RE: Tired of this “Red pill, Blue pill” Analogy by intothewild

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· @intothewild ·
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Interesting post and I see your point. There is quite a wide spectrum when it comes to being *woke*. You pointed out a few talking about the russians, illuminati and others.

Imo, those are by products of being woke, once you've gone down a rabbit hole and seen things, it opens up every other rabbit hole to go down and from there it can be hard to discern truth from tinfoil.

>There is nothing wrong with having your beliefs and sharing them with others. You are free to believe that you are right and others are wrong. 

>But how willing are you to let others believe what they believe?

> How can we ever seek to create a peaceful world when we expect others to believe the same things we believe and dismiss them as entirely ignorant when they don’t.

For me, taking the red pill simply means that I see things now in plain english, where prior I saw everything in code. Taxation is theft, war is murder, unlawful arrest is kidnapping, and so on. The reason I copied this paragraph from you is this...everyone is allowed to *believe* what they want to, I am ok with that.

But it seems not everyone else is ok with just leaving me the hell alone. How can we have a peaceful world when I advocate for peace, yet the people who want to *vote for peace* completely disregard my wishes to be left alone to my own devices?

I believe in not violating other peoples individual rights. There are others out there who believe just the right amount of force and violence can make the world a better place, but I'm the ignorant one when I tell them that voting is violence.

Have your own beliefs and opinions. It's when those beliefs and opinions directly go against my own (forcefully) that I have a problem with.
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@whatamidoing · (edited)
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I don’t necessarily disagree with you on any of those points but it could easily be turned around too.  What if I think you are abusing the rights of animals by killing and eating them, or confining them?  Couldn’t I say that you are violating the rights of others and that you are not awake?  I’m just playing devils advocate here, I eat meat, but I appreciate vegetarianism and the idea that animals are not very different from us.

What if you raise your children in a way which I find to be abusive?  I could easily say you are abusive human rights.  But you may just see it as child rearing.  So what is apparent and given for one person may not be for another.

The most relevant example I can think of is, what if you legally own the rights to a large plot of land and I  have no land to my name.  In your mind that land is yours and if I take food off of it and build a little house on it I might be committing a crime.  In my mind the land belongs to everyone and since you have way more than you need and I have nothing, I am right to take a little piece just to take care of myself.  I am also happy to leave you alone, as long as you aren’t keeping all the resources to yourself.  

So I actually agree with you. I just don’t think it’s so objective.  Also you don’t usually get far with straight out retaliation, I still don’t regret not flipping my desk over every single day at school when I was forcefully kept in school.
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@intothewild ·
>What if I think you are abusing the rights of animals by killing and eating them, or confining them?
What if you raise your children in a way which I find to be abusive?
what if you legally own the rights to a large plot of land and I have no land to my name. In your mind that land is yours and if I take food off of it and build a little house on it I might be committing a crime.

These are simply disagreements between two parties. To which they could be handled in court (if necessary). Those three examples are **you** stating that **you** don't like something that **I** am doing. None of which effect you personally or negatively.

You lose nothing if I decide to be a carnivore, even though you may disagree with it.

You lose nothing if I raise my kids in a way you don't approve of. If it gets to the point where most people would claim it to be abuse, take me to court. Still, **you** are not effected negatively either way.

Taking land that I own is stealing, and therefore you would be a thief, regardless of your less than ideal circumstances.

Clearly you can see the difference between disagreements that don't effect you, and opining for government to force your neighbor at gunpoint to do something you approve of that they might not want to do, no?

That's the point I am trying to make when saying *woke*. Disagreements are one thing, forcing people to behave the way you want them to, when it doesn't effect you, is wrong.

> I still don’t regret not flipping my desk over every single day at school when I was forcefully kept in school.

lol, same here! How much time could have been saved...
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@whatamidoing · (edited)
But your concept of ownership and theft has affects me in a negative way and could easily be considered oppressive by those who are hungry.  Your faith in court and faith in the concept of ownership have made me powerless and very much affect me.  Raising your kids to believe in these concepts is also oppressive to me when the concepts themselves are oppressive.  I’m just making a point here. 

It’s really all perspective.
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