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These are all studies/statements about magic mushrooms which contain the active substance of psilocybin. I didn't mention them in the article. Completely different from the "spiritual" ones related to LSD and Ayahuasca. Also many similar studies have also reports of anxiety and panic attacks after taking the drug. In other words, much like modern depressants.
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Psilocybin mushroom are in the same family compound (tryptamines) as LSD and DMT the active compound of ayahusca. They act on the same neuro-transmitter and have been reported to induce similar experience. The family includes neurotransmitter serotonin (5-hydroxy tryptamine) and hallucinogenic/psychedelic drugs such as LSD, Psilocybin (magic mushrooms) - both widely-used, and other, less common, synthetic drugs such as dimethyl-tryptamine (DMT). > Other than the duration of the experience, the effects of psilocybin are similar to comparable dosages of LSD or mescaline. However, in the Psychedelics Encyclopedia, author Peter Stafford noted, "The psilocybin experience seems to be warmer, not as forceful and less isolating. It tends to build connections between people, who are generally much more in communication than when they use LSD."[22] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Biosynthesis_of_psilocybin.svg/800px-Biosynthesis_of_psilocybin.svg.png Diagram detailing the biosynthesis of psilocybin from tryptophan
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Spare me the wikipedia copy-pasta. We are in the same family as Apes but we are not the same thing. LSD and ayahusca create much stronger effects that can cause many problems. Also, all experiences are reported from junkies who self-affirm each other about the effects. No way to get an objective valuation. I can tell you about the positive effects of alcohol of cigarettes but it won't make any sense since they both can make you warmer and socialize or they can make you start drinking by yourself and die. Again. bullshit conclusions since they fluctuate equally on both sides of the spectrum. And again. The point of the article was about the non-existence of spiritual claims β not trying to save the day by using political allegory that it can have "some good experience". Once again you are being intellectually dishonest.
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"The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." Alberto Brandolini I'm not even going to bother.
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There are plenty of studies that suggest the positive benefits of LSD as well. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/05/psychedelic-drugs-like-lsd-could-be-used-to-treat-depression-study-suggests Psychedelic drugs could prove to be highly effective treatments for depression and alcoholism, according to scientists who have obtained the first brain scans of people under the influence of LSD. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/04/01/lsd-could-make-you-smarter-happier-and-healthier-should-we-all-try-it/?utm_term=.29cf2ef0e7e3 But over the past decade, some scientists have begun to challenge that conclusion. Far from being harmful, they found, hallucinogens can help sick people: They helped alcoholics drink less; terminal patients eased more gently into death. And itβs not just the infirm who are helped by the drugs. Psychedelics can make the healthy healthier, too. https://www.livescience.com/43894-acid-lsd-therapeutic-value-benefits.html The LSD experiment is part of a growing trend toward taking certain drugs β long dismissed as "recreational" β more seriously for their therapeutic value. Despite a plethora of federal and state prohibitions against drug-related testing and research, investigators are discovering that many so-called party drugs have real health benefits. LSD isn't addictive, and unless taken by someone with an existing predisposition towards mental illness, unlikely to do any sort of lasting harm. The demonization of LSD & other psychedelics is pretty laughable when you consider the harm done by legal drugs such as alcohol, pain killers, nicotine, etc.
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The post didn't bother about the socializing effects of the drugs since they are subjective and can be bad and good. I rather focused debunking the "spiritual" claims which are bullshit with no scientific evidence to support them. kind reminder that even alcohol can be observed to have the same effects and most people are not alchoholics.
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What you're fundamentally arguing against is spirituality is a concept, not whether or not hallucinogenics can induce spiritual experiences. Nothing 'spiritual' can be proven objectively.
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read this and spare me the drama <h3><a href="https://steemit.com/science/@kyriacos/how-not-to-use-scientific-references">How Not To Use Scientific References</a></h3>
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