RE: What Does Justice Look Like? by fionasfavourites

View this thread on steempeak.com

Viewing a response to: @steveblucher/re-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-what-does-justice-look-like-20181029t091406063z

· @fionasfavourites ·
Ah, @steveblucher, I misread - I realised that you were not the architect,  and misunderstood your reference to Matt, so yes, most definitely not personal.

What a horrible experience for your family and particularly your son.  That behaviour is most definitely not ok, and nor was his mother's response.  In your shoes, I'd also be chucking a curry in his face.  Actually, it strikes me that if you really wanted to do something, that was assault.  A criminal offence, no?  And don't tell me you that a) children are not capable of criminal behaviour or that b) you can't charge children with criminal offences... Having been involved with the street children movement in the 80's - about which I've written a couple of time and most recently in my last post but two - I know that.  And had to deal with both wrongful charges and chldren doing criminal things....

Yes, trying to teach the "do-as-you-would-be-done-by" lesson rather than perpetuating the "do-as-was-done-to-you" reality is the really hard thing, isn't it?

I think that you are so right about justice being rewarded as you say. However, justice is also served on those who can afford it.  As I have learned, the law is not fair.   The law is the law. That means justice is not fair either, complicated by the motives that drive it and it can be government and sometimes, public sentiment.  Actually, there is an interesting case underway in SA at the moment - currently postponed - and where the defence attorney has asked the judge to recuse himself because of perceived bias. It's a very sensitive case involving human trafficking and rape.  Swirling public opinions and sentiment.  The spat between the judge and the attorney is what's caused the postponement.  It's going to be interesting so see how that pans out.  

If you're interested, Google the Omotoso trial.  I don't necessarily advise it though.  Very harrowing.

On that note, g'day!
properties (22)
post_id65,189,170
authorfionasfavourites
permlinkre-steveblucher-re-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-what-does-justice-look-like-20181030t153829065z
categorysteemitbloggers
json_metadata{"users":["steveblucher"],"app":"steemit\/0.1","tags":["steemitbloggers"]}
created2018-10-30 15:38:33
last_update2018-10-30 15:38:33
depth3
children3
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-11-06 15:38:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length1,916
author_reputation38,904,514,499,428
root_title"What Does Justice Look Like?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
@steveblucher · (edited)
I'll have a look at the trial you mentioned - while it might be harrowing, it is still something of an insight into human nature. Interesting that a spat between the judge and an attorney is what caused a postponement. It must've been somewhat of a disagreement. You don't really hear of this sort of thing all that often.

There is a huge disconnect between the behaviours that we want to see our children display, and what the law thinks is appropriate, and unfortunately, not too many people these days want to be held accountable for their actions. With a legal system that on one hand says someone must be responsible, but then with the other hand deals out piss-weak retribution, how are we supposed to react? It's no wonder society is quick to blame someone else. We are headed for dangerous waters, if we haven't already found them. 

Accountability, whilst preached from any legal system in the world is quickly becoming a pipe dream. I'm not sure how it is in SA, but here, give someone a honk for cutting you off at a Stop sign, and they have the gall to give you the finger!?! In what world do I get in trouble for someone else not following the road rules!?
properties (22)
post_id65,449,058
authorsteveblucher
permlinkre-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-re-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-what-does-justice-look-like-20181104t035252721z
categorysteemitbloggers
json_metadata{"app":"steemit\/0.1","tags":["steemitbloggers"]}
created2018-11-04 03:52:54
last_update2018-11-08 10:34:39
depth4
children2
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-11-11 03:52:54
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length1,170
author_reputation2,698,429,717,921
root_title"What Does Justice Look Like?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
@fionasfavourites ·
South Africa, I am sad to say, has become very litigious.  This is not the first time this has happened.  That said, I am going to be very interested to see how this unfolds.  The matter is going to the Constitutional Court - the country's apex court.  

And on your last two points:  I cannot disagree.  Both seem to be world wide phenomena.

Have a good week.

PS.  Sorry about the cricket.  Not. ;)
properties (22)
post_id65,462,558
authorfionasfavourites
permlinkre-steveblucher-re-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-re-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-what-does-justice-look-like-20181104t105247659z
categorysteemitbloggers
json_metadata{"tags":["steemitbloggers"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"}
created2018-11-04 10:52:51
last_update2018-11-04 10:52:51
depth5
children0
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-11-11 10:52:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length401
author_reputation38,904,514,499,428
root_title"What Does Justice Look Like?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
@steveblucher ·
LOL! Cricket... I should care more, but it's cricket!! 

You should read some of the articles that are coming out at the moment about the Aussie cricketers - you'd think they murdered someone. (the ball tamperers are getting curry, but can't deal with it!!)
properties (22)
post_id65,690,655
authorsteveblucher
permlinkre-steveblucher-re-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-re-fionasfavourites-re-steveblucher-what-does-justice-look-like-20181108t103725822z
categorysteemitbloggers
json_metadata{"app":"steemit\/0.1","tags":["steemitbloggers"]}
created2018-11-08 10:37:27
last_update2018-11-08 10:37:27
depth5
children0
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-11-15 10:37:27
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length257
author_reputation2,698,429,717,921
root_title"What Does Justice Look Like?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000