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You wanted a discussion so here I am. I know you're not making a case. I mainly go from my experience having to deal with these requests. Kinda if I'm running a traditional social media page and need to take something off the site. It's still in my database and backups (due to redundancy) but it's off my site. Now that's in a centralized case. In a decentralized case, there's what, 400+ witnesses? They all have servers synced to various levels and there could be servers syncing and not broadcasting. It's not the avenue a prosecutor would take -- it's a waste of their time. Just like right now I'm trying to deal with the phishing domains. I know I can't get the site deleted so I'm going after the registrars, which is a lot more centralized than some site that can be hosted anywhere and mirrored ten times over. When you attack your enemy you take the easiest route, not the hardest.
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Except that some witnesses are known, can be traced and have made huge amounts of money from their actions - thus making them both an easy and profitable target.
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| author | ura-soul |
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| category | steem |
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Technically speaking, they made a huge amounts of digital items called 'tokens'. When they sell those otherwise worthless things they get a different type of equally-worthless digital 'tokens'. Should they trade those, then they get money. Steem Power isn't even a token actually. I think the issue at hand isn't whether the witnesses are responsible but whether the services are complicit in copyright infringement by enabling the activity without taking any mitigating actions or discouraging it in any way. In fact by doing so they victimize us, the witnesses, by allowing copyrighted content to flow onto the blockchain and onto our servers.
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| author | guiltyparties |
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The 'assets' in the form of Steem have a value and that is why many of the witnesses do what they do. The tokens are not worthless as evidenced by their value on many exchanges. Surely, steem power cannot be traded, but steem power is just steem held in a specific way until it is released and made liquid. This is less about what you or I think 'makes sense' and more about what lawyers can get away with based on case law. Numerous cases were launched against 'average people' for their use of Bittorrent and file sharing sites - even when they had just downloaded one mp3 file! Targetting server operators who can be said to be engaging in business practices, specifically renting a server for the purpose - who happen to also have maybe made $1 million USD in some cases - is a much more attractive target than one single mp3!
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