Viewing a response to: @abh12345/who-will-create-the-content-for-the-bid-bots-to-promote-in-the-future
curious, how about the scenarios where bot filtering can't be identified as the bot business farm out upvotes using accounts of legit voters and having access via steemconnect with active key request: Example: smartsteem and minnowbooster these are also the **2 more successful profit making business on Steem right now**, they can upvote a post $500 to $800 using Steemians with 200 SP or 2 Million SP, they can make it looks like you got 1000+ legitimate upvotes, and looking at the blockchain you can't tell any different. With the Steem blockchain wallet owners willing to give away their active key openly and liberally to business websites like this, won't all the other 100+ (and increasing) bot-owners just all evolved to do the same thing as this 2 big "Steem-Coorporation?" Even worst....why are we not rewarding legitimate flagging? Perhaps mechanism to take away the rewards of big bot farming (pile on and trending view) and self-upvoting (not getting flags) must be part of the solution moving forward.
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I can run a query and check everyone's wallet to see if they are being paid for their 'daily delegation' to these services. Similiar to what I was doing in this post: https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@abh12345/how-much-available-sp-is-there-for-steemit-com-content Everything is tracked, so it's just a case of having the will/need to get stuff done. Thanks for raising this :) > Even worst....why are we not rewarding legitimate flagging? Perhaps mechanism to take away the rewards of big bot farming (pile on and trending view) and self-upvoting (not getting flags) must be part of the solution moving forward. See https://steemit.com/@steemflagrewards and https://steemit.com/@flagawhale. It's happening :)
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author | abh12345 |
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I understand you can track who gets paid by smartsteem and minnowbooster, but we can't correlate an upvote done legitimately and an upvote that was done by the bidding company when a user Steem Power went up past a certain %-percentage, the bidding companies they transfer the funds payment internally, and they user move the SBD lump sum into the their account later, could be weeks, or months later. i've thought about this: - monitoring clusters of upvotes with no correlations but are regular payouts on smartsteem or minnowbooster (and mark that bids cluster if say it exceeds >$1.0 so it's removed from trending total) - just mass exclude all upvotes from all people who subscribe to smartsteem or minnowbooster or receive payment in the last x-number-of-day (eg. 7 days if they got bidding payment all the upvotes don't count for trending) find a solution, let me know, I look forward to seeing your feedback. i have visited both of them before, but I didn't know you were driving and supporting them, will go upvote https://steemit.com/@steemflagrewards and https://steemit.com/@flagawhale both sounds like very healthy initiatives. i like the names and the spirit of the initiatives! you got my witness vote: ![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXSEaHtsWmXuwzkjKa8p8Yg7Zvm5vfVgyY5gviMUXRD8f/image.png)
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author | dj123 |
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I was thinking just to rule out anyone currently delegating to / receiving payment from one of the services mentioned. It's a bit hardcore and perhaps the communities can come up with something better before we reach that point. I'm not in the driving seat with those initiatives, but I do like what they are trying to do - https://steemit.com/abuse/@anthonyadavisii/dailytop10open-s-spam-downvote-campaign-final-results-new-mmorpg-ranks Thank you very much for the witness vote!
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Congratulations! Your submission earned you 0.134 SBD from this bounty. You have received 0.123 SBD from the creator of the bounty and 0.010 SBD from the community!
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