Viewing a response to: @aggroed/let-s-talk-about-flagging-and-use-this-recent-haejin-stuff-as-an-example
I never really knew flagging wars were a thing on here, but I am completely new to the platform and may be blissfully unaware. I have flagged some posts that I thought were spam, but never a post that I thought doesnt deserve the rewards it got. I guess it is simillar to downvoting in reddit. I think the impact of whales right now is simply too much. Right now, if you get noticed by a whale and he upvotes you for 200 + $ that is mainly due to luck and not quality content. If whale votes were somehow caped to some value of SBD, maybe the circle jerk and other simillar stuff would not be as profitable. Or maybe with every next upvote you do on the same content poster, the vote gets less and less percentage of your vote powet. This would also cut down on the circle jerk. I may have strayed from the point, but I think this is just the other side of the same coin, that flagging is designed to be...
| post_id | 21,947,655 |
|---|---|
| author | maticpecovnik |
| permlink | re-aggroed-let-s-talk-about-flagging-and-use-this-recent-haejin-stuff-as-an-example-20171225t201409728z |
| category | steem |
| json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["steem"]}" |
| created | 2017-12-25 20:14:09 |
| last_update | 2017-12-25 20:14:09 |
| depth | 1 |
| children | 5 |
| net_rshares | 5,222,080,073 |
| last_payout | 2018-01-01 20:14:09 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.022 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.005 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 911 |
| author_reputation | 12,365,800,117,459 |
| root_title | "Let's talk about flagging and use this recent @haejin stuff as an example." |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
| author_curate_reward | "" |
| voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| valued-customer | 0 | 5,222,080,073 | 25% |
the issue that started all this drama wasnt how much he was getting per post, but how much he was taking from the pool per day. Lots of posts go around with 200+ payouts, and no one care much. But they dont post 10 times a day with small posts, that grabs 200+ payouts on each one. A big part of the community thought it was absurd, and flagged to reduce his reward.
| post_id | 21,953,311 |
|---|---|
| author | phgnomo |
| permlink | re-maticpecovnik-re-aggroed-let-s-talk-about-flagging-and-use-this-recent-haejin-stuff-as-an-example-20171225t211837980z |
| category | steem |
| json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["steem"]}" |
| created | 2017-12-25 21:18:39 |
| last_update | 2017-12-25 21:18:39 |
| depth | 2 |
| children | 3 |
| net_rshares | 0 |
| last_payout | 2018-01-01 21:18:39 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 367 |
| author_reputation | 22,733,518,989,206 |
| root_title | "Let's talk about flagging and use this recent @haejin stuff as an example." |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
Aaaah now I understand. But because most of this was due to being upvoted constantly by the same whale it could be regulated by reducing the vote power per consecutive vote on the same person. There would be real curation in this way. I think, at least.
| post_id | 21,955,151 |
|---|---|
| author | maticpecovnik |
| permlink | re-phgnomo-re-maticpecovnik-re-aggroed-let-s-talk-about-flagging-and-use-this-recent-haejin-stuff-as-an-example-20171225t214011271z |
| category | steem |
| json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["steem"]}" |
| created | 2017-12-25 21:40:12 |
| last_update | 2017-12-25 21:40:12 |
| depth | 3 |
| children | 2 |
| net_rshares | 5,222,080,073 |
| last_payout | 2018-01-01 21:40:12 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.022 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.005 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 253 |
| author_reputation | 12,365,800,117,459 |
| root_title | "Let's talk about flagging and use this recent @haejin stuff as an example." |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
| author_curate_reward | "" |
| voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| valued-customer | 0 | 5,222,080,073 | 25% |
Exactly. It all sums up with the fact that the whale didnt had any activity before he started upvoting haejin, wich make things a lot more suspicious.
| post_id | 21,955,829 |
|---|---|
| author | phgnomo |
| permlink | re-maticpecovnik-re-phgnomo-re-maticpecovnik-re-aggroed-let-s-talk-about-flagging-and-use-this-recent-haejin-stuff-as-an-example-20171225t214812240z |
| category | steem |
| json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["steem"]}" |
| created | 2017-12-25 21:48:15 |
| last_update | 2017-12-25 21:48:15 |
| depth | 4 |
| children | 0 |
| net_rshares | 0 |
| last_payout | 2018-01-01 21:48:15 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 150 |
| author_reputation | 22,733,518,989,206 |
| root_title | "Let's talk about flagging and use this recent @haejin stuff as an example." |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
The end result is that the rogue votes of @ranchorelaxo were countered, and the rewards were returned to the pool, so whales could have them. The whales own the Steem, and thus the rewards. @haejin was merely collateral damage in the police action against @ranchorelaxo, who was giving away their money.
| post_id | 21,974,602 |
|---|---|
| author | valued-customer |
| permlink | re-maticpecovnik-re-phgnomo-re-maticpecovnik-re-aggroed-let-s-talk-about-flagging-and-use-this-recent-haejin-stuff-as-an-example-20171226t013933533z |
| category | steem |
| json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "users": ["ranchorelaxo", "haejin"], "tags": ["steem"]}" |
| created | 2017-12-26 01:39:39 |
| last_update | 2017-12-26 01:39:39 |
| depth | 4 |
| children | 0 |
| net_rshares | -271,320,709,697 |
| last_payout | 2018-01-02 01:39:39 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 305 |
| author_reputation | 48,231,784,822,393 |
| root_title | "Let's talk about flagging and use this recent @haejin stuff as an example." |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
| author_curate_reward | "" |
| voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| randowhale | 0 | -271,320,709,697 | -1% |
>"...I have flagged some posts that I thought were spam, but never a post that I thought doesnt deserve the rewards it got." This is because those rewards weren't being taken from YOUR rewards pool. Your % of equity in the pool is hardly impacted, no matter how much trenders get. This is vastly different for @berniesanders, and his 38 ilk on the platform. Indeed, his ROI is all that matters to him, and completely drives his behaviour on Steemit, and the substantial extraction of rewards from that pool by @haejin an extraordinarily powerful motivator for his flags, which are in turn a weapon perfectly targeted to maximally impact @haejin, whose motivations for participating on Steemit are monetary.
| post_id | 22,098,399 |
|---|---|
| author | valued-customer |
| permlink | re-maticpecovnik-re-aggroed-let-s-talk-about-flagging-and-use-this-recent-haejin-stuff-as-an-example-20171226t202430834z |
| category | steem |
| json_metadata | "{"app": "steemit/0.1", "users": ["berniesanders", "haejin"], "tags": ["steem"]}" |
| created | 2017-12-26 20:24:39 |
| last_update | 2017-12-26 20:24:39 |
| depth | 2 |
| children | 0 |
| net_rshares | 0 |
| last_payout | 2018-01-02 20:24:39 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 710 |
| author_reputation | 48,231,784,822,393 |
| root_title | "Let's talk about flagging and use this recent @haejin stuff as an example." |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |