Well I didn't say it is a scam. I am being optimistic here and hoping that my suspicions are unwarranted. But we will know soon enough I suppose.

@bdl1165:

Well, Dian has spoken -- that link takes you right to her comment -- just give it several seconds to load.- it takes a long time, presumably because of the sheer amount of comments.  It is at the end of my comments/overview here for you.  

The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???


You might want to consider sending this to some people who have voted and commented on this, and the related whales who have downvoted or removed support from this -- because Dian's opinion matters the most here and this behaviour in the post has grieved her further.

She is very nice.  

The TLDR version in brief:  

- Is that she still needs funds, as I tried to tell everyone on this thread and provided proof.  

- That the attacks on me and flags have made her sad and during the time when she needed to focus on her family, which is true, and she considers me a brother, (which makes me smile!)

- That she has no problem with the 50/50 format and her getting the liquid rewards and me keeping the steem power at all because I have helped her a lot, and it is her way of thanking me, and that Steemit is a give and take community (about halfway thru her reply)  and again, similar statements right at the end of her post.  

- That she has been offline due to her area in her nation having issues.

- That she wishes the flags be removed and the post supported, and names the whales in doing so.

- That she appreciates all I have done for her over the weeks and knows my heart is right and I have supported her for a long time.  That she knows I view Steemit as community and family and work hard to help out.

-- I have drafted this overview for the benefit of the commenters on the post and am sending this pasted to several people who flagged or downvoted the post, since I know 90% of you / them will miss her reply because it is buried at the bottom of the posts, and so nothing is missed or misinterpreted if everyone gets the same message.  


Dian has spoken.  Now you have to decide how you are going to handle this.   I will not be replying to comments on this, it has turned nasty by a handful of people, where the vast majority of voters and commenters had no issue with this --- nor did Dian and that should carry weight -- her words.  

She has always been my focus here -- and her opinion should be heard and matter more than anyone's here.  

I will say it again for emphasis -- The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???

Dian's reply to this thread, directly here in this thread -- but here is the direct link since there is close to 400 comments now.  

https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the#@dianargenti/re-barrydutton-this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the-20170814t184403899z

good day sir, if u think doing a favor for a friend to help is a scam then I don't know how to you explain to you my part. is being dead is also a scam? Please think for I know my brother and been here for a while knowing him. Thank u for ur good thoughts.

Interestingly, I just went to vote on Dian's active comments and I came across a correspondence between the two where he asks for her blessing to make this post. 

To which she replied;

> Hello my @barrydutton were ok for now don't worry about us though trying hard here but we can cope up with a little help from the senior citizen which my parents is a member. Don't worry my friend I guess wat I have save from here is a big help already at least. We been able to delivered him in his final rest. His seems quite like sleeping and he rest calmly. I don't know how to thank u my friend I'll post my blog soon thanking everyone especially you. God bless u with your kindness. I'm fine now, and I'll be alive soon :)

So according to that message, she said no. Unless there is a later comment where she changed her mind that I missed, I think this is all the evidence one needs to see that this is not about helping her at all. She did not even want this, based on that comment.

@azfix:  

Well, Dian has spoken -- that link takes you right to her comment -- just give it several seconds to load.- it takes a long time, presumably because of the sheer amount of comments.  It is at the end of my comments/overview here for you.  

The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???


You might want to consider sending this to some people who have voted and commented on this, and the related whales who have downvoted or removed support from this -- because Dian's opinion matters the most here and this behaviour in the post has grieved her further.

She is very nice.  

The TLDR version in brief:  

- Is that she still needs funds, as I tried to tell everyone on this thread and provided proof.  

- That the attacks on me and flags have made her sad and during the time when she needed to focus on her family, which is true, and she considers me a brother, (which makes me smile!)

- That she has no problem with the 50/50 format and her getting the liquid rewards and me keeping the steem power at all because I have helped her a lot, and it is her way of thanking me, and that Steemit is a give and take community (about halfway thru her reply)  and again, similar statements right at the end of her post.  

- That she has been offline due to her area in her nation having issues.

- That she wishes the flags be removed and the post supported, and names the whales in doing so.

- That she appreciates all I have done for her over the weeks and knows my heart is right and I have supported her for a long time.  That she knows I view Steemit as community and family and work hard to help out.

-- I have drafted this overview for the benefit of the commenters on the post and am sending this pasted to several people who flagged or downvoted the post, since I know 90% of you / them will miss her reply because it is buried at the bottom of the posts, and so nothing is missed or misinterpreted if everyone gets the same message.  


Dian has spoken.  Now you have to decide how you are going to handle this.   I will not be replying to comments on this, it has turned nasty by a handful of people, where the vast majority of voters and commenters had no issue with this --- nor did Dian and that should carry weight -- her words.  

She has always been my focus here -- and her opinion should be heard and matter more than anyone's here.  

I will say it again for emphasis -- The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???

Dian's reply to this thread, directly here in this thread -- but here is the direct link since there is close to 400 comments now.  

https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the#@dianargenti/re-barrydutton-this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the-20170814t184403899z

After I commented, I scrolled down to have a read, and I did notice a lot of this guilt tripping you speak of. Comments like "Bernie flagged this 3 times or Dian's family would have more."

Now, this is quite clearly attempted emotional manipulation, which I do find to be very unbecoming. However, I didn't want to jump to any conclusions, because there is a chance that the manipulation was done for her and her family. 

But when you tell me that after all that, he did not even resteem the very post that this is apparently about making up for, I think that is enough for me to make a decision. I am very disappointed.

I will go and do the same as you.

Hi - Here is what I sent to Dian after the post payout tonite, just keeping you in the loop: 

> I paid you out within about 5 mins of the post being paid to me -- Here is the post I did on it for the community.    Have a good weekend  my friend.  

https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/donation-post-proof-of-payout-tonight-dianargenti-paid-out-as-promised-extra-sent-tonite-as-well-as-the-extra-sbd-sent-to-her

You are removing your support for Dian when you DV this or remove a vote.  That is the reality.

Read my blog and look at my comments, instead of 2-4 people here inciting problems -- some of whom just don't like me.


Not a handful of comments. Look at the body of work.

Unbalanced statements from a handful of people like this manufacturing a problem, do not help Dian, Steemit, or the community here.

I know you deleted your comments when I asked you what I did @weirdheadaches (and I have chronic pain like you, FYI, so we related on this too) 

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Well, Dian has spoken -- that link takes you right to her comment -- just give it several seconds to load.- it takes a long time, presumably because of the sheer amount of comments.  It is at the end of my comments/overview here for you.  

The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???


You might want to consider sending this to some people who have voted and commented on this, and the related whales who have downvoted or removed support from this -- because Dian's opinion matters the most here and this behaviour in the post has grieved her further.

She is very nice.  

The TLDR version in brief:  

- Is that she still needs funds, as I tried to tell everyone on this thread and provided proof.  

- That the attacks on me and flags have made her sad and during the time when she needed to focus on her family, which is true, and she considers me a brother, (which makes me smile!)

- That she has no problem with the 50/50 format and her getting the liquid rewards and me keeping the steem power at all because I have helped her a lot, and it is her way of thanking me, and that Steemit is a give and take community (about halfway thru her reply)  and again, similar statements right at the end of her post.  

- That she has been offline due to her area in her nation having issues.

- That she wishes the flags be removed and the post supported, and names the whales in doing so.

- That she appreciates all I have done for her over the weeks and knows my heart is right and I have supported her for a long time.  That she knows I view Steemit as community and family and work hard to help out.

-- I have drafted this overview for the benefit of the commenters on the post and am sending this pasted to several people who flagged or downvoted the post, since I know 90% of you / them will miss her reply because it is buried at the bottom of the posts, and so nothing is missed or misinterpreted if everyone gets the same message.  


Dian has spoken.  Now you have to decide how you are going to handle this.   I will not be replying to comments on this, it has turned nasty by a handful of people, where the vast majority of voters and commenters had no issue with this --- nor did Dian and that should carry weight -- her words.  

She has always been my focus here -- and her opinion should be heard and matter more than anyone's here.  

I will say it again for emphasis -- The balanced thing to do, since everyone has an opinion --- is for the whales to Upvote this at full power, to move Dian's reply to the top of the comments, to find more easily for everyone, since the post is from her, and about her but I am not holding out much hope for that.-- those big votes would also pay her directly, and that is our focus as well here, right???

Dian's reply to this thread, directly here in this thread -- but here is the direct link since there is close to 400 comments now.  

https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the#@dianargenti/re-barrydutton-this-is-a-pay-it-forward-post-to-help-our-friend-dianargenti-here-her-father-passed-away-and-she-needs-funds-to-complete-the-20170814t184403899z

Give her the illiquid rewards. End of discussion.

@barrydutton, I'm still reading your donating the liquid rewards, and the community wants you to donate the Steem you receive as well.  This post is about a man who died and it has made me sick to my stomach.  I wish I never read it now.

> I have been out of the house all day, I need help dealing with the simple things now, with my injuries from the car running me over as most people know who actually deal with me or talk to me, or interact with me.

I don't see the relevance of this. It has nothing to do with what we are discussing and I can only presume it is another attempt to manipulate readers into giving you sympathy. 

> I state right in the post the liquid rewards would go to her, and even put her donation addresses for people to send things to if they want because frankly, every $5 or $10 counts no matter how it gets to someone in need.

If every dollar counts, why are you not giving her every dollar?

> I have no idea why as soon as 1 person here, who does not like me -- sowed the seeds of discord, and doubt, a bunch of other people decide to chime in, say awful things about me and make allegations etc etc.

My comment was nothing to do with Bernie's if that is what you are implying. I did not see his until after I began to scroll down after posting my own, and I did not attack you at all. I was very reasonable, this reply of yours so far is not.

> So because I go out of my way, to raise awareness of an issue, that like my post says - we COLLECTIVELY dropped the ball on, now I have to do whatever a couple of people say here, forcing their will upon me and sowing dissent, or else I am the BAD GUY here????

I think we have different definitions of "going out of my way." And I do not think such a phrase can even be used by someone who is getting paid. 

> I was run down by a car as many of you know and basically disabled and being screwed by the state, so I have been online more, stuck in the house, trying to find a way to not give up on life and still help others, like I was trying to do on this post here.

Honestly, most of what I have read so far up to this point is absolutely nothing to do with what we are supposed to be talking about. And again, you are attempting to make me, or more likely the other readers, feel guilty. Well, your attempted manipulations have just worked out rather badly for you. Because all this wheelchair victim shit has just reminded me of another fundraising post, that I believe it may have been aunt-deb done for YOU. I also remember withholding my vote after examining your wallet to find that you were not powering down, and therefore not truly as desperate as the shit suggested. I really ought to stop smoking weed, because if I had remembered that, I would not even have wasted time giving you the benefit of the doubt as I did in this instance. 

>  I have 900 blogs up and 18,000 comments,

Again, I don't see the relevance of this. I have made only about 3000 comments. Does that mean I am any less entitled to an opinion, or of any less value to this community than you? You may have made 900 posts, but almost every post I ever seen of yours was like, "Bitcoin gone up to $2761 in Canada!" and then of course again when it went up another 3 dollars. That isn't content. So if you have posted 900 of those, and if you have made 18,000 comments in such a short space of time, all I am getting from this comment of yours is that you are a spammer. 

> I thought stuff like this was why @ned and @dan / @dantheman created this ---- to lift one another up and help people, and not force anything on people and not censor people unless abuse was happening or bullying, or flat out lies. 

I think they made Steemit so they could make money. But, again, irrelevant. 

> Not sure why more people are not actively trying to help out humanity, but hey, I am not here to judge, ---- I will leave that to some of you that feel you are called to.

I would label this pomposity if this comment hadn't so clearly revealed your true colours to me. Now I know it's just bullshit. 

> I had no friends on this platform when I joined -- but now I have some here.

Boo fucking hoo. Again, why does this matter?

> I built up what I have with hard work and honesty and learning my way. I decided (again, like I said in my post!) -- we could do better and someone needed to step up and do the work to help her a bit more.

Hahha. *Honesty.* 

> She said she needed around $800 plus other expenses. Her post made $240. I am no math expert but I know that leaves her way short and likely too timid or upset or stressed to ask for help AGAIN, like I said already.

So you could have said, "Hey everyone, we dropped the ball on this one. Can you go and upvote Dian's latest posts." There is no logical reason that I can think of for you to attempt to keep the liquid rewards other than attempting to profit from a man's death and a family's bereavement. 

> If you people who now take issue with this, because I stepped in to help a friend, had done your jobs on here as Steemit Family --- you would have seen her post like I said, upvoted it, resteemed it, asked 1 or 2 whales to help on it, and she would be great! Because she asked me for help on that post for her family on my page, and I was glad to do it.

Do you have no shame at all. You are going to now label us the cunts to try and draw attention away from your own cuntish behaviour?  This is not going to work.

> But you didn't. So I decided to help. The best way I could -- and NOW a handful of you are forcing opinions on me, using your words to sow doubt about my character, vote down this post and my comments here, all harming Dian??????

Ironically, I was up there defending your character. I told people let's give him a chance because we may be getting this wrong. It is this message of yours that has shown me the truth.

>  Some of YOU have made it about me, --- costing our sister Dian likely some more grief as we are friends --- and you have cost her a solid bunch of payout that is going to her.

Honestly, I am feeling sicker and sicker the further into this message I get. I think your bullshit might fool the average idiot, but it is transparent as fuck to me. You can use this term of endearment, "sister" to try and convince others that you see Steemit as a huge family. But, if this was the case, you don't seize an opportunity to capitalize on your sister's suffering. Further more, her dad just died. If you truly had any level of empathy in you, you would know how insignificant someone questioning your honour would be to her right now. But then again, if you had any empathy, you wouldn't have done this in the first place.

> Which one of you is going to author the next post to help her out, since a handful of you here have likely cost her easily another $1000 or $1500 that was due to be transferred to her on payout in about 30 seconds from my wallet to hers in a week?

I will. And I will do it correctly. 

> Instead of wasting your time, sowing doubt and discord here --- you could have been using that time, to actively help this sister out --- asking 1 or 2 whales for help in chat. Messaging people on Twitter or Fedbook for help or spreading word, globally --- so people would read the post --- maybe join Steemit seeing a caring community. Maybe they see her LiteCoin or BTC or ETH donation addresses - and send her something.

I don't consider exposing swindlers to be a waste of time. Furthermore, I am helping our sister by making Steemit a more honest place. Also, you just sent a 12000 word reply or some shit. You could have been spending that time helping her, instead of attempting to justify a shitty decision. And failing miserably at it too.

> But no. You decide to attack me and make this about ME-- with your dark and leading and forceful comments leading others to believe the worst about me, and about Steemit --- and steal something beautiful from Dian, and our community..... AGAIN.

My dark and leading comments? Either you did not read them or this is an awfully ironic attempt to mislead readers and paint me as the villain here.

> I should have sat on the sidelines, knowing it was within my power here to to do good and go the extra mile for someone in need like nearly everyone here?

No one is asking you to go a mile. Only a foot upwards and to the right. Then click, and select your wallet. Then press power down, and give the woman the money that she her family fucking needs, obviously far more than you if you haven't had the need to power down even after getting another Steemian to raise money for you and your "troubles."

> I am glad for the people who are supporting this post, supporting and donating to Dian and thank them. As for the rest of you, I just think you should be ashamed of your behaviour and seeing who is going to do the next post to help her out, and hopefully get her $1000 since you cost her that in this post ---- and that is despite some huge whale votes here for the positive ---- and some huge whale votes I can see that actually downvoted this post besides Bernies several accounts.

I thank you sincerely for this bit of comedy. It has helped with the nausea. Also, I understand that probably sounds like I am being facetious, but I can assure you that I say this with the utmost sincerity.  This is perhaps the most disgusting piece of human behaviour that I have had the displeasure of witnessing on this platform, which is no small thing considering the rampant spamming, self-voting and vote-selling that is currently going on. For you to have the gall to tell me that I ought to be ashamed of myself is exactly the sort of bullshit I needed to provide me with a laugh to suppress the vomit that was about to come out of my mouth. Again, I am 100% serious, though i will admit the nausea is not entirely related to you. But my God you have made it worse.

> 27 - Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to act.

Is this a coincidental piece of irony, or is God telling you to stop being a cunt and go power down. Give her the fucking money, as it is within your power, and those upvotes came from people who wanted to help her. Not some greedy, dishonest, disingenuous arsehole. 

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### This could have all been avoided if you had just been a human being.

> Who among you I ask, is going to go the extra mile for Dian next, since this post has been whale downvoted and her rewards suppressed??????

https://steemit.com/humanity/@son-of-satire/important-let-s-help-someone-today-steemit-what-do-you-say

I would certainly not consider this a mile, but it is what I have to offer. If you care about redeeming yourself at all, or about Dian and her family, you will resteem it. Goodbye.