Future of 3Speak's Upvoting Habits! by threespeak

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@ospro · Nov 27 '19

$0.03

I have noticed many times a lot of good quality video but the view is very low and very poor quality video but very much because they have more followers.And because they have more followers, they have more comments on their posts.In that case, how will your activities be?

👍 drutter, surpassinggoogle

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If somebody is getting views and comments then their content has an audience irrespective of the quality which is quite subjective. There are content creators who create amazing videos just from their smartphones and a lot successful. In the long run, followers will continue to view the videos if they are interesting. We want to change our voting habits to support creators who can attract more views and watch time on their channels.

👍 surpassinggoogle
👎 cinefilm

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@ospro · Nov 27 '19

Okay,, But I think it would be a little difficult to get a view for the new comers.Then How can they get support in that case?

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@drutter · Nov 27 '19

Quality is subjective, yes, but that's exactly why curators (supposedly) have a brain - to make that subjective decision! Only upvoting already-popular content is exactly the behaviour HF21 (and Steem in general) is trying to avoid. Bots can do that. Bots WERE doing that. It's why #NewSteem happened, to fix this problem you're purposely exacerbating.

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@chieppa1 · Nov 27 '19

How long after posting would the upvote take place? New engagement from outside of Threespeak might take more than the 1st posting day. 

I link my videos to a WordPress, which goes to Twitter. So eyes take time. That's my plan anyway.

Other than that I don't have an issue with it.

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@starkerz · Nov 27 '19

the vote will happen within a day or two from posting.  we did discuss 6 hours, it will vary, based on what we see as this new method rolls out.  however i would lik to add that content should be self sustaining as we grow.  there will be the option for content creators to monetise their content with ad revenue, as well as donations and earning from allowing users to bid their videos to top of the three speak trending list or boost their comments.  with all of these ways to monetise your content, we anticipate that the threespeak vote will not be the main source of monetisation / reward for creators.

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@chieppa1 · Nov 27 '19

I expect that to be the future of the threespeak vote also.

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@project.hope · Nov 27 '19

$0.65

Hi @threespeak

The best way to enhance good content is by supporting. There is no discussion about that, but you are right to say that you cannot support everyone without lowering your voting power, 
one way is for you to set a maximum of daily votes but manually so that your entire voting power is not compromised.
By recommending two votes every four hours it sounds difficult but you can do it in the following way create an alternate account where you can give resteem only to those you selected,
then to be voted on the same day.
That way you'll know who you vote for on a daily basis when you give the resteem that account is doing.

 And your primary account is dedicated to your publications. 

Well, that was an idea we applied to the project.

Greetings
Lanzjoseg

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Thank you so much for the wonderful suggestion and feedback Lanzjoseg (@project.hope). We will certainly look into this strategy.

👎 cinefilm

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@lanzjoseg · Nov 27 '19

@threespeak

I'm glad that you like the idea I apply it since two years ago when I started with a project called @topfivefamily I do not have great voting power but I do a dynamic of three votes is called the TooTres daily for three selected, and then I use my voting power for other users.

That's my alternate account you can see how clearly this works in Spanish. 
@topfavifamily

Now if you visit the @project.hope blog we also apply that form of vote control


Greetings

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@project.hope · Jan 5 '20

Dear @threespeak

Would you mind if I take few minutes of your time?

Together with few core members of project.hope team - we'te trying to promote our [recent publication](https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/3-ways-of-joining-our-efforts-project-hope-economy-explained): an article explaining economy behind our non-profit community project build on STEEM blockchain.

Perhaps I could ask you to spare few minutes and [check it out](https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/3-ways-of-joining-our-efforts-project-hope-economy-explained) and share your feedback with me.

I would absolutely appreciate it a lot. I read all comments and I drop solid upvote on each valuable one.

Link: https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/3-ways-of-joining-our-efforts-project-hope-economy-explained

ps.2.
HAPPY NEW YEAR :) Hopefully 2020 won't be as scary as many expert are predicting.

Cheers,
@crypto.piotr

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@cdljn2011 · Nov 28 '19

good !

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@felix.herrmann · Nov 27 '19

**the no. of comments** - very important!

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@bearbear613 · Nov 27 '19

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@lordbutterfly · Nov 27 '19

One question.... What again is the prerequisite for people to post on 3speak? I know youre all for freedom of speech but theres this girl that does what is basically a dress up commercial on 3speak which you voted up to the top of the trending page. 

Nothing against her or the fact shes up there, im just curious as to if all content is now allowed on 3speak. Not just controversial stuff that might get demonetized elsewhere.

👍 nathen007, surpassinggoogle

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@starkerz · Nov 27 '19

All content has always been allowed

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@lordbutterfly · Nov 27 '19

Hmm. I did read the questionnaire you had and it seemed that you rejected those that didnt have demonetizable content. 

Alright , thx for the info.

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@nathen007 · Nov 27 '19

Not to mention people playing game videos. I also thought it was about free speech.

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@theycallmedan · Nov 27 '19

Free speech means all speech, gamers  included.

👍 surpassinggoogle

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surpassinggoogle	0 B		9,038,356,927	13%

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@certain · Nov 27 '19

Hello dear @threespeak
As far as I understand, all users try to give their best.  Shortcomings occur in everyone.  Therefore, it becomes difficult to determine what should be the standard for quality content.
  Getting comments is easy for a popular user.  At the same time, it is very difficult for a new user to get a comment.  Because most people visit them on posts with which they are familiar or you can say that people do not like to watch videos of new users.  Do not even watch videos to comment.  Most comments are made by looking at the text and title.  Therefore, it should also be noted that the comments that are made should be made by watching the video so that all users, big and small, get the same opportunity.  If some new users are doing something good, then that too can be seen by the people. If we do like this definitely we are encouraging new users to do good.
I think this is really good initial...

Regards!

👍 surpassinggoogle, penghuren, drutter

voter	rshares	pct
surpassinggoogle	8,783,759,559	13%
drutter	1,522,745,138	1%
penghuren	1,741,043,704	100%

We will not stop supporting talented and creative folks on their initial days. Seperate VP is allocated which will continue to reward creators doing amazing job with the videos across multiple categories. Please understand that this is just an experiment to bring a little change in our strategy that could possibly attract outside viewership on 3Speak. In future, we will also provide an option to monetize videos through advertisements. Idea is to provide multiple ways for monetization, so that the threespeak vote will not be the only/main source of income.

👍 surpassinggoogle
👎 cinefilm

@louisthomas · Nov 27 '19

Sounds fair. I know the YouTube algorithm places a lot of value on engagement, so it makes sense for 3Speak to value engagement in the forms of upvotes as well

👍 surpassinggoogle, traviseric

@steemitboard · Nov 27 '19

Congratulations @threespeak! You have completed the following achievement on the Steem blockchain and have been rewarded with new badge(s) :

<table><tr><td><img src="https://steemitimages.com/60x70/http://steemitboard.com/@threespeak/voted.png?201911271537"></td><td>You received more than 5000 upvotes. Your next target is to reach 6000 upvotes.</td></tr>
<tr><td><img src="https://steemitimages.com/60x70/http://steemitboard.com/@threespeak/comments.png?201911271537"></td><td>You made more than 100 comments. Your next target is to reach 200 comments.</td></tr>
</table>

<sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@threespeak) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=threespeak)_</sub>
<sub>_If you no longer want to receive notifications, reply to this comment with the word_ `STOP`</sub>


To support your work, I also upvoted your post!


###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes!

@ocupation · Nov 27 '19

It would be cool if you guys check the quality of comments as well, since those beggar comments make zero sense and brings no value what so ever

@drutter · Nov 27 '19

It's going to be based mostly on the upvotes. Big posts get bigger, undiscovered posts stay undiscovered. It won't really be about the comments.

👍 surpassinggoogle

@ocupation · Nov 27 '19

Not a good sign since it can be easily manipulated, for instance follow trevon trail and here you go, more than 200 guaranteed upvotes

👍 surpassinggoogle

@theycallmedan · Nov 27 '19

$0.02

We have plenty of creators that get a lot of views but low vote. The upvotes have nothing to do with the SP votes already on the account. We take into account views, comments (manually checking comments to find abuse) and a few other things we will check when giving these upvotes. This gives any creator the chance to share their work, encourage users to comment and earn a vote that way. This gives creators the best chance at a potential upvote. If you’re making consent and constantly getting no views, we have a burn to promote system about to be put into place. So creators have every chance to get their work seen by others. And, as Matt said, we are leaving some SP filled for up and coming authors or ones we see putting in a ton of effort. Keep in mind this is just the threespeak account, my Dan account is free to shark around and find content as well. This change will be huge for creators.

👍 waybeyondpadthai, surpassinggoogle

@dalz · Nov 27 '19

Maybe take into considiration the reputation of the commentators as well :)

Make something to prevent abuse.

👍 surpassinggoogle, icotelegraph

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@drutter · Nov 27 '19

$0.06

Selectively voting only on your popular (well-paid) content creators will ensure you maximize the return on your curation reward under HF21 rules.

👍 wehmoen, girlsofgreen, surpassinggoogle, medikatie, vantocan, greatesteem, hempy, smokiethebear912

@danitorreb · Nov 28 '19

Thanks for information

@fw206 · Nov 27 '19

Creators should also be incentivized to promote 3Speak (by telling their fans about 3Speak and upload here first). Even if they are censored on YT, they often have channels left to speak to their fans but often still have a YT channel with only some videos censored (and nearly all demonetized). 

I saw some creators on dtube who used it as a backup but never talked about it or posted a link under their videos.

For example Dave Cullen (https://www.bitchute.com/profile/ldxZ8WGbPGJJ/) did that with Bichute and got a lot of fans over there. Sometimes he just makes exclusive videos for them and announce them on YT. The comment section is always filled.

👍 certain, surpassinggoogle

That's true. This is our initiative to take community's help in onboarding such creators who can further talk about 3Speak and bring outside viewership.

👎 cinefilm

@darmianto5 · Nov 27 '19

Wow, veri good voting friends

@fredkese · Nov 27 '19

$0.02

Won’t it be that popular people with a fan base  will get more upvotes even if the video isn’t worth it?

👍 dustsweeper, surpassinggoogle

@theycallmedan · Nov 27 '19

People who bring in views bring in ad dollars that help sustain threespeak as a business model. At the end of the day we are here to drive the price of Steem upwards. That is not to say unknown creators don’t have a chance to earn Steem on threespeak, it’s just since we have been open we have a lot of creators bringing in a lot of views and we want to make sure they get compensated. The same can be asked, what if a user brings in a ton of views and comments and get rewarded less then someone who only brought in a few views and no comments? We want to make it’s fair as possible, while still keeping a free market approach.

@fredkese · Nov 27 '19

Sounds good. Not a bad idea

@icotelegraph · Nov 27 '19

Overall, it seems reasonable, but It also leads to the following questions:
1. What is your plan to deal with fake views and spam comments?

2. How are you going to deal with scripts that increase views (steemit had a similar problem)?

3. Will the algorithm take into account traffic sources?

4. Will the reputation component and the age of the accounts that make a comments be taken into account?

👍 surpassinggoogle

@wehmoen · Jun 3 '20 (edited)

👍 sgt-dan
👎 coininstant

@steevc · Nov 27 '19

It might make a better impression to decline rewards on your own posts if self-voting. That leaves more rewards for others.

Just saying ;)

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@justineh · Nov 27 '19 (edited)

$1.50

Nice update. Curious to see how this works out since it can be easily gamed, but glad you are attempting to improve voting behavior. 

I did downvote this post due to self voting it to trending with Steemit Inc stake, not because I disagree with the post itself. Perhaps in the future sending rewards to null would be beneficial if the reason for doing so is for promotion aspects. Otherwise it seems like the type of voting behavior we are trying to avoid.

👍 jaki01, davidorcamuriel, wehmoen, kobold-djawa, arabisouri, topoisomerase, jasuly, steem-queen, endracsho, icuz, lintang, bukfast, srikandi

@bearbear613 · Nov 27 '19

$0.06

This is one of the greatest services on the STEEM blockchain. I just hope there is no way for the TPTB to silence you because that's the main objective.. first censor widely used social sites and then go for the ones that are left (Threespeak)

👍 neoxian, bearbear613, surpassinggoogle, double.bear.neox

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@endless.drugs · Nov 29 '21 (edited)

👍 surpassinggoogle

@wehmoen · Jun 3 '20 (edited)

@jrcornel · Nov 27 '19

I think it's worth a try. Getting influencers AND their followers has been the holy grail that we haven't been quite able to tap into yet... Hopefully this helps with that.

👍 surpassinggoogle

@samic · Nov 27 '19

$0.06

The world is in a hurry and blockchain much more.
People have never before created and consumed so much content and in this accelerated way. Being present in steemit and building community consuming time: Hours creating content almost daily if you are interested in collecting rewards for blogging, consume daily content from your friends and news steemit, vote and socialize. If you manage projects then reduce sleeping hours because this involves another series of activities. I think people get tired after a while and that is one of the reasons why posts are deserted by comments even other posts are voted on automatically without being seen.

I think that this model should evolve to a more functional system, while this happens, apps can go one step further.

The creators of video content by vocation could take their time to make quality and attractive content, so consumers can really enjoy watching something fun, listen to an interesting opinion, listen to a great song, poetry, watch a fabulous recipe, and a long etc. and both author and consumer are well rewarded for doing this.

In the case of videos, if someone watches the entire video, this should generate a reward for both: author and consumer. Each time the video is viewed within an period of time that should not to be 7 days, maybe a month or more both parties will accumulate points. These points could then be redeemed through a booster in a comment, or in a post.

Under this system, comments from both parties could also be rewarded with redeemable points.

Then we would have less volume of videos but better quality and lots of real views and comments. Authors and consumers happy.

SP will be consumed without a doubt with this point system.

____
just my thoughts, because I am not a developer or anything like that.

👍 sbi8, surpassinggoogle

@navneetkumar · Nov 28 '19

can you also give suggestions about how to get more upvotes and respect on steemit  like you

👍 navneetkumar

@fenngen · Nov 28 '19

If we are to have freedom of speech... shouldn't the service be free? As in free beer? What of those who can't pay? Not trying to look down on the platform, I think it's a great service but there should be some options for those who can't afford the entry fee if we are going to talk of freedom of speech. Otherwise it becomes the same as always, the rich decide the content and the poor consume it.

@socialrefresh · Nov 28 '19

$0.11

The problem with that is just that video is so expensive. DTube solves the cost issue by not keeping your videos on for a long time. So on DTube if you want to *keep* your videos online you have to host them yourself with an IPFS node. 

3Speak hosts your videos, but it costs them money every day you are putting videos on. Equality is important, but you can't ask others to pay your bills for you. If a content producer doesn't bring in more money than they cost 3Speak is not able to survive as a business.

👍 hobo.media

@fenngen · Nov 28 '19

Yeah I'm fine with the fee, just that it shouldn't be required to enter the platform. You should be able to use for a month and then start paying, hopefully with your earnings from the month. But to start paying before you've even used it or know what you can actually do with it... I don't think anyone with little resources could take that risk. It's more about social inclusion than asking for free service.

👍 surpassinggoogle

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@mattsanthonyit · Nov 28 '19

Please, as for me I am a fan of 3speak but I messed up by duplicated unknowingly to me at the end I was banned. Please what do I do to uplift the ban and continue with the free speech therapy and nature. Thanks 😊

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👍 surpassinggoogle

@gloriouskids · Nov 28 '19

Thanks for supporting my children, thanks for giving them a voice in a vast planet earth 🌍 

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👍 surpassinggoogle

@mgthitsar · Nov 28 '19

popular post!

@markkujantunen · Nov 28 '19 (edited)

These changes make perfect sense. Steem's greatest strength as well as its greatest weakness is that is has an extraordinary short Time-to-Value for content creators. The rewards come from the common pool and the value of the pool comes from investors who invest in the entire ecosystem when they buy into the token. Why is this a great strength? Because it makes Steem very, very lucrative for content creators because they can get rewarded quite easily and quickly particularly if they're early adopters. Why is this a weakness? Because it is very easy for stakeholders to become lazy and upvote without considering the value of what is being upvoted very carefully.

Even at the current low price, Steem pays better and more quickly to most content creators after they start using the platform than any other platform. A Steem user who puts out quality content can get paid rather well long before his/her content can draw attention and generate value that way and capture it by generating advertising revenue. This is why it is absolutely necessary for stakeholders to be more discerning and concentrate rewards on behaviors that bring traffic to the platform allowing that traffic to be monetized non-speculatively.

The creators of Steem must have imagined that the opportunity to earn massive rewards quickly would have content creators climbing on top of each other to sign up and create great content to compete for the rewards. Indeed, the rewards were incredible in the summer of 2016 when the legendary ten thousand dollar make-up tutorial was posted. Such a platform should've gone viral and become the most popular content delivery platform of all times in short order. But that didn't happen. A second opportunity was given late 2017/early 2018 when the cryptocurrency bull market peaked. While a lot of content creators came on board, that number should've been orders of magnitude larger. I think what went wrong was that onboarding was way too difficult. Paradoxically, Steem was perhaps even too good to be true. Some people I tried to onboard in the summer of 2017 had real trouble with the concept of where all the money came from since there were no ads. They took it for a scam while in reality Steem was always just a new form of venture capitalism - and an exceptionally user/content creator friendly version at that.

Because the pool is over an order of magnitude less valuable now than it was during the last peak, stakeholders must be much more careful about how it is allocated. Requiring content creators to create engaging content capable of reaching the a large number of people is a must. Also, actually engaging the followers is important, too, because such engagement directly increases key metrics like time spent on site and more intangible ones like the impact on the users.

@chireerocks · Nov 28 '19 (edited)

[@threespeak](https://steemit.com/@threespeak), In my opinion every aspect is related to the **Change**. And sometimes we have to try different methods to bring more **Adoption** and **Value**.

We all know that one **Platform** cannot satisfy all the needs but it can **Contribute** to the bigger picture and when it's come to **Steem** bigger picture is **Mass Adoption**.

So, at first place **Threespeak** born to give voice to **De-platformed** Content Creators, so if **Threespeak** is putting focus towards that aspect full fledged way definitely **Threespeak** will be successful and will bring adoption.

**Just Curious to know if Threespeak Vote Power" to Top 30 Content Creators Initiative will get altered or removed after this change**?

My good wishes are with you team and hope that it will truly bring the needed value.

Have a wonderful time ahead and stay blessed.

@arcange · May 19 '20 (edited)

![](https://i.imgur.com/1IisxxB.png)

@eco-alex · Nov 29 '19 (edited)

Its an interesting approach.. BUT i think should be balanced with exceptions... People without a following will find it hard to get out of the loop, sort of stuck in a catch 22 if they arnt yet known... so id say posts that u think are excellent should At least sometimes get supported regardless of comments...

👍 re2pair

@paragism · Nov 30 '19

great

@jekhy · Dec 1 '19

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@healer2678 · Dec 3 '19

Always there is a value for quality content, I am sure this concept will be a best way of encouragement. Good job.

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👍 healer2678

@yahialababidi · Dec 20 '19 (edited)

@starkerz Freedom of Speech ends where hate begins. Sorry to say it, but to my mind @threespeak is beginning to look like a haven for those with hateful views, bordering on the criminal.

Whom you stand up for & protect reveals your own bias. Have you considered that you are supporting bigots and attracting the wrong kind of eyeballs to the platform —- in short, giving it a bad name & keeping serious journalists & fair-minded people away?

How about instead of giving a platform to those promoting fear and hatred of Islam—whom you are also rewarding, financially—you promote the opposite view as well: peaceful Muslims who contribute to their society & others?

@artgirl · Feb 18 '20 (edited)

Hmmm, I wonder if I should start using 3speak instead of the troublesome dtube... 🤔 Then again you're currently powering down so I'm not sure.