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We came into this world and met some moral or rules and believe in it even if they are not true cause it has already been there before us.

part I of this text characterizes moral reasoning extra absolutely, situates it in relation both to first-order money owed of what morality calls for folks and to philosophical money owed of the metaphysics of morality, and explains the hobby of the subject. part II then takes up a series of philosophical questions about ethical reasoning, so understood and so situated, god bless you @kyriacos

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Conventional morals are really just politically acceptable ways to bribe and coerce other people to obey. Reward is bribery. Punishment is coercion.

Problem is, morals arise and are preserved by child rearing practices that rely upon reward and punishment. They are codified in things like the Ten Commandments and songs like "Santa Claus is Coming To Town". Ask any uninformed adult and they will tell you that we're not talking about bribery and coercion. They'd tell us that reward and punishment are what make civilization possible.

But what they won't tell you is that reward and punishment don't teach any skills. All they do is reinforce behavior. Neither will actually inhibit challenging behavior.

Until we learn to teach the skills required to deal with challenging behavior exhibited by kids and adults, we'll rely upon reward an punishment to justify the morals we impose on others through government or religion.

True morality doesn't come from a book. It comes from the chest and the stomach. If the thought of doing something to someone else makes your stomach burn, don't do it. If you feel pangs in your chest after you do something to someone else, don't do that again. Adrenaline and guilt are the moral guideposts that inform of of our compassion for other human beings.

Perhaps when we become willing to acknowledge our feelings about what was done to us in childhood and what we have done to others, as a society, we will know peace.

>Every time there is a situation or argument about human endeavours, morals come to the scene. Thing is, morals, much like religion are subject to interpretation. Everyone has their own version and understanding of the term and everyone applies them differently.* Any person that acts immoral from our point of view, feels they are very much moral considering their own narrative.

* Unless they aren't, and they admit to being wrong. 

>Human societies flourished because they managed to set some ground rules about how people should behave. Sometimes those rules were written down in stones much like it was in the case of Hammurabi in Middle East. Other times those rules were written down by old men that acted as priests. Eventually those agreed rules created a basis so that people could live. Generation after generation those rules became morals and for the newcomers it seemed like they had always been there.


Human societies flourished because of consensus. Morals are consensus established again and again.

>Much like the "5 Monkey Experiment", people will believe and adopt to whatever is in front of them. Children for example believe in the morals and narrative of the Santa Claus universe. Santa works with the naughty or nice narrative. Adults know that these rules/morals do not apply, yet, the children are baited to act nicer if they want gifts. Thing is, the parents that control this narrative, brake their own rules and allow the children to get a present anyways. Nobody considers this immoral. What is more ironic is that the poor kids around the world don't get any presents and they do appear to be the immoral ones.

It's not a stretch to consider morals, ethics on par with "Santa Claus"..

>It is clear that the metric in the Santa case is money and privilege of birth, not morals. Yet, the narrative that is widely believe from the kids of that age is very different. It is so different that no revolution or mass uprising from the children can change it back. It is what it is because succeeding generations decided it would be so.

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>Moving the same story about morals into our own "grown up world" we see humans believing in their own version of the Santa Universe. Even though the stories about religion and politics are much the same as in the Santa case, most people choose to believe that those morals given out by the state and the church are sacred and owed to be respected. The religious heroes are as awesome as Santa. The state heroes are as brave as cartoon heroes.

Sad but true, still that doesn't make morals cartoonish or a made up story to appease the gatekeepers in our next life, morals are akin to what we consider Fair, what we consider Nice and what we consider Mean, yeah we all "consider" but these judgments transcend species, not only cultures. They are primordial and before our made up narratives to explain and understand the world through. 

Patriotism, blind faith, appeal to tradition, they are still things to shake one's head at, many indeed cartoonish creations, what fair is, what is equal, that is in our blood. 

>Ascribing to moral truths is nothing more but giving out to fear. Anything we know to be true or real was created from people that lived before us. As we grew up those morals were fitted in our brains and became our reality. We do see the moral glitches from the masters but most are afraid to act. We learned to fasten the chains in our feet.

Yeah ok, cool story bro.

Violence is actually merely the result of all the "No's" and "Dont's" imposed over us by society. Violence is the outlet of frustration or anger which has accumulated over many years due to the lack of Love we experience in the world.
Whenever we follow our Heart we will get back a reflection of "yes, it is possible". I lies WITHIN. The moment we realize this we have anchored the inner Faith and we can always resort to it. Any "no" is not ours but comes from external negative manipulation of "not being enough".

"The only Truth lies within yourself".

So we better throw away what we think we are.
When we stop thinking we won't stop being, but we will stop being and identifying with our thought-made Self, assume the position of neutrally observing our thoughts instead of judging them and consequently judging ourselves...

And I also agree with finding out for ourselves instead of following somebody else's "Truth". When we follow somebody else's Truth there is always a higher chance of playing victim sooner or later since we "didn't want that in the first place". This is the source of blame...

Thanks for casting Light on Truth!

There is nothing impossible for humans to do... 

People have many energies that they can win everything.. 

People can do whatever they want.

If we have to survive, we will have to survive with our efforts.

You never fail to amuse an audience while making a point lol:

“the children are baited to act nicer if they want gifts. Thing is, the parents that control this narrative, break their own rules and allow the children to get a present anyways. Nobody considers this immoral.”

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So morality is all arbitrary and subjective? I just hope you are consistent in that stance meaning that you don't have any grounds on which to criticize any action as "unjust". Child rape? Nah it's not bad because morality is subjective and to the rapist, there is no issue with morality. The Holocaust? Nothing to see there either. Again, Hitler was doing what he believed to be right, so where is the problem?

Καλημέρα αρχικά! Η ηθική όντως εξαρτάται πάντοτε από την εκόστοτε κοινωνία, συνδέεται με το περιβάλλον της κάθε κοινωνίας και τα πολιτιστικά της στοίχεια. Πράγματι μεταβάλλεται ανάλογα με τις μεταβολές της κοινωνίας. Δεν μπορώ όμως να τη δω ακριβώς με την έννοια που της έχεις δώσει στο τίτλο. Εάν η ηθική συνδεθεί με τη γνώση, εδώ μπορεί να δει κανείς και το έργο του Καντ για τον ορθό λόγο, πιστεύω πως μπορεί να συμβεί το αντίθετο, το ίδιο το ον να απελευθερωθεί διότι η σύνδεση της γνώσης με την ηθική, μέσα από τη δημιουργία νορμών, θα οδηγήσει τον άνθρωπο στο να πράττει "ορθά" χωρίς να χρειάζονται οι κανόνες.

Dogma's  would be a better word to use (instead of "morals"), in the last half of your story i.m.h.o.

What you are told by the church and in politics has nothing what so ever to do with morals.
The "morals" are used as a control mechanism by the (leaders/gurus/politicians of the) religion. The people in political religions and religions are not moral at all, by using these methods.
It's a very Orwellian world we live in, where the worst people, tell the people they control and that follow them, that they are  bad (born in sin) and that they must do this or that, to make themselves, and even worse, others, good, all the while doing all kinds of bad stuff, for the rulers/priests after which the priest/rulers say; see... people are bad... and listen to me because I know how you can be good....etc. etc.

Ironically, atheist and anarchist *groups and movements* do exactly the same thing to their followers, or their followers apply the movement's rules voluntarily to themselves, which boils down to the same thing.

That is why many on Steemit quote their favourite belief system's websites in moral discussions rather than think for themselves. New priests, same shit. Only very few "roll their own" morals as they go along in life.

Very nice post and great article..

My theory is that there are several people writing under the "@kyriacos" name as the quality and depth of the posting varies surprisingly. This post is not only shallow but the language used is less sophisticated and includes more errors than other posts signed @kyriacos that I've read. 

The @kyriacos I prefer would have probably noted that "morals" have a social function. Yes, in any human society there is a trade-off between individual freedom and the common best interest. "Morals" represent the boundary, the set of rules that are used as "signaling" of your degree of attachment to the society that set out those rules. 

In Germany, it might be seen as immoral to cross the street when the traffic light is red even if the street is empty. Not so in other places. 

Atheism and anarchism are both feared and loathed because they threaten the social fabric. In truth, both are social ills. 

Ascribing to moral laws is giving out to a reasonable fear - an individual has a lot more objective reasons to fear when alone in a hostile world than when protected by a group of kin. Ascribing to moral laws is most of the time simply the smart thing to do: giving up some individual freedom in exchange for predictability. 

Because this is what the others in the group are asking of any individual: to behave predictably, at least in certain situations