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Great article. It's so easy to go overboard no matter what one believes in.
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yep. perhaps a tendency of the evolving human to associate with the extremes prior to finding balance...
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Good read mate, cheers mike
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Four stars for understanding @rok-sivante, we would not exist if what came before us was not real.
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according to the Principle Of Correspondence, environment and the individual are mirrors of one another. so yes taking responsibility is all there is. I just wrote a blog about this but that cannot -- and never will -- excuse that the dumbing down does exist for real. Follow the money, as usual. Most religions regard usury as a capital sin. Debt slavery is as old as mankind... and the policy makers enjoying their kickbacks for pedaling the mantra that deficits support the economy. The most abject and immoral is going into debt for wars, why are world citizens not told this in elementary school? And now world govs are pouring billions of $ into AI weaponry... well, this will have dire consequences. Meanwhile many think that AI will bring abundance. There is a metaphysical war out there... very real, mirrored by the environment and each individual. Personal Responsibility And Love Are All There Is In The Perpetually Creating Universe (on my page, for those interested)
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though perhaps it's *all* serving... the "dumbing down," an evolutionary challenge to elict higher intelligence from the "superior" of the species who break out of the mold and push to new heights in spite of the obstalces... the flaws of the financial systems, a catalyst for upgrading them... the wars, a twisted means of evoking higher degrees of compassion, greater responsibility for playing a role in directing our collective future, a wealth of lessons... perhaps so long as we're looking at it as a "metaphysical war," we'll overlook the perfection of it all as it unfolds in the larger timeline, observing it's merely the process of life evolving through time...
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> the "dumbing down," an evolutionary challenge to elict higher intelligence from the "superior" of the species I do not buy into any form of (technocratic) darwism, that is where the mirage is successful. I have written extensively about it. My stance is based on the 7 Principles saying that a society that cannot overcome wars is doomed.
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very good @rok-sivante thank u
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it's like a pyramid symbol
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Well. I have the utmost respect , and growing emgrossment in, Buddhism. And I agree with trying to drop the dualistic mindset. And in that vein I would say that what "government" does to us is true and it is also true that we do things to ourselves. There is a conspiracy, but not everyone is a fully willing player, and even those who are willing players are still human (as hard as that can be to accept at times). Not either or. Both. That is nondulism. Besides, do you really know that anything truly exists outside of being a mental formation? (if you really want to go down that rabbit hole I'm strange in that I would enjoy that conversation đ) But becoming always engulfed in negative judgment is self defeating. That is why I try to limit my time exposed to politics and news, and I avoid most major media as I find it to be harmful to myself. It is better to focus on the positive. And even where there is negative I do think it is more productive to look for common ground and common humanity and try to work with things as they are as much as reasonably possible - although it is getting more and more unreasonable - let's not delude ourselves about that either.
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> It is better to focus on the positive. And even where there is negative... it is about the ability to understand a 5000 year old human experiment and that the power structure has NOT changed since eons ... nothing is static but exponential. And either we address it or ignore it at our own risks.
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Spirituality is brain wash since when? Tis the only way to truth !
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Not when certain âspiritualâ principles are misinterpreted and taken to extremes...
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that is why I call myself a metaphysicist, by merging science and the spiritual, we can remain balanced.
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Here you go my custodian sister: **Where âAm-Iâ? What âAm-Iâ? What âAm-Iâ suppose to be doing here?** These are the 3 questions every child is confronted with. First they pop out of the womb into a bright and loud place that they know nothing about, and one they canât even perceive accurately. As they look around examining where they are they stumble into their body, maybe a hand or foot in their mouth that they for the first time recognize as a âselfâ separate from the experienced universe. If they gather enough information and make an accurate analysis of these first 2 questions they can come to an accurate conclusion on the 3ed question: âWhat Am I Suppose to âBEâ doing here?â Unfortunately society and traditions seek to confound the first 2 questions thereby making an accurate assessment of the 3ed nearly impossible for the average person on the planet. So, with this in mind lets analyses this self, this perception of âI-AMâ and see if we canât arrive at an accurate answer. **Where âAm-Iâ?** This one is not what one might think is the âcommon senseâ answer, say âon Earth in the Milky Way with the Local Group in the Universe at large. No, all that is just evidence as to where you really are. Where one really âISâ, is inside âMindâ. We are the âExperiencerâ, we are the âI-AMâ that is having the experience. This is a non-physical thing, outside of âspace-timeâ as can be proven by the fact that the experiencer is always in the âNowâ, the ongoing Eternal (outside of time) wow that is NOW. If one wants to look for further proof of this it is found in Quantum Physics and was shown in the early 1900âs with the âDual-Slit Experimentâ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc This experiment clearly shows that particles ONLY exist as âphysical matterâ when they interact with something else (when 2 things are âawareâ of each other and interact). When these so called particles are not interacting with an âotherâ they exist only as âwaves of potential statesâ, from which one state is collapsed upon when there is an interaction. So, the answer to âWhere Am-I?â is that you are INSIDE of MIND,,,, which answers the 2nd question: **What âAm-Iâ?** What we are is the âExperiencerâ. We are what is âawakeâ and having the experience of our body, or of driving our car or whatever experience you can think of or have. Some might be tempted to jump to the conclusion that this is their âpersonal Soulâ, but lets analyses that further. The âAct of Consciousnessâ or the act of being awake or the act of having an experience is not a noun, it is a verb. That means, as we already figured out, that âyouâ are not a physical thing (noun) you are an action that is happening (a verb). So ask yourself the question, what is the source of the action? There is ONE act of Consciousness that everything is taking part in, from the sub-atomic particles (as in the dual slit experiment) to plants, animals and you and I. Who Am I? = there is âNo Iâ, there is only the Act of Consciousness which the whole âphysical universeâ is being experienced in. This act of consciousness is the creator of the physical universe inside of Mind and therefore is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent the 3 most described aspects of âGodâ. So in conclusion, there is no âIâ, there is only âI-AMâ (aka God). In Buddhism this is what a Buddha understands, that his consciousness is not his own but is in fact Buddha Consciousness. So, to the important question: **What Am-I suppose to be doing here?** Well, if there is no me, and there is only the Creator, and the Creator gifts âexperiencing the Universeâ to every sub-part without condition (aka Unconditional gift of Love) even if the sub-part is a child molester or a murder or Illuminati/Vatican/Zionist scumbag, then it becomes clear. In the Christian metaphor Satan wants to sit on the Throne of God. That throne of course is CONSCIOUSNESS and Satan therefor is oneâs EGO, ones concept of âSelfâ, oneâs memories and understandings and predictions of reality that inevitably foul things up from their potential equilibrium. When we believe we are our name or our body we can not answer this question correctly. What are you suppose to be doing? You are suppose to be doing what GOD would do if God were in your position, because that is exactly the truth, and to be in denial of that is the source of the lie, the source of evil, the deception from the âegoâ Great Deceiver (aka Satan). Be present in the NOW, look in front of you and spread Love and Compassion on all that passes your way.
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Good points all. But it seems to me you're still dealing with it at the conceptual level. And if you want to get past dualism, it's about the "realizing how your mind works" level. So, maybe this will be interesting to you. Maybe not. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FT23ER4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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>it seems to me you're still dealing with it at the conceptual level mmmm... *partially*. I suppose a point weaved in there that wasn't spelled out directly is the concept of moving *beyond* the conceptual level - *through* that abandonment of dualistic thinking. opening up into the full-spectrum, it's not so much conceptual as perceptive anymore. got a number of books on-the-go already, but added this one to my Wish List. thanks for the recommendation. :-)
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Man, I love this post! I felt the same way about few things over my life, but at the end, the concept of subjective reality always kicks in and I start to analyse what I believe in. Right now I actually think you should believe in what could be productive and positive for you, some of the ideas of self-help could fit in that category but there are few things I cant accept (like anything metaphysical). You should check my [last post](https://steemit.com/life/@paps/take-back-the-control-over-your-thinking-reframing), where I talk about reframing beliefs. I think you will like it, just try not to categorize it as self help right away :)
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I agree that it's part of a perfectly unfolding bigger picture. And I believe it's necessary to swing one side to the other before finding the happy place. I think there's danger, though, in denying the truths lying within those conspiracy theories, and I think that's what you were getting at there at the end. It's crucial, in my mind, that we continue to be aware that the mainstream media is absolutely feeding people fluff at best, outright lies regularly. Should people be more discerning? Of course. That's why those of us aware have to speak up. Modern education was founded specifically for the purpose of dumbing down. Dewey knew the world needed factory workers who would respond to bells and orders. He knew also he needed kids out of the way so more adults could work. He was open about it. Did that darkness create some brilliant minds devising ways to learn differently, alas to actually just nurture learning that already happens? Absolutely. Check out the Sudbury Valley School and schools like it all around the world. The original founder left a tenured professor job at Columbia to start it. Do vaccines kill and injure people? Absolutely they do. Has that spawned an effort to make them more safe and effective? No. Not really because everyone dismisses those of us who believe that as crazy conspiracy theorists. But someday it will. So, while I agree there is ultimate perfection under the unfolding, I think a dismissive attitude towards those evolving ideas as conspiracy theories is maybe not helpful. I think you're right that many just discovering these things see others as the enemy or stupid or whatever, and that's surely not helpful either. It's important to understand everyone is where they're at and just stay focused on the positives of the world we're creating. Sorry if this is scattered. Kids are batshit right now.
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I totally agree... look at the nationwide opioid crisis, difficult to disregard the role of bigpharma... or even banking manipulating the interest rates causing boom and bust cycles. This is all very real. These facts are needed for people to open their eyes.
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I fully agree, and I also get the need to focus on what we're moving toward as opposed to fighting against.
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@rok-sivante, Your Post? In a word: Wow. Salutations. JaiChai here. And I hope this finds you and yours healthy and loving life, my friend. There are so many topics from your post that I would love to comment on, but I'm still rubbing the sleep out of my eyes and drinking my first brew right now. So, I'm gon'na cheat and beef up a comment I posted very late last night. *Amigo, I know I am preaching to the choir when it comes to you. So, please indulge me. The following is for the benefit of our fellow Steemians, ok?* ...Linear thinking keeps people unaware that every measure of any lame, man-made scale of so-called discreet, progressive perceptions/grades/ratings - when taken to its logical end point - will eventually make a full circle. I wonder how many people would feel better about themselves if they knew that everyone always "does that for which they are rewarded"? Is that selfish? Before you answer that... What if I told you that both Mother Theresa and every despot in history (e.g., both Khans, Stalin, Hitler, etc.) got some kind of self-gratification when they did whatever they truly thought was "the right thing to do"? You see, even benevolence and sadism will make that circle and meet each other. Confused? Don't be. Can't decide what to do? Don't sweat it? Maybe this will help get your ass moving: *(Here's what I found to be the best, simplest policy to remember - and most importantly, to live by.)* Adapted from The Teachings of the Dalai Lama - "Be kind. And if you can't, just don't make things worse!" - JaiChai In other words, just do what you truly believe is right and don't get neurotic over it - even if there's a chance you may be wrong. Why? Because it's too easy to fall prey to "analysis paralysis"; falsely believing that you must (or can) know *everything* beforehand. This will surely keep you on the sidelines, while you watch others act on their version of your idea; leaving you with a burning urge to engage in an extended session of self-flagellation, no? Besides, if you thought what you are currently doing is "right", but sadly mistaken, believe me, the whole universe will tell you - in spades! So relax. Why don't you look - I mean really look - at the beautiful, "snapshots of duality" that sourrounds us - that are, in reality, perpetual cycles with no beginnnings and no end. Why don't you journey inward and see how everything will end at the beginning, and so it goes... Thanks for indulging my rants. Namaste, my friend. JaiChai P.S. "Perception is everything. While many can see a circle, only a very few can see the spiral." - JaiChai
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holy shit, dude. your writing is *powerful.*' >...Linear thinking keeps people unaware that every measure of any lame, man-made scale of so-called discreet, progressive perceptions/grades/ratings - when taken to its logical end point - will eventually make a full circle. this one got my mind in a twist, and what followed was a journey in itself. good stuff.
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Twisted? No way! Because: ![button-1174805_960_720_20171104125858236-800x762.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQ1akbTUdj7AukuDPUsjKLuyvPuR2v8ipbVVwbJZfacj7/button-1174805_960_720_20171104125858236-800x762.jpg) Lol! Namaste, my friend. JaiChai
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@rok-sivante, Mucho Props and Gratitude to you. Here's some Steemit Love. And I hope it gets you more... https://steemit.com/blog/@jaichai/ijch-snapshots-of-duality-props-and-gratitude-to-rok-sivante Namaste, JaiChai
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EXCELLENT POST !!!! Here is something shorter but holds many the same conclusions: **Where âAm-Iâ? What âAm-Iâ? What âAm-Iâ suppose to be doing here?** These are the 3 questions every child is confronted with. First they pop out of the womb into a bright and loud place that they know nothing about, and one they canât even perceive accurately. As they look around examining where they are they stumble into their body, maybe a hand or foot in their mouth that they for the first time recognize as a âselfâ separate from the experienced universe. If they gather enough information and make an accurate analysis of these first 2 questions they can come to an accurate conclusion on the 3ed question: âWhat Am I Suppose to âBEâ doing here?â Unfortunately society and traditions seek to confound the first 2 questions thereby making an accurate assessment of the 3ed nearly impossible for the average person on the planet. So, with this in mind lets analyses this self, this perception of âI-AMâ and see if we canât arrive at an accurate answer. **Where âAm-Iâ?** This one is not what one might think is the âcommon senseâ answer, say âon Earth in the Milky Way with the Local Group in the Universe at large. No, all that is just evidence as to where you really are. Where one really âISâ, is inside âMindâ. We are the âExperiencerâ, we are the âI-AMâ that is having the experience. This is a non-physical thing, outside of âspace-timeâ as can be proven by the fact that the experiencer is always in the âNowâ, the ongoing Eternal (outside of time) wow that is NOW. If one wants to look for further proof of this it is found in Quantum Physics and was shown in the early 1900âs with the âDual-Slit Experimentâ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc This experiment clearly shows that particles ONLY exist as âphysical matterâ when they interact with something else (when 2 things are âawareâ of each other and interact). When these so called particles are not interacting with an âotherâ they exist only as âwaves of potential statesâ, from which one state is collapsed upon when there is an interaction. So, the answer to âWhere Am-I?â is that you are INSIDE of MIND,,,, which answers the 2nd question: **What âAm-Iâ?** What we are is the âExperiencerâ. We are what is âawakeâ and having the experience of our body, or of driving our car or whatever experience you can think of or have. Some might be tempted to jump to the conclusion that this is their âpersonal Soulâ, but lets analyses that further. The âAct of Consciousnessâ or the act of being awake or the act of having an experience is not a noun, it is a verb. That means, as we already figured out, that âyouâ are not a physical thing (noun) you are an action that is happening (a verb). So ask yourself the question, what is the source of the action? There is ONE act of Consciousness that everything is taking part in, from the sub-atomic particles (as in the dual slit experiment) to plants, animals and you and I. Who Am I? = there is âNo Iâ, there is only the Act of Consciousness which the whole âphysical universeâ is being experienced in. This act of consciousness is the creator of the physical universe inside of Mind and therefore is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent the 3 most described aspects of âGodâ. So in conclusion, there is no âIâ, there is only âI-AMâ (aka God). In Buddhism this is what a Buddha understands, that his consciousness is not his own but is in fact Buddha Consciousness. So, to the important question: **What Am-I suppose to be doing here?** Well, if there is no me, and there is only the Creator, and the Creator gifts âexperiencing the Universeâ to every sub-part without condition (aka Unconditional gift of Love) even if the sub-part is a child molester or a murder or Illuminati/Vatican/Zionist scumbag, then it becomes clear. In the Christian metaphor Satan wants to sit on the Throne of God. That throne of course is CONSCIOUSNESS and Satan therefor is oneâs EGO, ones concept of âSelfâ, oneâs memories and understandings and predictions of reality that inevitably foul things up from their potential equilibrium. When we believe we are our name or our body we can not answer this question correctly. What are you suppose to be doing? You are suppose to be doing what GOD would do if God were in your position, because that is exactly the truth, and to be in denial of that is the source of the lie, the source of evil, the deception from the âegoâ Great Deceiver (aka Satan). Be present in the NOW, look in front of you and spread Love and Compassion on all that passes your way.
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