RE: DTube opens a witness node on STEEM by dr-frankenstein

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· @dr-frankenstein ·
Yea, obviously.
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@carn ·
Tbh, the only thing shutdown was @anyx's full node infrastructure, and that was because he couldn't afford to run it on two chains. I doubt the SPS covered all his costs, though I could be wrong. Now that he's not getting any funding, there's for sure no reason to run his node.

@netuoso: vessel wallet and @yabapmatt: steem keychain are both still running and the Korean community asked Justin Sun to shut down funding to them because they said they were not needed

@themarkymark's black list API is still running as far as I know
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@themarkymark ·
I took down the blacklist today, I had planned on continuing to run it but when Justin Sun used Steemit Inc ninja mine to vote out all the proposals, I turned it off.  

Out of over 2 years of developing, maintaining, and hosting it, it was funded by the SPS for about 2 weeks.
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@dr-frankenstein ·
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Don't base your assumptions on doubts, study the costs, analyze, get more information, َand finish with a conclusion that you can back up with data.

and just to be clear here, even though I agree on its importance, I am against that the first-mentioned proposal, my opinion alines with the opinion of  [smooth](https://steempeak.com/sps/@smooth/pxukc9) on this.  We fed (metaphorically) him for months, then he took off suddenly even when he knew that several projects relied on his node. This is the kind of centralization that led me to oppose it. 

You only mentioned a few names btw, there were more proposals on the funding line. Anyway, what do you think is the difference between continuous development/updates and just chill by keeping something on and get free money just because you changed one line of cost 6 months ago? You got the idea. Those people were paid to dedicate X time for Y task/result. If you publicly announce that you are going to shift all your focus to Hive or another thing, then so long. The Steem community doesn't need to pay for development under open source licenses just so other chains can benefit from it. 

and yes we all requested the SPS to be secured, I wrote a post about it, and guess what, I am not Korean.

To end with. I didn't say that all of them didn't deserve funding, out of the bunch, only 2 deserved the support of the community.

Thank you,

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@mrprofessor ·
What people don't get is that this surprise hard fork did more harm than anything; most people don't realise that this centralized decision severely hurt many dApps (including the one I work on), and still they push the narrative that if they told anyone Justin Sun would've taken over again. 

We find it to be absolutely selfish to decide something without contacting dApp developers outside of the "circle" and I have been pushing this questioning on Hive's discord without success, the responces are always the same "we know it would hurt, it's not easy, you'll need to adapt bla bla bla". It's easy for them, they are sitting on top 20 consensus with some solid funding, they don't realise that dApps took years of developing trust in order to raise a stake to maintain users.

They completely said "fuck you" to anyone who was working on dApps, who invested time, money, who needed previsibility to plan now and to the future. Yet, they say it was a community consensus? Without the community even participating?  

I'm with you @dr-frankenstein, I'm on Hive, but I already know that I won't be well accepted there if I keep on questioning the status quo. As for our dApp, we'll shut down our witness and step away from governance.
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