RE: This is a PAY IT FORWARD POST to help our friend @dianargenti here. Her father passed away & she needs funds to complete the burial AND help her family. We dropped the ball on helping her Steemit Family. by azfix

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· @azfix ·
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The rewards just need to go directly to @dianargenti as I mentioned a few comments below, if you want them to go to her directly vote on her latest content. I give @barrydutton credit for giving her more exposure but I am disappointed in him for not giving her all the rewards.
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@son-of-satire ·
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Interestingly, I just went to vote on Dian's active comments and I came across a correspondence between the two where he asks for her blessing to make this post. 

To which she replied;

> Hello my @barrydutton were ok for now don't worry about us though trying hard here but we can cope up with a little help from the senior citizen which my parents is a member. Don't worry my friend I guess wat I have save from here is a big help already at least. We been able to delivered him in his final rest. His seems quite like sleeping and he rest calmly. I don't know how to thank u my friend I'll post my blog soon thanking everyone especially you. God bless u with your kindness. I'm fine now, and I'll be alive soon :)

So according to that message, she said no. Unless there is a later comment where she changed her mind that I missed, I think this is all the evidence one needs to see that this is not about helping her at all. She did not even want this, based on that comment.
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@azfix ·
That is really sad if that is indeed the case, using someones death to profit is pretty low in my book. My votes still went to her posts instead of this one as I am not sure how much of this will really get to her anyways.
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@son-of-satire · (edited)
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I don't doubt that she will get the liquid, but yes, that is my main problem with this. Seeing another human's death as a potential exploit. This fucking world we live in has us exhibiting the very ugliest versions of ourselves. I don't even blame Barry. I blame the world that we have allowed to develop around us. It's all our faults.
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@dianargenti ·
Sir I'm so sorry if I'm confusing and not being understood for English is just my third language and I can't fully put in words what I wanted to say which is so hard for I can't fully let out my feelings. About that comment before that I already know that he will do a post for me. And didn't mention in there that I still need the favor he wanted to make for I already felt ashamed because he already did a big part in helped me, but still know he will made the post to give me more help even if I will asked him or not because he said it so to me before and I'm still hoping for it. I may not exactly asked him to do it but I also don't  say don't so it for we have understanding in  our own language that given help is also given favor to each other. I'm winning a friend in you for you are indeed also a good person as I can see it. And it is hard to me to see that issues about this arises to both parties. If this need to be cleared up in one single words to have peace between then this is the one word that I came up to ease the tension. I still do need help the help which Barry did for me and I'm so thankful and grateful for him for doing so. For he only do the promise he made for he knew I still need it. And you are one that I will thank for, for you do give me your support and favor and I am so glad I have known someone like you too. I do not know how to ease the arguments which was being brought up in this blog post everything seems cloudy and I couldn't Express to everyone what I wanted to say. But u are one of important person which I must address for u only want what's due for me and thank u so much for that. I'll be okey and time of what I can have Tru my friends Barry post and for it will be a big help in my side and this is the last post about asking help and favor for me for we both go on of what we had not all do here in the community. Assuring what help I can keep and have from my post before and from my friend Barry's post will be properly utilized and used to it's purpose. Thank u so much.
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@son-of-satire · (edited)
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There is no argument. I stopped replying to him days ago when I realised this was just about defending his character to ensure that he can use this model for fundraising again without questions. 

I have the deepest sympathies for you and your family, @Dianargenti, but I am not going to have a proxy discussion with Barry through you. Please stop allowing yourself to be manipulated so easily. The very fact that he is leading you to believe you have to come here and defend him shows that to him, his image is more important than your suffering. If you cannot tell at  this point that he is using you and your dead father, I really don't know what there is that I can tell you to make you see. Perhaps you are already aware, but feel you are stuck defending him until he gives you the liquid rewards. I don't know anymore. But this has all become too ugly and I want nothing to do with it any longer.

 I will donate all the money I have earned from comments on here to you. Beyond that, I would quite like to be completely removed from this entire situation, so you will forgive me if I do not participate in this charade any longer.

My best wishes go to your family.
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@barrydutton ·
@azfix:  

Well, Dian has spoken -- that link takes you right to her comment -- just give it several seconds to load.- it takes a long time, presumably because of the sheer amount of comments.  It is at the end of my comments/overview here for you.  

The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???


You might want to consider sending this to some people who have voted and commented on this, and the related whales who have downvoted or removed support from this -- because Dian's opinion matters the most here and this behaviour in the post has grieved her further.

She is very nice.  

The TLDR version in brief:  

- Is that she still needs funds, as I tried to tell everyone on this thread and provided proof.  

- That the attacks on me and flags have made her sad and during the time when she needed to focus on her family, which is true, and she considers me a brother, (which makes me smile!)

- That she has no problem with the 50/50 format and her getting the liquid rewards and me keeping the steem power at all because I have helped her a lot, and it is her way of thanking me, and that Steemit is a give and take community (about halfway thru her reply)  and again, similar statements right at the end of her post.  

- That she has been offline due to her area in her nation having issues.

- That she wishes the flags be removed and the post supported, and names the whales in doing so.

- That she appreciates all I have done for her over the weeks and knows my heart is right and I have supported her for a long time.  That she knows I view Steemit as community and family and work hard to help out.

-- I have drafted this overview for the benefit of the commenters on the post and am sending this pasted to several people who flagged or downvoted the post, since I know 90% of you / them will miss her reply because it is buried at the bottom of the posts, and so nothing is missed or misinterpreted if everyone gets the same message.  


Dian has spoken.  Now you have to decide how you are going to handle this.   I will not be replying to comments on this, it has turned nasty by a handful of people, where the vast majority of voters and commenters had no issue with this --- nor did Dian and that should carry weight -- her words.  

She has always been my focus here -- and her opinion should be heard and matter more than anyone's here.  

I will say it again for emphasis -- The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???

Dian's reply to this thread, directly here in this thread -- but here is the direct link since there is close to 400 comments now.  

https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the#@dianargenti/re-barrydutton-this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the-20170814t184403899z
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@azfix · (edited)
I still stand by my opinion that she should get all the rewards and not just 50% even if she says its okay for you to take half. I respect your choice, that is why I did not vote for or flag your post in any way. I give you credit for bringing more awareness to her situation and I continue to upvote her content at 100% as I encourage others to do.
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@barrydutton ·
Me too, I am glad you and others have continued on after the issue was raised on her needs.

She is very very nice.

Thanks for commenting here and how you have handled things without forcing your opinions on me, or flagging me, or namecalling, etc.

I think that is good.

Thank you for that and continuing to support Dian.   

Post pays out tomorrow nite to her, unless it gets extended very late past midnight, when I will be in bed.
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