I tried the site http://steem.supply/ and as soon as I open it, my AntiVirus reports a virus in the site, and disinfects it by deleting the file. 

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmbFyuhJ5hyhDpMSi71i1D6xcsKBGdMjAb9TnH9LnAxuAQ/image.png)

Perfectly explained! People should learn and inform much better before accusing someone else...
I remember your post announcing the introduction of JSEcoin banner in your app. Service...
Fully supporting you.
Have a nice day!

I guess they are just jealous of the great work you are doing for this community. 
I didn't know that on the blockchain everything that you say can't be changed.
Keep it up!!! Haters gonna hate.

Go ahead @dragosroua you are doing excellent in the steemit community.

Thanks for clarifying @dragosroua - hope it will calm the discussion. Appreciate this post and the ones calling you bad words have not got a proper education maybe - was that in chats or is it on the blockchain :-)?

Thanks for the clarification.
I must admit that I was concerned and did not do any research to find out the truth.

Are you active on discord?

I hear you and I do remember reading it about it on one of your posts and I have also seen it on the bottom of the page.
***Might want to add a opt in or opt out though.***

I appreciate you mentioned this openly in a post, but it needs to be clear on your site.   Visitors are not expected to read a post from 2 months ago to know you are running a coin miner on the site.

The "disclosure" disappears after like 1-2 seconds, far sooner than most people take to reach the bottom of the page.

Something like this should be opt-in not an opt-out if you can find the button before it fades away.  UFC removed this from their site within hours of it being discovered for a reason.  The only reason that "disclosure" fades, is so no one sees it and opt's out.  

It doesn't matter how profitable it is,  it is not a cool thing to do.

I don't really know you, so I never called you any names or called you anything for that matter. I just said I thought there should be more transparency, especially of witnesses.  I'm sorry if my post caused that to happen.  My post wasn't a hatchet job, I was mainly focused on UFC doing it to paid subscribers with a two-line blurb that a well known Steem site run by a witness is doing it.

I respect your explanation and  I think more of you that you did disclose this somewhere prior, but I still don't agree with it and to me, it is like leaving a note for your mother under your mattress that you borrowed $30.  It should be clear on the site for your visitors,  not in some 'disclosure' that disappears almost immediately thus hiding the disclosure and opt-out functionality.

PS: I think you mean scapegoat, not escape goat.  That made me chuckle.

I think it's very clever that you are able to do that. People are getting a free service from you, and a very good one at that!  You've always been open and honest about whatever you've been doing, so keep going as you are.

Like you say, people don't read.

I personaly think that web miners "stealing" some of my cpu cycles  are less annoying than adds that stalks me. But thats only my personal opinion!

You've posted a lot of beautiful ones.
I liked your post.

Please upvote and comment in my post. And I will replay my comment.

hey, did you go to steemfest? i did not see you. but i did look for you.

A single mention in a post 2 months ago, and a small auto hiding footer really aren't acceptable disclosure imho. 

> Escape goat

This mental image made up for it tho, thx for the giggle at least. I'm just gonna back away and agree to disagree about this.

I'll be honest, I totally missed this information, yet I don't fucking care either, you're an amazing witness, steem.supply is an amazing site that I also use frequently and my CPUs are okay with that, too.

So overall, in my view, you absolutely deserve it-

While I personally go for CoinHive and Monero, as they are already proven and established, I gave a try to JSECoin too, with some personal usage.

Hi @dragosroua, you and @themarkymark were two of the first people that I encountered on Steemit. I have the utmost respect for the work that you do here and outside of this community, so it is difficult when there are opposing opinions about what is the 'right' or 'wrong' thing to do here. I try to tell people that Jedi and Seth are not 'good' or 'evil', but merely opposing forces required to keep the balance in the universe. I am just happy that there is an open and honest discussion for everyone to see, and similar to other cases where certain things have been implied or fingers pointed at specific users. In most instances I have been able to see both sides of the story and therefore able to come to my own conclusions - which is that you two are still both on my witness vote list (but I hope that doesn't offend either of you)...

loved the transparency :)

Not having an opt-in form, with explicit consent for the visitors to steem.supply and people not understanding that their cpu power is being used without their knowledge and permission is something I am surprised you don't see the importance of. I rarely flag anything these days, but this lack of transparency from a witness, is pretty disturbing. This is a slipperly slope you have just entered, and to be honest, I am pretty shocked. 

We don't want outsiders to connect Steem with coin mining on innocent people's browsers without their knowledge, but this is what is currently happening. Your lack of concern about the issues that markymark has raised is the most troubling part of this.

I personally think that browser mining could be a great replacement for advertising if done well. I read not too long ago that [The Pirate Bay was running a miner too](https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-website-runs-a-cryptocurrency-miner-170916/). The reaction here is not a million miles from that.

The real question is not whether it's permissible, it's really cool, and there's no legal requirement to publicize usage (yet, see below), but whether or not it's done ethically. I have to side with most people and say that they way you did it was not ethical.

The one thing you said above but did not address is that **it's for your profit**. It certainly is. I see the real issue in people's minds here is that it's a reversal of miner beneficiary, and it's follows the pattern of malware. It will have a negative impact on computer performance for the user, though they may not notice. You are requiring them to pay for access to your website in a way that is not totally up front.

The notice needs to be loud and clear. For example, like the European cookies notices, it needs to be always visible until intentionally dismissed. This insures to a basic level that it is read and noticed.

The best way to run an experiment like this is to allow user to opt in to the service in someway. It could be a "mine wall", similar to a pay wall, that has a full screen notice blocking entry unless you accept the terms, which allow mining. Or it could be a premium version of the site which uses the miner. Either way if I were you I'd be less defensive about it and admit you dropped the ball slightly, especially since it's now a business for you.

Incidentally I would expect a ruling from state, international and federal bodies on this kind of thing too if it becomes popular, perhaps a ban. So it might be wise to stay 100% above board.

Hi @dragosroua - I first want to say that I appreciate your contributions to Steem and you were one of the first people I followed and supported as witness when i first joined the platform.

I see both sides of this "discussion". On one hand I think that using cryptocurrencies as a new way to monetize websites is a great concept (note that I say concept since it's not mature enough for me to evaluate how it will go in practice).

I think that it's something the Steem community should be especially supportive of researching and experimenting with. I, for one, would welcome the option to choose using my computing power to mine a currency to support the content I like to consume rather than seeing ads or paying a subscription fee.

On the other hand, recently there have been numerous, high-profile cases of popular sites using cryptocurrency miners in unethical and irresponsible manners. Unfortunately, like with all things, a few bad actors can ruin things and make things more difficult for everyone else.

Because of this, people like you who are experimenting with new ways of monetization will need to go above and beyond what probably should be necessary to educate users about these new ideas.

I think if similar information to what you shared above was displayed clearly and obviously on steem.supply (similar to how some sites have big clear notifications about cookies that stay until dismissed) then instead of this negative, knee-jerk reaction you might have a rather positive response.

Thanks for this clarification. You still have my vote. Steem.supply is a very useful tool. Will wait for the update.

I can see both sides to this!

On one hand I would never have thought it would be a good idea to do this without making it very clear on the site itself, on the other hand though, I acknowledge that we come from different cultural backgrounds, and that perhaps this action is not really the product of an unethical moral position.