RE: ⚠️ Rip-Off Alert ⚠️ @jerrybanfield Is At It Again To Rip People Off by drakos

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· @drakos · (edited)
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I really don't care if he's AA or not, I wasn't even aware of it, and it's not even part of the issue. His personal life is his own, I'm not debating that. We all have our own sad stories, and it's not the key to redemption when someone messes up repeatedly. So throwing his AA story to get pity doesn't work on me. Marketers can manipulate people into selling their mother's soul if they wanted to.

Oh look, cute eyes, let's forgive him... NO!
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@lexiconical ·
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*"So throwing his AA story to get pity doesn't work on me."*

It's not about pity. You brought that up, not me. It's about a rational explanation for what has happened leading to a determination of what he can offer the community.

*"Marketers can manipulate people into selling their mother's soul if they wanted to."*

Yes, the idea is Jerry might be able to do that for Steem in a way that increases adoption.

Do you see how he has pros and cons?
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@nikez452 ·
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guess not...
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@theleapingkoala ·
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> It's about a rational explanation for what has happened leading to a determination of what he can offer the community.

The only rational explanation I can see from this who thing, is that he is not a person to depend on when it comes to quality or trust!

> Yes, the idea is Jerry might be able to do that for Steem in a way that increases adoption.

What type of adoption he is increasing? More people to vote him and give him more money?
More spammers?
Even if you don't like to admit that he is scamming people out of their money (and its probably the fault of those people that are stupid enough or rich enough to get scammed). It is obvious that he is not doing things for steemit.

We all want to make money, but to go that far to make money is kinda sickening, especially when there are many other people who write better materials and are more honest, but they don't get the attention they deserve because of practices like this.

I am kinda awed by this whole thing. Never knew it turned out this way!
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@lexiconical ·
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*"The only rational explanation I can see from this who thing, is that he is not a person to depend on when it comes to quality or trust!"*

By this logic, we should also run most businesses out of town. After all, Coke tried (and bombed) with New Coke, because they were being dumb.

Most entrepreneurs have some bad ideas.

*"What type of adoption he is increasing? More people to vote him and give him more money?"*

I don't really care who they are, if they are buying and using Steem. Steemit may turn into a cesspool like Facebook, but that would make us early adopters very well off.

*"Even if you don't like to admit that he is scamming people out of their money"*

Luckily, I don't need to, since by definition, he is not.

*"Fraud is generally defined in the law as an intentional misrepresentation of material existing fact made by one person to another with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act, and upon which the other person relies with resulting injury or damage. "*

Can you or anyone else prove intent to deceive? Who acted upon this "deception" and had resultant injury?

Charging more money for a service than other services is, by definition, not a scam.

*"It is obvious that he is not doing things for steemit."*

Well, neither are the vast majority of us. 99% of us are out the door tomorrow if rewards get turned off. You and I are no better.

*"that far "*

How far? Not knowing about and overpricing a service?

*"write better materials and are more honest"*

Subjective. Jerry is, in many ways, hugely honest. If you look at all his material, much of it is way more info than I'd ever be willing to give, even if it's not my cup of tea.

*"attention they deserve"*

Subjective.
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