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I agree with you, @piedpiper. Germs were fictional in 1846. So fictional that the scientific community drove a man to his death for claiming they existed. I'm excited to see what other 'fictions' future scientific research turns into reality. However, I'm not sure where in my post I talked about spirits existing.
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Ignorance of a thing doesn't make it fictional. That which is fictional is imaginary and only exists in the mind. When you say that something is spiritual, you are claiming that spirits exist.
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@piedpiper: What are spirits?
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Just fictional creatures without matter or energy. In objective reality, we call that *not existing.*
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>Germs were fictional in 1846 I think you don't understand what that word means
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@i-repost, I understand. The dictionary defines fictional as, " Narrative, explanatory material, or *belief that is not true or has been imagined or fabricated.* " Which is exactly what the scientific community told Ignaz Semmelwei his germ theory was: *a belief that is not true or has been imagined or fabricated.* Science Fiction often becomes Science Fact at a later date. On one hand, science is the process by which we discover a hypothesis is reproducible. On the other, it is also a process by which we, psychologically, come to accept theories which were previously denied or thought impossible. Science is not immune to politics, nor is it definitive. Often, expired science is clung to as fervently as any religious order.
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Except it isn't correct at all to say germs were fictional in 1846. Germs clearly existed, Ignaz Semmelweis' contemporaries just had issues with his ideas and to some extent Semmelweis himself. The main issue was that his contemporaries weren't using proper science. Had they done their research and performed more tests they would've seen Semmelweis' methods to be effective. Additionally, it's not exactly wise to compare the scientific community of today with that the 1800's. You also fall into the problem of making broad generalizations by saying the entire scientific community was against his ideas, which isn't exactly true. In fact, some people in the UK actually looked favorably on his ideas because they believed it supported their idea of miasma theory. (Bit of an aside, but I'm pretty sure Semmelweis never really described germs so much as he believed that all diseases have one cause in common and all that matters is cleanliness. Also, it isn't exactly true to say he pioneered the discovery of germs as others came before him, Germ theory has roots in the 1500's. )
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