NASA - WHAT DO YOU THINK? by papa-pepper

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NASA - WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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There is probably only so much time that you can spend online before you encounter certain things. In this post, I just wanted to ask a few simple questions, to check where people are at, and what you believe.


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## <center>REAL or FAKE?</center>
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So, there certainly are quite a few videos out there that apparently show some pretty interesting things about NASA and space. I'm not sure what all you've personally looked into, but I was wondering what people actually thought about some of this stuff, since there are apparently many opposing views out there. Here's a few simple questions, and if anyone feels like answering them, please do below.

### Do you think that we ever landed on the moon?
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### Do you think that the International Space Station is real?
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### Did SpaceX launch a car into space?
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### And, just for fun, that new popular question... Is the earth flat?
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There will probably be some good discussions below. I was just curious as to what various members of our community thought about it. Thanks everyone.

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@ericvancewalton · (edited)
I'm not 100% sure but am apprehensive that the 1960's moon landings were real. I think the US had every reason in the world to fake it during that timeframe. The international space station I believe is actually out there. I think SpaceX most definitely launched their roadster but who knows? MSM has made sure that people are in the dark about what is reality and what's not for decades. The one I'm most sure about is the Earth not being flat, I'm still waiting for that reality show that challenges "flat-Earther's" to find an edge.
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@papa-pepper ·
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It seems a lot of people feel that way about the moon landing these days.

I think that last one about challenging flat-earthers to find the edge is interesting, because it seems like Antarctica is off limits and "protected" bu some sort of global agreement between many nations. That part really makes me wonder exactly what's really up.

Thanks for your reply! I appreciate it.
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@everittdmickey ·
the technology didn't exist that would enable it to be faked. It was possible to do it..but not fake it. Kinda like in the early days video couldn't be faked, or pictures. Seeing was beliveing back then. 

Today...not so much.
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@ericvancewalton ·
You're welcome! There are several theories about Antartica. One of the most believable I've heard is evidence of our history that doesn't fit the version of the narrative that we've been taught to believe. I've read that there could be physical proof on that continent that complex civilizations occurred on this planet millions of years ago. Interesting food for thought.
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@crescendoofpeace ·
Antarctica is visited ___all the time___ by scientists of varying types of expertise.

Yes, there is international cooperation, because no one "owns" Antarctica, but lots of people go there on an ongoing basis, and have for decades.

___Everyone___ would have to be conspiring in order for the flat Earth theories to be true.  As I've said before, it strains credulity.
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@brianphobos ·
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Yes we went to the moon 9 times  and landed on it 6 times. Yes the International Space Station is real as was the Russian Mir space station that was deorbited in 2001.  Yes Space X launched a car into space.  

No the Earth isn't flat.  You can see the curvature of the Earth in a passenger airplane and you still aren't convinced you can take a GoPro and send it up on a balloon and get pictures like this.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwq86wWknk
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@papa-pepper ·
My GoPro distorts everything, LOL. 

Seriously though, pertaining to the ISS, if Mach 1(the speed of sound) is 767.269 mph and the ISS is travelling at 17,150 mph (roughly five miles per second) how in the world are people getting on and off that thing? It seems that a tiny peice of space dust could kill you in a split second at that speed, no?
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@brianphobos ·
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That is the speed of sound at sea level at a certain temperature.   The speed of sound is different at various altitudes and temperatures.   

Being in orbit is more like falling at the same rate that gravity is pulling towards a massive object so most things are falling the same way spacecraft are falling.  The real threat is small meteors that aren't trapped in Earths orbit crossing their path which has happened but then statistically the chance that would strike a human is extremely low but they have struck spacecraft before including the ISS.  

If a person can go to an airshow and see the raw thrust that fighter jets put out or go to a rocket launch and see the power created by the rockets then drive around vehicles that can drive themselves (Tesla) and communicate with people all over the world via computers and powerful computers in our pockets then why wouldn't people believe that our mathematics and science isn't good enough to go into space or go to the Moon?   

Passenger jets fly across the oceans all the time.   Being in orbit is just a jump above that with different thrust requirements and different mechanics.   The air is just thinner at 240 miles above Earth compared to 40,000 feet above Earth.
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@crescendoofpeace ·
You seem to be assuming there is atmosphere at that altitude, which would create drag, and thus make it near impossible.

But there is no atmosphere at that altitude, hence, no drag.  Hence, everything magnitudes easier to accomplish.
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@dwells ·
You only need to go 100-200 feet off the ground to get that curve with a go pro.

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@flemingfarm ·
https://youtu.be/FHtvDA0W34I
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@dwells ·
@flemingfarm even Neil deGrasse Tyson says that Felix baumgartner's red bull skydive from space uses a wide-angle lens to produce the curve that you see in the video. that video amounts to how easily they can fake it and how easily they can deceive you
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@hebrewhousewife ·
1.No
2.Eh, not sure but lean towards no.
3.Not sure what that’s even about lol.
4.Again not sure, but I lean towards a flat earth.
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@papa-pepper ·
Thanks for your honest answers!
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@builderofcastles ·
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Well, my answers are all D, none of the above.

NASA is shady as f--k, and that is the best you can say about the organization.

NASA staged the moon landings on a set. Unless you know of another way of a coke bottle getting on the surface of the moon, than that is a fact.

But, did NASA go to the moon?  There is a good deal of evidence that they did, but since they went to see the glass/crystal towers, well they couldn't show us those images.

NASA definitely stages the videos you see from the "International Space Station", too many artifacts, like harnesses, wires, bubbles have been spotted that they are definitely faked.  

But is the ISS real?  The answer is probably. We have flying saucer technology.  Most outside the gov, call it the Secret Space Force.  So, they have smaller ships inside bigger ships, and in space, that is a space station.

Did Space X launch a car?  Answers point to no.  There again, are too many artifacts.  Space X looks to be the "new" NASA so they have no obligation to tell the people anything.

Is the earth flat?  The answer is yes, but it is bent in a 4D space.
Everywhere on earth, you can see much further than the "curvature" would allow.  Lighthouses, the other side of the shore of a great lake, and many other pictures.

Every time you try to measure any curvature, you always get that the earth is flat.  Or, that light bends.

So, i say that we live in a toroid (for lack of a better term) and that the earth is painted on the inside of that toroid.  It is actually space that is bent.
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@dwells ·
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>Do you think that we ever landed on the moon?

No, we faked it like a porn star.

https://youtu.be/fJUsREByGNw

>Do you think that the International Space Station is real?

Yes it is a real structure but it is not in space nor is it in low earth orbit nor are there any people on it. Everything filmed from the ISS is faked and there's plenty of videos out there to show the wire harness tricks that they used to give the perception that they are in space. 

>Did SpaceX launch a car into space?

Nope. To quote Elon musk "you can tell it's real because it looks so fake". Thanks Elon!  if you compare the distance data that they broadcast from that car to previous launches at distances you'll see that the images of Earth do not line up


>And, just for fun, that new popular question... Is the earth flat?

It's flat. anyone who makes the claim that you can see the curvature from an airplane is deceiving themselves. Even Neil deGrasse Tyson says you can't see any curvature from that low.https://youtu.be/YxuBjFvCt9o also it's rather easy to take a GoPro camera with a fisheye lens and attach it to a balloon and fly it to 120000 ft and get a nice beautiful curve, you can take the same GoPro camera with a fisheye lens and strap it on a small airplane and fly up 400 feet and get the same damn curve
https://youtu.be/J_8mdH20qTQ 
The curve is created by the lens. those with a trained eye can watch the red bull skydive from space videos of Felix baumgardner and see that the fisheye lens cameras on the outside the capsule produce a giant curve but the cameras from inside the capsule produce no curve whatsoever. also if anyone actually wants to challenge what they've been taught and do a little bit of independent research they can find plenty of videos on the internet where people send cameras with out fisheye lenses up to a hundred and twenty thousand feet and guess what folks there ain't no curve!

>the Earth is flat 
and that is a universal fact 
if it isn't flat 
then tell me where the flip 
the curve is at

Oh look I found the curve!
![ew-gravity-5.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWvJozMHPhin2iMiTZYmsQuFU9pvH3GZM9fAYH4fj6CgK/ew-gravity-5.jpg)

Oh wait, sorry, that's a still from a Hollywood movie......that cost 100million to produce...... and took 3 years to make.
BTW 100 million is NASA's budget for 2 days! 

If Hollywood can give you a 90-minute movie that 81 minutes of it takes place in faked "space"and they can do it for a hundred million dollars don't you think NASA can do better than that with the 19 Billion dollars a year they get?
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@everittdmickey ·
you can see the ISIS with your bare eyes. In fact you can see a lot of other sattelites too. I used to lay on the beach when I was on Crete and watch the sattlites go across the sky. It was kinda cool when they entered earth's shadow and weren't visible any longer. If you use a telescope or binocs you can see it more clearly. You can set your watch to the time it takes to orbit. approximately and hour and a half.
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@dwells ·
Dude satellites are no bigger than a car there's no way you can see them from that far away.

https://youtu.be/bS4jPjs6JPw
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@hippie-witha-gun ·
It is true, I see them all the time. Wait till you see Iridium flares and think they are UFOs :-).
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@flemingfarm ·
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Yes
Yes
Yes
No

One of my favorite reasons for believing the moon landing, Buzz Aldrin and his responses over the years to the deniers. People having the gall to tell him to his face what he experienced in life that ended up getting a punch in the face.

The space station is absolutely up there and it can be easily seen from earth with a minimal telescope. Just as MIR was and as Skylab was. 

Elon is JUST the type of person to actually put the car in space. I can't think of any other CEO that would do such a brazen thing. The technology speaks for itself now with the multiple booster landings and reuse. 

As for the flat earth, all I can say is that is is about the same mentality as the child hiding behind their hands saying, "You can't see me! I'm invisible!" They know better but they just can't seem to stop playing around.
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@ironshield · (edited)
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>Do you think that we ever landed on the moon?

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbV1851Z4Trrmw29Jfkwhcv3BBfwjLYgy2KQgXhib7PPp/image.png)

>Do you think that the International Space Station is real?

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUzDRCU2ZFsyovzH2K6oKPNe2KRmH1hPyHpwJoUdLCxZ7/image.png)

>Did SpaceX launch a car into space?

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZES2Mvk8oR8cGe9tUA8vDTCRPLs9hRRsZsUhM7FRkrox/image.png)

>And, just for fun, that new popular question... Is the earth flat?

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmfB5Z3pZoLq9YyxKJRLkPqJuy8mtrxV9TBgeJ3NcJxixq/image.png)

I tag @dwells :-)
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@dwells ·
Look up I commented before you did.
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@ironshield ·
Ha, I should have known!  :-)
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@everittdmickey · (edited)
three out of four?
I'm reasonably confident that the first three are correct. The reasons I feel that way are so numerous that it would take many, many, long posts to even hit the high spots.
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@papa-pepper ·
I get that. You don't need to go in depth here. Thanks for answering!
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@hippie-witha-gun · (edited)
Nasa was created by the CIA. I wouldn't believe any agency that is run by the CIA. I know enough to know that we didn't land on the Moon at the time they say we did. The 1969 Moon landing was all political theater to distract the masses. Kind of funny how Buzz Aldrin becomes a severe alcoholic after the whole ordeal. Why? Because he couldn't remember if they actually went to the Moon or not. Truth is he was drugged on something to make him think he went. Probably LSD. They did this to all the astronauts. Some small section of Aldrin woke up and was in denial and he couldn't get a grip on it. You can hear them quoting as they are hobbling around, "It feels like we are in the desert." Because they were in the desert! While we stay distracted with the whole fake Nasa Moon story, they were really building secret bases on the Moon, hence the "dark side" of the Moon we've all heard of. What have they really been doing up there? Does it exist? Don't take my word for it do your own homework. 

I wrote a flat Earth rant last year. At the time not very many people saw it. 
https://steemit.com/politics/@hippie-witha-gun/flat-earth-theory-and-my-thoughts-about-it
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@fitinfun ·
7th grade Art Project with Mylar,  dented scrap metal, and construction paper?

Or high tech pressurized super craft able to withstand 450 degree swings in temperature?

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@fitinfun ·
An insane man filmed by someone more insane?

Or the wiki photo of the high tech shower in the spacelab?


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@fitinfun · (edited)
#### Wasted in Space - Nice hair flick near the electronics
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@fitinfun ·
This hair would be everywhere. Do they have a maid?

Also - this lady is hanging upside down and you can not unsee that.

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@fitinfun ·
>Did SpaceX launch a car into space?

I have no idea and did not follow or see anything about this or ever here of it before your post, but this guy is in every gossip site that I DO follow as a coked up nutcase with severe money trouble and women coming out of the woodwork to tell about his strange ways.

Anything about him, I would not believe.

My gossips sites are highly reliable when it comes to stuff like this.
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@papa-pepper ·
Looks like someone is having some fun with this. Thanks for the comments!
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@fitinfun ·
I  gave up worrying about it. I'm just trying to help fat people get thin. Nothing I can do about all this fakery and no reason to care. It's hard to believe anyone falls for it, yet they do.
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@fitinfun · (edited)
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>Space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement.

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All of the Red Hot Chili Peppers families are connected to military intel, and other govt agencies. Widely and back generations.

When they sing that line - I think it is because they actually saw the basement. Why else would they come up with such a thought? Most lines in this song have similar info on other topics.
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@hippie-witha-gun ·
I heard it! That line in the video as he runs through the Hollywood set. HA HA!
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@jacobtothe ·
The preponderance of evidence supports the assertion that NASA did what they claim. Yes, governments are built on a foundation of lies and half-truths, but that doesn't mean everything said ever by anyone is a falsehood. The counterarguments regarding the Van Allen belts, claims about moon shadows, etc. have been refuted to my satisfaction.
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@papa-pepper ·
Thanks for chiming in!
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@vibeof100monkeys ·
1) Not sure don't think they did it in the 60's since then maybe?
2) Yer ish don't really take much interest in it. Always found it odd though best mates with Russia in space but on earth not ummm
3) Haha for some reason this was comical and i didn't even consider they were sending it into space. Yer quite easy to do really just fire it up.
4) Globe I think this whole flat earth thing is basically saying don't believe that believe this. To be honest the argument is not strong enough. Beside I think it's a red herring we need to sort out community and the real problem in this world! Know the shape of the earth will not stop this corrupt banking scheme that is destroying human society!  πŸ’―πŸ’
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@monotharch ·
#1: Pretty sure that we did. The Russians would have said otherwise by now.  We can see landing/launch sites from past expeditions. Also to note, two of the men that "walked the moon" were/or became Christians, so to claim that we didn't walk the moon would be to say that two of our Christians brothers are lying about the second greatest thing that happened to them.

#2: I've seen it in the night sky a few times (I think I have a photo of its light trail somewhere...)

#3: I think we have good reason to think so. Unless we want to think people are lying, but I think to think the best I can of people when possible. :)

#4: No. If you caught the recent lunar eclipse, you'll notice that the shadow that covers the moon is circular. Only a sphere will cast a circular shadow from all positions (not a new idea either, the Greeks figured that out some time ago).  

Anywho. :)
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@papa-pepper ·
Thanks Brother~
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@monotharch ·
You're welcome. :)
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@dwells ·
The idea of the shadow of the Earth on the moon and only a sphere can cause that presupposes a heliocentric model. The Bible does not support a heliocentric model. The creation account of Genesis 1 confirms a geocentric model.  Further more it's not beyond God's grand design to have an "eclipse" happen without it being from a shadow.
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@monotharch ·
I'm curious how Genesis 1 confirms a geocentric model. But that doesn't effect how eclipses work so much. 
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@crescendoofpeace ·
I turned my response into a post here:
https://steemit.com/partiko/@crescendoofpeace/8uxnvmjv

Thanks for these questions!  I had fun. ;-)
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@papa-pepper ·
I'll check it out, thanks!
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@madalchemist ·
"Do you think that we ever landed on the moon?"
No the reflectors up there that you can bounch lasers off got there with no help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
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@minismallholding · (edited)
There's a real mixture in the replies here. Personally, I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't ready matter in the grand scheme of things whether they are real or fake and what shape you believe the earth is. We live, we die and one day everything will be gone, including this earth of ours.
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@old-guy-photos ·
Lunar retroreflectors are real. Deal with it lol.
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