RE: Next Livestream this Thursday, Dec. 6th at 11am CST by whatsup

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steemit · @whatsup · Dec 4 '18

$0.91

Maybe large stakeholder can create a fund and have them developed?  Are we going to continue to act like SteemIt Inc is the only potential development company>

👍 donkeypong, fknmayhem, itstime, aaronhawk, itsliam, dernan

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@donkeypong · Dec 4 '18

$0.73

Very few accountholders are willing to lead. Not many truly have big enough stakes to engage in meaningful development of the kind we have seen with other cryptocurrency coins that have big stakeholder whales. Ideally, witnesses should be funding this as well, but it's hard to expect that with today's low prices. 

Inc owns most of the Steem and positioned itself as the dominant institution. One would think they could develop simple tokens, since they've been working on SMTs for months already. If they do, then many Steem projects would have a way to generate the economic scale they need to expand. Otherwise, there simply isn't enough Steem available for most projects to make things happen.

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@berniesanders · Dec 4 '18

$0.42

The witnesses have had plenty of time to put their funds to good use and the vast majority have done nothing.  Now look where we are.

👍 abusereports, lpfaust, nikokafka, bitrocker2020, whatsup, enforcer48, outlaw, sudutpandang
👎 jasonshick

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@sudutpandang · Dec 4 '18

*Hi @berniesanders , I was surprised by this statement, but I would like to know more about this. Do you have real data proof of the performance of witnesses who did nothing about it ???*

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@tcpolymath · Dec 4 '18

$0.02

* They've done a lot of the work designing their SMT system already and probably aren't willing to pass it off, so anyone else would have to start from scratch.
* They're the only people with a reasonable idea of how the existing Steem code works as a whole.

If the community wants to tackle #2, since it seems Steemit Inc. isn't very interested in getting the documentation in shape, then maybe when that's done we can think about adding things. But starting from scratch to solve that problem is still going to be months of work if we can find anyone interested in doing it.

👍 whatsup, personz

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@whatsup · Dec 4 '18

$0.07

yeah good points.  Shrugs, who knows.  At this point, I am not counting on SMTs at all.

👍 sircork, freebornangel, remlaps, enforcer48

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@remlaps · Dec 4 '18

$0.07

If they announce that they won't be doing it, some entrepreneur will probably pick it up (eventually).  We already had a sort-of a proof of concept with @biophil's "pocket" tokens, back before anyone was talking about SMTs..

But I think no one is going to take the risk of competing with them for as long as they have one hand in and one hand out.

👍 remlaps1, whatsup, remlaps

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2 replies

@richatvns · Dec 4 '18

$0.14

your absolutely right....I have a very simple financial solution.....
2 parts:

(1) - just add 1 line sponsorship to each page view (with a link) no ads though, they can advertise on their own site. would solve the monitary shortfall in no time.

They will need location & category control info but that can be very easy. So local small mom & pops can sponsor. Like your local tavern for the Rugby Blog. Or your local hair salon for a Glamor blog. Or local junk yard for a scrappers blog

Part (2) SteemIt needs to be a separate entity then Steem.

A Kickstarter/GofundMe account needs to be started to raise funds for starting a new open source company to:
1) mange the code base
2) pay for cloud servers to start
3) pay a small stipend + tokens for a couple of leaders (not Bosses)
to create an advisory committees to determine development and migration needed in the short, medium and long term, And set a public schedule with goals, and possible solutions.
4) pay a small stipend + tokens for a few witnesses to upgrade and run Masternodes
5) pay a small stipend + tokens laisons to a crowdsourced group of programmers to achieve the ends
6) pay a small stipend + tokens laisons to incentivize the community to adopt the new company as their own baby, not just a site that gives lip service to it. There are many creative people to help out with technical writing, artists to work on revamping and expanding the interfaces, technical people to lend their services, people to host events in concert with entities, and everyone to work their social media magic.

That's how you turn this stuff around!

👍 richatvns

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@berniesanders · Dec 4 '18

$0.14

Amen.

👍 abusereports
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@freebornangel · Dec 4 '18

$0.03

Lets fork and make development funds part of the inflation.
Then we can eliminate the ninjamine and other issues at once.
And, stinc can go on their merry way without impacting the community fork.

👍 whatsup, personz, enforcer48, largeadultson

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