bureaucratoc bloat is lifted even with all the collusion in the background. We also have historical evidence of.voluntary solutions including doctors setting aside pro bono time, mutual aid societies funding health care pools, and charitable organizations.

Third, you have not addressed the economic calculation problem of governments and monopolies. It is real. You can't hand-wave it away.

Fourth, you started by saying ancaps are fake anarchists, and now you are defending a government monopoly funded by extortion while trying to claim the moral high ground? Why should I want to place one of the most important services for my well-being under the total control of the liars, thieves, and crooks in government?

Fifth, it is dirty pool to attack the person instead of their arguments. You continue to attack your perception of my motivations instead of addressing anything I have actually written.
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@cyberdemon531 ·
the status quo is EXACTLY what you support, because we live in a "market anarchist" world where the rich buy those with power and manipulate them to do their dirty work. The only real difference is in your fantasy minecraft server, there wouldnt be laws like the civil rights act or voting rights act. thats it. thats the only difference. 

Again, the best health outcomes are in nations with government funded healthcare. you cannot argue against that, so you just resort to abstract "theory". we have data, you choose not to look at it, and then present your homicidal and murderous worldview down others throats like a dipshit who has never lost a loved one due to this system that affects millions of families.  
  
You're living in a FANTASY WORLD.

Look up Britain's NHS and look at how many people there are that are alive today because of it. 

You're an idiot who doesn't look at data. Anarchism isn't about dissolving the government tomorrow it's about reaching equality for all. We aren't playing minecraft, stop larping. 

You will NOT destroy the government, it's fantasy talk. We can use the government to return rights to the people and develop a stateless society over time during the next tech boom, but instead you want to play hunter gatherer minecraft edition and it shows how stupid you are and how you lack any and all empathy or concern for other people.

disgusting, unless you want to talk on discord and have a real debate, i'm done responding to you. Serial killer attitudes are just fucking gross and stupid. You have no sense of history and know literally nothing about economics. stupid stupid stupid. 
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