RE: MONEY CANNOT REPLACE INTEGRITY: Why I Still Vote According To My Inner Compass Instead of Max ROI by overkillcoin

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· @overkillcoin · (edited)
$8.29
<sub>Edited comment:</sub>

Wow, that's *(concerning to me)*. *(I would like to see a higher)* regard for the creators who are working hard to bring Steemit to the next level! 

*(In order for a healthier platform with solid future success, I'd like to see some restraint with this type of voting)*
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@stellabelle ·
$0.27
glad you responded with disgust, because that was my initial gut reaction too. We are both artists at heart, and I often wonder if we operate differently than most people. I have a healthy appetite for self-preservation, competition and perfection, which does result in rewards, but this level of greed that was displayed, I do wonder: how many whales operate like this? Is it the majority? Do they think that it's going to make Steem more valuable moving forward?
I am at a loss, because I didn't know that the ROI was that extreme for the bot vote buying...
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@overkillcoin · (edited)
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Additionally, their article is a great way to discourage new investors in Steem, new users from joining and current authors. If I was an outsider and this post was the first thing I saw when I visited Steemit, I'd turn around and never look back. :-/ It's potentially an embarrassment that will fuel the fires of mockers and naysayers.

I understand monetary ambitions too, but what's the sense in grabbing all one can in the short term when Steem has so much potential. It's plain short-sighted. The healthier this platform is now, the better off **everyone** will be in the future, *especially* large holders of SP...
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@taskmaster4450 ·
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I agree.

With all I see going on, I firmly believe that $100 is a low price for STEEM.  The SMTs along with apps that basically cover the entire social media spectrum (DTube, Zappl, Steemit, Steepshot) are basically poised to rewrite all the rules as they apply to this arena.  One only needs to look at the values given to twitter, FB, Youtube, and instagram (that one sold for $1B) to realize it is a huge market.  

The steem blockchain can be one of the first to truly gain worldwide recognition, not because of publicity and hype, but, rather, due to the developments that are taking place on it.  These are apps people will use.
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@irreverent-dan ·
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After being on this planet for 34 years, I have come to realize that greed and short-sightedness are traits that the majority of humans seem to be "blessed" with...
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@stellabelle · (edited)
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@snowflake did create the solution at the end which I am trying to fully understand...I'm waiting for him to spell it out for me.
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@snowflake ·
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@stellabelle Before going around trying to make me look bad you should have realized that my post is a wake up call. I offered a solution which is meant to improve the current situation. 
Why do you think I'm calling out the system that I profit from?
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@stellabelle ·
Ok, I agree with you. Please tell me how i should edit my post.
I have added your solution to the post, at the bottom. 
Wasn't your post meant to get people upset? That's how many of us perceived it. That's how you wrote it... in order to wake up everyone.
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@stellabelle ·
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I have edited my post. If you find something offensive, let me know. I am very willing to adjust anything that is not accurate.
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@bix · (edited)
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I think it is a very real dilemma similar to what every whistleblower is facing and every parent is facing too. Unfortunately our authorities do not see it as a dilemma and people are hurt in the courts for telling the truth when they could easily just shut up and not being punished.
 
Specifically, the dilemma that i see:
**When someone tells us some truth that may hurt them, do we punish people (children) for telling the truth?**

If we do, children (in this example) will lose their trust in us and will never come out telling us truth again.

I think that it is still bad (not just making it "look bad") - wake up call or not. Some things are just below of some people's dignity, regardless of the money involved.

It is similar to how do we know someone's character. It is by how a person acts when "nobody's looking". That was exactly the case i think. Whether we are told about it or not, it is where the person's inner compass points to. 

Even if there are loopholes in the system and we all know what is an honorable thing to do. If you discovered a loophole it is up to you whether to use it or not. It is like if you found someone's wallet. Is it a crime to keep it? Well legally probably not. One person would take it. But another one would go out of their way to find the owner and give it back.

There are always two approaches in life!

Another illustration that i like. I think it originally comes from natives if i remember correctly. **There is a good wolf and a bad wolf living inside each of us and they always fight. Which one wins? ... THE ONE YOU FEED!**

So if you discovered the loophole, reported it (to whomever, the community, the Witnesses, the developers etc) but did not use it for your financial gain - it would put you on one side. And it would be indeed a wake up call. If you USED it first, benefited from it financially, and then bragged about it - i think that puts you on the opposite side.

ALSO from reading your post i have a feeling different than what you present now.
I did not get the feeling of a **wake up call** AT ALL! 
This is how I've read what was between the lines - it was a guidance to the fairly new and poor users mixed with a little bit of a blame and shaming them for not getting enough profit by not giving YOU enough PROFIT. 
**That was the SPIRIT of what I've read and how i understood it**

See the difference?

Even if you say you meant it differently i'm sharing with you how it was actually perceived.  Hope it helps.
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@taimoorahmad ·
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Yeah it's disgusting, but people join steemit to earn by their own means. But they are not getting what they or their blog worth so they use bots for that.
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@taskmaster4450 ·
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That is true @overkillcoin, it might.

However, I am optimistic enough to believe that this is the extreme minority.  I know there are a number of people on here with big VP who are helping all they can.  

There simply are some people who look at things from the viewpoint of getting all they can while others have the approach "what can I bring". 

In the end, I have faith in the later group.
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@overkillcoin ·
I hope you're right, @taskmaster4450, I tend to think you are... I suppose I'm passionate about this because I see good people falling away from Steemit fairly regularly. They've told me that it's too hard to keep going, and they've cited circular voting as one of the main reasons they feel shut out. 

I think very few of us are making a living from Steemit, and all our efforts aren't going to be rewarded for many months, possibly years. Whales obviously can and will do whatever they want with their VP, but it's chilling to see admission of undervalued posts and then a cold, "**** you, creators" attitude.
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@stellabelle ·
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agree.
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@taskmaster4450 ·
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I agree.  There are times I get de-motivated by the behavior I see on here but then remind myself why I am here and what I am committed to.  My goal is to be a poster that makes a difference...to bring areas of knowledge that people who read what I write do not have.

I want to make money like everyone else although I have no complaints about what I have gotten thus far (or at least I should have no complaints).

Thanks you for your kindred spirit of maintaining optimism and that we are bigger than the challenges that are in front of us.  If 10,000 people get together and focus on making this place the best if can be, it will create an incredible outcome.  

In the overall scheme of things, that isnt that big a number.
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@bashadow ·
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I am not sure I would use the word *" disgusting"*.  He was being *"Honest"* with the users of steemit on how and why he votes the way he does. I don't think there is such a thing as *"Disgusting Honesty"*. He obviously has a huge amount  of respect for the creators of content. I would bet along with the dollar amount of those post, that the number of views,*(prior)* to him pointing them out was very low also. So while he may have not upvoted the post due to his own financial considerations he did **Reward** them immensely by bring so much attention to them. *(I have not looked or checked to see if that did happen or not)*
At first read it is easy to see your point of view of what he said. However on a second read, and reading the clarification comments he made to a few commenters, you may become a little less disgusted, and a little bit more understanding. I view it at a cautionary tale; be careful of where you travel, lest you become like me and sell your soul.
I do appreciate your comment, it helped me to see a little more into  @snowflake 's post.
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@overkillcoin ·
I rephrased my original comment, not to bury it so much as to simmer things down a bit... Thanks @bashadow
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@bashadow ·
Fight or flight syndrome, it hits and we react. I am sure it was a hard thing for  @snowflake to write. And it has gotten even more people talking, and discussing one of the issues that many have here on steemit.
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