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"You can't just claim that fictional things exist in objective reality without proving the claim." Sure you can, you just have to add: "the Bible/Koran says".
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lol right :)
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Or adding, "science says." As just one example of how sciencism is as dangerous as religion: It was recently found that all the fMRI research data ever collected was essentially wrong: http://www.sciencealert.com/a-bug-in-fmri-software-could-invalidate-decades-of-brain-research-scientists-discover Another example: One of our most popular drugs, antidepressants, essentially do nothing: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/depression-medication-why_b_550098.html Books could be filled with this kind of 'science'. Now, I am not anti-science. For me, science is simply the documentation of reproducible effect and then the use of that effect to solve a problem. However, we know that the scientific community regularly claims "that fictional things exist in objective reality without proving the claim." The entire pharmaceutical industry relies on its fiction writers making up disease names for psychosocial problems and then offering fictional solutions to those conditions. However, I'm a bit confused why I'm having this discussion, since nothing in my post was fictional. Could someone point to the bit which describes something that definitively does not exist?
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Except you are somewhat wrong in both examples you gave, The fMRI bug is an issue which is much more nuanced than, "there's a bug, so everything is wrong" https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2016/sep/30/has-a-software-bug-really-called-decades-of-brain-imaging-research-into-question A lot of the information you provide on that subject is just plain wrong, not all fMRI studies are affected, only about 10% Your example for antidepressants is summed up as one doctor's opinion. Some doctors will also say that vaccines are bad when that is clearly a false statement. You may not be entirely anti-science, but you seem to have some confirmation bias. Your posting history is littered with your use of substances such as LSD and MDMA and how they treat depression. I think your belief in this subject is based more on your desire for this to be true rather than an actual well-researched study.
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Sadly, I would rather it wasn't true that LSD and MDMA treat depression, because then it wouldn't be such a global tragedy that they are illegal. The official research is fairly encouraging: http://www.maps.org/resources/papers/ We're way off track here, but initially 25-40% of fMRI studies were affected: "Before the controversies were publicized in 2010, between 25-40% of studies on fMRI being published were not using the corrected comparisons. But by 2012, that number had dropped to 10%." I have had first-hand encounters with the systems that parse the voxel data, and it's far from reliable stuff. Do other bugs exist? As for antidepressants, it's true it's a minority perspective that they are fictional. I won't go into much detail here, since I can see you are very confident in your perspective. I am unlikely to solve the world's problems in my reply to your post, and have no interest in changing your mind. It is yours to shape yourself. Thanks for an interesting discussion.
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i debunked his way of thinking here read this and spare me the drama <h3><a href="https://steemit.com/science/@kyriacos/how-not-to-use-scientific-references">How Not To Use Scientific References</a></h3>
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