RE: Censorship... do barriers constitute Censorship? by dwinblood

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· @dwinblood · (edited)
This is correct.   Which does not stop you from going to make your own website.   I am speaking specifically about Steemit.com which is the flagship front end that is being pushed as censorship free.    If you put hoops and barriers (*no matter how subjectively easy you believe those are*) on someone to bypass those barriers then many will view it as censorship.   Will it be in reality? No, if they are not "lazy" (*again subjective*) they can go find it on the blockchain.    Yet perception is all that matters when it comes to PR and Marketing. 

Another thing about "lazy".   I might consider you LAZY because you don't leave people alone and just go write your own version of the website so you don't have to look at what you don't want to see.

I actually don't feel that way...   I only provide it as an example.    How challenging a "hoop" is to jump through is Subjective.    What a person must do in order to not be considered "lazy" is subjective.

Forcing your personal preferences upon OTHERS is wrong, if you are intending to make a free, uncensored, OPEN, community.
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@sneak ·
> Steemit.com which is the flagship front end that is being pushed as censorship free

Anything posted via steemit.com will be published into the Steem Blockchain, which is free of censorship. Those posts and comments will live forever on many websites.

The display of posts on steemit.com has *never* been censorship free, and never will be.  It exists in a legal jurisdiction that mandates censorship xor jail for several different types of content.  We mitigate this by writing all *posts* to the Steem Blockchain.

What we display (or do not display) on steemit.com isn't even remotely approaching censorship of any kind.
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@dwinblood · (edited)
I think you need to carefully reread my posts and what I said to you.

I'll try to make it CLEARER and short.

Is it technically censored?  NO  (*I've said this repeatedly... even in the original post*)

Is it perceived as censorship subjectively?  YES

Does telling someone to stop whining because they can go look at it on the block chain or some other website realistically address this?  NO

That is eliteism and assuming because you can do a thing all other users should and will be able to as well.

Thus, with that in mind moderating other peoples posts so they have to jump through hoops or go to other sites to reveal the hidden information WILL WITH ZERO DOUBT result in cries of censorship and negative PR.  

Furthermore, it is a huge assumption and generalization that negative PR is good.   Sometimes negative PR can be good if what the person is claiming is not perceived as true by the masses.   They go look, think the person is full of shit, and it is good PR.

If you think the masses are going to be convinced they should be willing to accept another hiding their posts and tell them they can find it on another site then I believe your opinion on the capabilities and attitudes of the masses is much higher than mine.

My solution... which is as simple as I can get it.   Put an icon that shows up only when there are hidden aspects of a post.   If people want to see what is hidden they click it, it shows everything without moderation.

Doesn't sound like a bad thing to me.   Yet I am not a fan of other people being able to FORCE their interests and will upon others.   I also don't view steemit.com as my personal website.


EDIT: You should also go read @dantheman's reply to this post which he made the day I posted it.   If there are changes and there are PLANS for steemit he is likely to be the guy that makes it happen.
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