RE: BidBots - THEY DO NOT DRAIN THE STEEM REWARDPOOL! by whatsup

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· @whatsup · (edited)
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I don't think you understand the system.  The blockchain is programmed to be a stake based system.  There is no such thing as 1 person one vote here.  You can talk about it, but it will never happen. 

It could also be easily gamed, if you remember when Haejin joined he brought a bunch of level 25 minnow accounts on board that didn't power up, but rather ran around and trolled.  Surely you wouldn't want that type of person having equal stake and voice as those of us who might disagree, but are committed to the site and the community.
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@silentscreamer · (edited)
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I think i completely understand the system. Me not agreeing with it is another thing entirely. 
SMTs will bring 1account/1vote. Thats exactly what Ned said. It will be a hybrid system at first, which i completely support but SMTs are a shift in the general philosophy. 

The bot accounts are a problem of course, but with reputation, age of account, plagiarism detection, in place we do not need to base 1account/1vote on the bare bones account existence. Its a matter of logistics at that point. 

What i see now is a system of Plutocracy and trickle down economics that has been shown to lead to complete failure. 
That system is imo in place here. That will not lead to any good in the middle or long term.
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@whatsup ·
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One account, one vote, does not change stakebased.  (dPOS.)

It just slows down the phony accounts for scamming and spamming if it does anything at all.

Those who own stake in the system will always be able to use their stake to sway the system.  That is the beauty of the system.  Those who have the most invested have the most to win/lose and thus get to have the most influence.  Just as buying one stock in Apple doesn't put you on the board of directors.  Neither does being a content creator on SteemIt.  Anyway, thanks for the conversation.
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@baah ·
It will never happen, you mean that when Dan said that they were working on a moderation system apart from Curation that didn't resonate with one vote per person or you think moderation (justice) was going to be free market stake based implementation with the biggest wallets having a bigger say in moderation? 

You're about as committed to the site as your incessant defense for people doing whatever they want with their stake,  as you did when you attempted to defend htooms for Self Voting and equally their malicious flagging of fulltimegeek.  You are about as concerned with community as when you told me to my face that you'll do whatever you want to marginalize and attack ideas,  especially lying and playing the victim or simply spreading your toxic opinion which was based on outright lies and fabrication. Your a fake, a impostor, a complete 180 of what stands as integrity.
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@jonny-clearwater ·
baah baah....humbug
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@baah ·
What do I call you?  Cousin it?
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@whatsup ·
Lies and fabrications?  Oh, please do tell...
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@baah ·
You said I attacked you and said I was abusive, I pointed out that the curve is there to stop stake splitting, you argued the curve is there to make posts rewards even more unfair, I implored you to actually have a respectable discussion based on clear reasoning,  you responded with the effect of "Whatever it takes to undermine the idea of the curve I'll do it". When I previously asked you what do you think  the effect of a creation percentage change would be you ran away from any kind of discussion and yet in your *opinion* post you went to tie in  a change in curation as effecting bots, yet you didn't recognize the evident incentive of concentrating ones stake instead of having it delegated to 1 or  10 bots and the effect that would have on bots but think that the Curation change alone is responsible, or at least primarily, to dissuade bots,  when at best it's a supplement to the curve, which comes back to you equating that change as "I was here for the curve,  I know what the curve does,  it makes posts from whales 10x now", and had no interest in discussing that the curve is there to give concentrating stake into one account  the incentives it once had,  and stop in turn these bots, a point you had no intention of  discussing so you clearly didn't want to introduce the curve proposal with it. You don't give a fuck about community, you care about some investors speculating about Steem,  you think Steem is an experiment and have no problem justifying abuse as "what right do you have to say what others can and can't use their stake for!", and mocking the purpose of the reward pool and actually of Steem with the blatant disregard for supporting abuse while you've got the gall to present yourself as for community. Muh voturbation community, Muh care for discussion and clear reasoning, experiment Muh.
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@sunlit7 · (edited)
You have that right, especially considering he's not the one doing it.
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@funbobby51 ·
Consider this, does anyone not get a payout because the reward pool was raped by someone else? Is there ever no SBD left?
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