RE: Happy to talk to community by moderndayhippie

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· @moderndayhippie ·
LoL, hostile take over? sure, after a hostile freezing of assets..  How can you justify one and not the other?? Oh, thats right, cuz your bias!  Stop circle jerking your witness friends and grow up.. Steemit witnesses pre-emptively striked first, they lost pathetically.. now your making demands when you have nothing! LoL...
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@lukestokes ·
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The fact that you say "steemit witnesses" shows how uninformed you are.

Steemit is not a blockchain.

It has no witnesses.
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@moderndayhippie · (edited)
LMAO, the fact that you are calling me out on a typo shows me how pathetic and bias you are!!   Wanna lay out any real facts to this comment or just be a fucking prick?
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@berniesanders ·
# Here is the original post from @justinsunsteemit:

https://i.imgur.com/eOTCP1y.png
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@infidel1258 ·
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The point is that cooler heads need to prevail here. Anyone writing on Steem, wants Steem to thrive. I for one hope the finger pointing can stop (from both sides) and we can figure this out.
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@pangoli ·
Funny that was the only thing you read. A typo.
I see bias all over this chain, and if people are not ready to reach an agreement to make things work, we're all fucked. 

@moderndayhippie is right. Witnesses have always been centralized on here. back then, it didn't matter how many people voted. Some of the best witnesses were never at the top. Just a group of friends voted in by 2 people freedom/pumpkin.

It's an outcry now because Sun is doing the same thing. 

I'm in no way justifying what he did, but have we all completely lost our minds on here? When has retaliating hostility with hostility ever worked?
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@crypto.piotr ·
Hi @lukestokes

That is simply game of words. i cant remember how often did I make mistake saying steemit instead of steem and the other way around.

one doesnt exist without the other.

And also @moderndayhippie had a good point. Soft fork was first low blow and shouldn't ever happened.
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@drakos ·
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We pre-emptively acted to prevent something like this, then it happened, point proven. His plan was to dump and exit, or haven't you heard?
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@moderndayhippie ·
Oh, I must of missed that memo... So you know for a fact what his plan was? You have insider information?  Can you please reference this material and tell me where you got it from?  

Oh yeah, and great job on stopping him from doing exactly this!  ;)  

So you're telling me that because the witnesses made a malicious pre-emptive strike on speculation, period.  Then Sun retaliated, period.  We don't know if one wouldve happened without the other..   So how does that make you "right" on knowing his actions for Steemit?  DO YOU REALIZE HOW STUPID YOU SOUND? LoL.. 

I have watched every podcast, read every tweet and kept close watch on all of this...  Just cuz your bias doesn't mean your right ;)
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@edicted ·
$0.22
god you are thick.  freezing that money was the only proper play.  he was testing out his coup on tron right after he bought steemit.  freezing the accounts wasnt an attack and everything would be fine right now if he talked to the witnesses before centalizing the chain.

you done got fooled by the biggest scammer in the space.  in ten years youll feel like a fool for defending him.  every decentralized community will banish people like justin sun in the future.  cutthroat capitalism has no place here.
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@berniesanders ·
# Here is the original post from @justinsunsteemit:

https://i.imgur.com/eOTCP1y.png
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@block.kids ·
Acted for yourselves to protect your witness positions, without telling the community about it.

With the way that witnesses/steemit inc meeting went, I don't think he had any motive to vote in witnesses. He did it because he wanted to protect his stake. That fact is as clear as day.

Also, some of you have zero negotiating skill and have no business being in such a meeting.

Sun wasn't going to dump steem. He's a businessman, he'd want his steem to be profitable and he'd sell them for profits.
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@drakos ·
> Acted for yourselves to protect your witness positions, without telling the community about it.

Is this why 95% of the witnesses adopted the soft fork 0.22.2, why the biggest takeholders endorsed it, and why the community has been rallying to vote for us to restore governance?

> Sun wasn't going to dump steem.

He literally said he wanted to make money and exit, that's a pump and dump if you don't know how to read between the lines.
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@berniesanders ·
# Here is the original post from @justinsunsteemit:

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@moderndayhippie ·
OMG, I'm honored to get a reply from THE @BERNIESANDERS! holy shit, i feel privileged!  But wait, where is the downvote that comes along with it?? LoL.. 

I guess I don't see the issue?  Yes he is going to use his vote to stake now, but how can he trust the top witnesses after the pre-emptive strike?  To me it seems like he wants to put people in there that have the same ideals as him to help push steemit to the next level..   This may have never happened if he didn't get his funds frozen, so i guess we *reap what we sow*. 

honestly the top 20 witnesses have never given a fuck about me, i have seen them rape this chain and the community for nearly 3 years.. they are just mad they are loosing their power and free lunch.. The witnesses fucked people for years with bidbots, but we should be fine with that right? Cuz they are one of us??  

Don't get this confused Mr. Sanders, I do not like justin sun or tron one bit, but I am sick and tired of how the top witnesses have fucked over this chain and done nothing but profit off of it.. Maybe we need a shake up in management.. Maybe Justin Sun does want steemit to do well so he can make money off his investment.. I honestly don't know or care in all reality... All i do know is that top witnesses did something really fucking dirty and now we are all paying the price for it.. But for some reason, i am supposed to still have their backs??  I think not, they won't even answer my comments.. LoL

Be mad at me all you want, thats ok, it's called transference and I am here for you buddy ;)  Downvote the fuck out of me for having an opposing agreement, cuz let's be honest, that's what you do ;) But you know what, that is alright, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and actions..  Take care friend.. I honestly wish you nothing but the best with all this cuz i know you are much much much more heavily invested in steem then me..  Good luck.
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@berniesanders ·
# Here is the original post from @justinsunsteemit:

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@infidel1258 ·
I think your approach is harsh and cold, but I agree with the general premise you are asserting. 

In a nut shell, Sun bought steemit inc, and yes that did include the ninja stake. Like it or lump it, thats his, and however ned operated, or whatever hand shake deal he had is not applicable to Sun. 

If we wanted that stake to be unable to vote, we should have codified that into reality, not trusted the key holder. 

In the end, I hope the witnesses see that Sun wants this to succeed too. Help him, help Steem.
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@moderndayhippie ·
My response is pretty shitty, you're right there!!  I hate being this way but I have been nothing but berated for the last week so I have lost all of my "niceness".. Sorry friend.. I'm just beat down at this point..
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@paulmp ·
It wasn't a hostile freezing of assets. It was a pre-emptive enforcing of previously arranged agreements with Steemit, when Justin bought Steemit, he was bound by the agreements of Steemit.
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@moderndayhippie · (edited)
OMG, you are so brilliant!  How could I ever fight this dumb ass remark??  LoLz..

Please send me these references that everyone keeps quoting about, cuz I can't find them!  There were some "promises" by @ned, that is in no way, shape, or form of a binding contract!  But you are a lawyer that knows so much right?  So please please please tell me all about this "promise" law, cuz apparently I missed that while I was in law school!.. So I would love to hear your expertise on this situation.. Lmao.. Until then, FUCK OFF!
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@paulmp ·
Sarcasm followed by hostile and foul language, no point in trying to respond reasonably with someone who clearly just wants to be "right" and has no interest in an actual discussion. There is zero need to be so rude, have a great day!
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@crypto.piotr ·
I actually agree with you @moderndayhippie, that soft fork was nothing more than provocation (first low blow within this conflict).
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@moderndayhippie ·
Thanks @crypto.piotr, It's nice to know other steemians can see things for what they are..  I have been getting downvoted relentlessly since I started speaking out against the witnesses/whales..  It honestly is so bad that I am going to power down and cash out because I can't be on a platform that lies so bad about being "decentralized" while obviously being a totalian regime.  It's basically go with the status quo or be destroyed by them.. LoL.. Not quite the "decentralization" I was looking for.. It's really sad considering I have been on this platform for over 2.5 years.. But at least I can see things for how they really are now :/  Take care my friend.  I wish you the best of luck!
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