RE: Censorship... do barriers constitute Censorship? by sigmajin

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· @sigmajin ·
Personally, i think the idea of someone being able to moderate their posts is a pretty bad idea.   Artificial consensus is twice the sin of disagreement.
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@dwinblood ·
I don't care if they can moderate it if I have something telling me that stuff is being hidden and makes it easy for my to UNHIDE it.    I am not a fan of other people telling me what I can and cannot see, or what I should or should not like.   This means overall I don't like moderation either.    Yet, if I have a way to quickly see what they chose to conceal from me, I won't care.
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@sigmajin · (edited)
Posts that ive seen with hidden comments have them listed at the very bottom, making them pretty easy to miss for most people on long posts.  

I guess what i have to wonder is why should we allow someone to control the replies _that other people see_ to their posts.

Like my post about the  flags, and the reasons i thought you were  wrong -- wouldnt it have been kind of shitty if i could have just completely hidden your rebuttals (not that id do something like that, but as an example).  And yeah, people could click on the greyed out thingy to see what you said.  But some people. maybe even most people wont.  The whole purpose of the greying out/putting it at the bottom, is to make it less visible.

Just as an example, a couple weeks ago, i noticed a top-of-trending post that was completely plagarized.  I wrote a comment, a couple whales noticed and the post ended up losing most of its reward.

Would it have if the poster had the power to hide critical comments?

But even beyond downvoting, the ability to hide dissenting comments takes away the incentive to rebut them.  It detracts from engagement and debate.
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@dwinblood ·
Yeah I am not proposing that.   I'd like to see something that doesn't show any of that.   Like I said maybe an ICON at the top of the post that ONLY appears if the post has been moderated of things hidden.    You could click on that to unhide everything in that post and it'd display just like a normal post.   You could even interact and have conversations on completely hidden parts of the post.    You could use that and get rid of that SHOW/HIDE and ghosted posts stuff...
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