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Itβs not a simple disagreement. The post is overvalued, in part because it is wild speculation masquerading as sound medical advice. Iβm glad you can find a scientist on YouTube to agree with you. Personally, I have much more faith in the vast consensus of the medical community, the massive drop in flu deaths since the widespread use of seasonal flu vaccines and my own nursing school curriculum.
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You flagged several comments that were only worth a few cents. Were those overvalued too? I took the time to try to help you, since you are new and may not know how things work here. You flagged my comnent too. Your comment to the author comes off as rude, but most people on Steemit will not flag a rude comment. However, many WILL flag a rude comment if you have also flagged their comments or posts. If I were to have taken offense at you, my single downvote is powerful enough to bring your reputation down to zero or less. This is one reason that most people play nice on Steemit. If you have no interest in playing nice, than that is your choice and I am not telling you what you have to do -- just warning you of the likely consequences of your actions. It is totally your choice. So -- if you want to have a real dialogue, than let's dialogue. But I will not continue to dialogue with someone who continues to abuse flags. Ok ... back to the original conversation. I see that you are a nurse in training. The woman who wrote this post has been a nurse for many, many years, and is a friend of mine. She is VERY educated on this topic.
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Sheβs not putting that education to very good use if she considers peddling junk science and conspiracy theories a good idea. The fact that she was a nurse practitioner means people will treat the idea that you shouldnβt get vaccinated with an authority it doesnβt deserve. Personally, I donβt feel Iβve a abused flagging here. You are perfectly free to see it differently. Telling me in ominous tones that you can retaliate to my posts by flagging me and bringing down my reputation isnβt a good way to convince anyone not to flag material they find untrue, damaging to public health, and not worth one red cent.
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I do not threaten to flag people for stating opinions that I disagree with. YOU are the one who used the flag. When you do that first, other people will flag you back -- but I have not -- because I like to have discussion and not flag wars when possible. I simply warned you what a flag war would look like. But you do not appreciate my help, so I will end this discussion with you.
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Those threats are pretty bad form I have to say, saying you can make his rep zero. This guy is flagging because of disagreement but you are saying you will make it personal. @americaurusrex there isn't a consensus here on "playing nice" etc. etc.
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I never said that I would flag him, and I haven't. I was explaining a possible scenario if someone like me had actually taken offense. I don't offend that easily. I think that the only time that I flagged somebody that offended me was when noganoo wrote a post with my name in the title, and his #1 tag was "Satanists." ... so unless you write a post calling me out as a Satanist, you probably won't receive a flag from me ... lol ... I do not easily throw flags around. It is this poster who throws his flags around. I disagreed with his original comment too -- but I did not flag it -- because I don't think that flagging for disagreement is acceptable. If I had the same way of thinking as he does, I would have gone ahead and flagged it though.
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Commom many big accounts use the flag to remind people to play nice and many big accounts go around flagging post they disagree with.... thatβs the Steemit reality
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Dear @americaurusrex, As one who was in the nursing profession for MANY years I am going to give you some advice since I see you are just a nursing student. Your lack of empathy for my health condition is concerning to me, and it would be best for you to take a hard look at why you are choosing this career. <h1>The value of *empathy* for the nurse-patient relationship is thought to allow understanding not only of other individuals' beliefs, values and ideas but also the significance that their situation has for them and their associated feelings.</h1> You said, *"Personally, I have much more faith in the vast consensus of the medical community"* as you can see below the medical community is starting to rethink the safety and value of vaccines as evidenced the Physicians, Researchers and Immunologists below, and the list is far from complete. **Medical Doctors and PhD Scientists Speak Out Against Vaccinations** Below is a list of videos (and some articles) where medical doctors and PhD scientists come forward to discuss the unhealthy effects of vaccines. Each professional presents documented research, facts and statistics to prove, when taken in itsβ totality, that 1) vaccines arenβt safe 2) vaccines arenβt effective 3) vaccines havenβt been proven to increase immunity or resistance to disease and 4) that vaccines only decrease the health of the people theyβre injected into. Vaccines are also proven and documented in many cases to kill instantly and cripple for life. The situations of instant child death and permanent injury, due to vaccination, are well documented in the linked information. Some of the professionals below are straight to the point and some are a little more withdrawn about coming forward to present the exact opposite of what they were taught in medical school and by their society in general. The medical and science professionals listed have nothing to gain and literally everything to lose by speaking up within a system thatβs designed to punish anyone who moves against the accepted medical standards of care and generally accepted community standards, within our culture. The theme of each presentation is eerily similar, with the common ground always being that this information regarding vaccines being ineffective, unhealthy and dangerousβ¦..is already well documented within the journals of medical science but itβs ignored full stop because something else is going on. The weight of the evidence is not only found to be firmly planted against the use of vaccines, due to their unhealthy effects, but the government itself is the very entity spear heading a corrupt and illegal attack upon itsβ own citizensβ¦..by forcing science, medicine and government policy to keep driving fraudulent vaccine claims and toxic vaccines themselves, deeper into the public at large. This is for parents who want to know more, in order to do the best for their children. 1. Dr. Nancy Banks β http://bit.ly/1Ip0aIm 2. Dr. Russell Blaylock β http://bit.ly/1BXxQZL 3. Dr. Shiv Chopra β http://bit.ly/1gdgh1s 4. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny β http://bit.ly/1MPVbjx 5. Dr. Suzanne Humphries β http://bit.ly/17sKDbf 6. Dr. Larry Palevsky β http://bit.ly/1LLEjf6 7. Dr. Toni Bark β http://bit.ly/1CYM9RB 8. Dr. Andrew Wakefield β http://bit.ly/1MuyNzo 9. Dr. Meryl Nass β http://bit.ly/1DGzJsc 10. Dr. Raymond Obomsawin β http://bit.ly/1G9ZXYl 11. Dr. Ghislaine Lanctot β http://bit.ly/1MrVeUL 12. Dr. Robert Rowen β http://bit.ly/1SIELeF 13. Dr. David Ayoub β http://bit.ly/1SIELve 14. Dr. Boyd Haley PhD β http://bit.ly/1KsdVby 15. Dr. Rashid Buttar β http://bit.ly/1gWOkL6 16. Dr. Roby Mitchell β http://bit.ly/1gdgEZU 17. Dr. Ken Stoller β http://bit.ly/1MPVqLI 18. Dr. Mayer Eisenstein β http://bit.ly/1LLEqHH 19. Dr. Frank Engley, PhD β http://bit.ly/1OHbLDI 20. Dr. David Davis β http://bit.ly/1gdgJwo 21. Dr Tetyana Obukhanych β http://bit.ly/16Z7k6J 22. Dr. Harold E Buttram β http://bit.ly/1Kru6Df 23. Dr. Kelly Brogan β http://bit.ly/1D31pfQ 24. Dr. RC Tent β http://bit.ly/1MPVwmu 25. Dr. Rebecca Carley β http://bit.ly/K49F4d 26. Dr. Andrew Moulden β http://bit.ly/1fwzKJu 27. Dr. Jack Wolfson β http://bit.ly/1wtPHRA 28. Dr. Michael Elice β http://bit.ly/1KsdpKA 29. Dr. Terry Wahls β http://bit.ly/1gWOBhd 30. Dr. Stephanie Seneff β http://bit.ly/1OtWxAY 31. Dr. Paul Thomas β http://bit.ly/1DpeXPf 32. Many doctors talking at once β http://bit.ly/1MPVHOv 33. Dr. Richard Moskowitz β http://bit.ly/1OtWG7D 34. Dr. Jane Orient β http://bit.ly/1MXX7pb 35. Dr. Richard Deth β http://bit.ly/1GQDL10 36. Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic β http://bit.ly/1eqiPr5 37. Dr Chris Shaw β http://bit.ly/1IlGiBp 38. Dr. Susan McCreadie β http://bit.ly/1CqqN83 39. Dr. Mary Ann Block β http://bit.ly/1OHcyUX 40. Dr. David Brownstein β http://bit.ly/1EaHl9A 41. Dr. Jayne Donegan β http://bit.ly/1wOk4Zz 42. Dr. Troy Ross β http://bit.ly/1IlGlNH 43. Dr. Philip Incao β http://bit.ly/1ghE7sS 44. Dr. Joseph Mercola β http://bit.ly/18dE38I 45. Dr. Jeff Bradstreet β http://bit.ly/1MaX0cC 46. Dr. Robert Mendelson β http://bit.ly/1JpAEQr 47. Dr. Garth Nicolson β http://bit.ly/1OQVJsF 48. Dr. Marc Girard β http://bit.ly/1iw0smT 49. Dr. Charles Richet β http://bit.ly/1G5GG7j 50. Dr. Zac Bush β http://bit.ly/1LS19OZ 51. Dr. Lawrence Wilson β http://bit.ly/1kcdirf 52. Dr. James Howenstine β http://bit.ly/1iNyFOy 53. Dr Burton A. Waisbren, Sr., M.D. β http://bit.ly/1Nj8LRe 54. Dr. Sam Eggertsen β http://bit.ly/1Mww9XV 55. Dr. Bonnie Dunbar β http://bit.ly/1N5DXNi 56. Dr. Judy Mikovits β http://bit.ly/1QIzmHU 57. Dr. John Bergan β http://bit.ly/1KYv1yY 58. Dr. Rima E. Laibow β bit.ly/1RmW73C 59. Dr. Lee Hieb β http://bit.ly/1VElDUv 60. Dr. Daniel Kalb β http://bit.ly/22FPmxv 61. Dr. Rachel Ross β http://bit.ly/1r7Doik 62. Dr. Kathryn H Hale β http://bit.ly/2erDoW9 63. Dr. Gibson β http://bit.ly/2sLlNSt 64. Dr. Anthony Phan β http://bit.ly/2squqxN 65. Dr. Daniel Neides β http://bit.ly/2xdg2vz 66. Dr. Christiane Northrup β http://bit.ly/2vWOdqi 67. Dr. James Neuenschwander β http://bit.ly/2gCsl1w Many more doctors testifying that vaccines arenβt safe or effective, in these documentariesβ¦. 1. Vaccination β The Silent Epidemic β http://bit.ly/1vvQJ2W 2. The Greater Good β http://bit.ly/1icxh8j 3. Shots In The Dark β http://bit.ly/1ObtC8h 4. Vaccination The Hidden Truth β http://bit.ly/KEYDUh 5. Vaccine Nation β http://bit.ly/1iKNvpU 6. Vaccination β The Truth About Vaccines β http://bit.ly/1vlpwvU 7. Lethal Injection β http://bit.ly/1URN7BJ 8. Bought β http://bit.ly/1M7YSlr 9. Deadly Immunity β http://bit.ly/1KUg64Z 10. Autism β Made in the USA β http://bit.ly/1J8WQN5 11. Beyond Treason β http://bit.ly/1B7kmvt 12. Trace Amounts β http://bit.ly/1vAH3Hv 13. Why We Donβt Vaccinate β http://bit.ly/1KbXhuf 14. Autism Yesterday β http://bit.ly/1URU2A7 15. Denmark Documentary on HPV Vaccine β http://bit.ly/1AJI0dx 16. Vaxxed β bit.ly/1qackPC 17. Man Made Epidemic β http://bit.ly/1XsOi0R 18. 50 Cents A Dose β http://bit.ly/2c0h07P 19. Direct Orders β http://bit.ly/1ivShHg 20. Dtap β Vaccine Roulette http://bit.ly/2dBnc3u 21. Truthstream News: About All Those Vaccines β http://bit.ly/2gCMa4o 22. Hear The Silence β http://bit.ly/2g7NYpd 23. Cervical Cancer Vaccine β Is It Safe? β http://bit.ly/2h3Dvsh 24. Vaccines Revealed β https://www.vaccinesrevealed.com/free/ 25. The Truth About Vaccines β http://bit.ly/2mX4Tyc 26. Vaccine Syndrome β http://bit.ly/2phXCKt 27. Injecting Aluminum β http://bit.ly/2qPkFwo 28. Manufactured Crisis: HPV, Hype & Horror β http://bit.ly/2qT0X3j 29. Sacrificial Virgins β <h1>Also you should familiarize yourself with the numbers of people who have been injured by vaccines and have suffered injury or death. Just in case you do not want to educate yourself the reported number is 900,300 and that is only the reported cases. Perhaps you will be more sympathetic to someone who is suffering from a vaccine injury. </h1> <h1>https://steemit.com/vaccines/@marymg2014/reporting-a-vaccine-adverse-event-or-injury</h1> Source: https://www.jchristoff.com/medical-doctors-and-phd-scientists-speak-out-against-vaccinations-2/
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Iβm sorry youβre having health problems. It does not justify using your position as a healthcare provider to misinform the public in this way. I for one will not be telling any parents to expose their kids to preventable diseases because someone on the internet said vaccines give people autism. Vaccines are the reason my generation only reads about polio in the history books. I do not have to accept this poor excuse for science in order to show that I care about sick people. Rather than send you a long list of really shady website that shill my opinion, Iβll just direct you to the knowledge of infectious diseases, disease control, pathopjysiology and basic microbiology that you and I both received as student nurses.
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 Funny you should mention the polio virus. It happens to be the one that was contaminated with cancer cells and over 90 MILLION people were exposed and that is a significant reason for the huge numbers of cancer we now see today. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10472327 300 new vaccines - no liability for the pharmaceutical industry =$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Bill Gates believes vaccines are important for depopulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064 http://www.phrma.org/press-release/medicines-in-development-vaccines As for the book you refer to from nursing school, as a nurse we are supposed to continue our learning long after nursing school. I have done that and you have not even started as you have not even passed the boards yet. One more bit of advice to you before I end this discussion 
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Vaccine ingredients 2017 it will help you with informed consent for your patients. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf To help you further your understanding of the dangers of vaccines don't forget to look up each ingredient on the MSDS Data Sheet. www.translinknet.be/translation/msds/definition.html
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