RE: Introducing Smackdown Kitty by davidnx

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· @davidnx · (edited)
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"People invest in Steem Power because they believe that Steem provides a desirable social function as well as an equitable distribution system for newly issued cryptocurrency."

This simply isn't true.
As I said in my other, reply on the other thread, why haven't those commentators, and, I am sure, some here, invested in Steem Power. A good number of those complaining about altruism and what is polite simply don't invest. It's very easy for them to talk about how people should vote. How altruistic are they being? 

"You are committing a logical fallacy in your question asking why people invest in steem power, as though the only mechanism for distribution is self voting."

No. You are simply introducing something that I never said. Look at the paragraph above and answer it.

"If you are that much of a bore nobody votes on you, why should the network bear the cost of your spammy self votes and give you money for giving nothing to nobody? The logical fallacy is called False Dichotomy. This is almost the favourite tool of political rhetoric. It is also an attempt to intimidate the querant and assumes they are stupid and don't realise the list of options has omissions."

I never addressed anything of the sort. If this is the best you can do in forming your argument against what I actually said?

I made some valid points. I think it is a failure on your part that you did not address them.
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@l0k1 · (edited)
You ask the question, why do people invest in steem power, and my answers don't fit your narrative. So you claim that therefore my point is invalid.

If you are really driving at the unspoken question, which is 'how do the people with low self esteem and talent earn money on steem' the answer is, they don't. There is a million other ways such a person can make a living honestly that do not require them to spam up a community blockchain with empty, vapid upvotes on their own, vapid, empty comments.

Also note, and I am not sure if it was Ned who coined the name, but the word Steem is shortened also from Esteem, which means 'to value something'. Excessive self esteem is called arrogance and conceit.
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@davidnx ·
"If you are really driving at the unspoken question, which is 'how do the people with low self esteem and talent earn money on steem' the answer is, they don't. There is a million other ways such a person can make a living honestly that do not require them to spam up a community blockchain with empty, vapid upvotes on their own, vapid, empty comments."

No I wasn't driving at that question. Why would I?

"Also note, and I am not sure if it was Ned who coined the name, but the word Steem is shortened also from Esteem, which means 'to value something'. Excessive self esteem is called arrogance and conceit."

Are you name calling? Just because I dare to question?
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@l0k1 · (edited)
You would not want to admit that is the case but why else would you cast self upvoting as so vital to the platform and the distribution if that was not implied?

Demonstrating that a person's blind spot towards an aspect of a debate resembles bad behaviour most certainly does not constitute an Ad Hominem fallacy.

I admire your desire to continue trying to find a way through my wall of reasons, don't stop, please. I am not trolling you in this statement, at all, this is why I have not made any such explicit declarations. 

You know, I could be wrong on a very critical point. I don't see it yet, and this is not the first debate I have had about this with people, as you can imagine. I would like you to keep looking as long as you feel dissatisfied with my answers, and probe me as much as you like. Of course if you were to start using Ad Hominems I would simply stop replying.

This is a collaborative process of truth discovery, vitally important to the progress of our species.
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@lexiconical ·
*" Excessive self esteem is called arrogance and conceit."*

How do you decide what is excessive (and why are you the decider?)
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@elfspice · (edited)
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![flagrewards.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmUpo62t2B9eTgwbGLq17svFUWpchCyH8wMRgiUNhogmtG/flagrewards.png)

You are also free to do as you wish with your voting power, and I use it to call people out for being egotistical, control freaks afraid they aren't going to get anyone voting on their content, deciding that the rewards should go to them.

Clearly I am within the rights defined even just on this site as a commonly accepted method of interaction with content that will receive unjust rewards.

Note that you will never see @l0k1 vote for @elfspice, since some also want to whine that stopping self voting on the interface and blockchain does not stop using alt accounts. I am resteeming all my new posts from the @elfspice account, however. Since, after all, it is me, same person, my followers will still want to see them.
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@mindhunter ·
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I notice @l0k1 has not got to this comment yet - I am in full agreement with you there @lexiconical :)
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