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I think upvotes are called upvotes for a reason and flags are called flags for a reason. They are not the same by design. Upvotes allocate reward and flags are to be used with caution to take rewards away from posts that are abuse. Anytime a flag is used to counter something that is not abuse, I view the act of flagging as abuse itself.
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Hi Dave, >*"They are not the same by design."* I fear that in this instance you are wrong. The [**Steemit White Paper**](https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf) itself tells a different story. They *are* the same, by design. At least they are said to be. In fact, the word "Flag" is found nowhere within the WhitePaper. Search as you will you'll only find "votes," either up or down. However, I have heard it said that down votes affect reputation more strongly than up votes. I am having a great deal of difficulty finding accurate documentation about that, but I'll keep trying from time to time. The word "flag" has a very negative connotation, and perhaps for that reason alone the user interface should be modified to show up and down votes instead.
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Thanks for the correction then, it will help me have my facts straight in the future. I would certainly advocate for this to be the way we view them though. I wonder if changing the downvote to a flag was indeed a conscious decision and I wonder what's in the code base, not just on the most popular interface.
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While I haven't examined the code myself, I have read from several who have that the code treats up and down votes symmetrically and does not mention "flags." However, my confusion remains as far as the exact way reputation works in the latest fork of the system. I would love to know if that is truly symmetrical or not. Much of the discussion I've seen strongly implies that down-votes have a stronger impact on reputation than up-votes.
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