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How could someone make a honest mistake like this especially a witness who is supposed to be an example to other users on how to act on site be be and knowledgeable in how the site functions? Jerry is a user long enough and is a witness long enough maybe an honest apology and not trying to weasel out of what he said instead of an flat-out lie. When you knowingly offer a disingenuous service or product this is the definition of a scam and i think they're are plenty enough already on steemit we dont need witnesses leading more.
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*"How could someone make a honest mistake"* Does former alcoholic cover why I think there's reasonable doubt? Or should we go further? *"especially a witness who is supposed to be an example"* Generally speaking, I agree, but he is trying to make it right. Perhaps Jerry's true value is not as a role model but simply as a marketer. *"definition of a scam"* Charging a higher price than you like is not a scam. Knowing of a cheaper service that exists does not make it a scam, either. Otherwise, Whole Foods is a scam. I'm arguing for not running him out of town, FYI, not that he didn't make a mistake (again).
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trying to draw parallels between something completely is a logical fallacy (False equivalence) It is not a general case it is a foundation entry point for the platform and implementing some high paid "feature" will only further claims against steemit as an MLM/Ponzi It is a scam if you work somewhere or have access to services or products and approach customers without the knowledge claiming your service is quick and easy and a great deal this is misleading information to make a profit i.e a scam I notice you getting votes from @jerrybanfield is this pay to put this kind of unbased spinning in defense?
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*"trying to draw parallels between something completely is a logical fallacy (False equivalence)"* Only if it's false...if you don't like the analogy, discard it. But Jerry was doing the same thing - charging more for a very similar product. But, since he was doing it the dumb 30SP way, it did cost something like $35 per account, plus the risk of chargebacks on Paypal. Not a great moneymaking scheme, is it? *"implementing some high paid "feature" will only further claims against steemit as an MLM/Ponzi"* Agreed, that's why I've called the idea dumb at every opportunity. I'm not willing to say it's malice yet, however, nor run him out of town. *" claiming your service is quick and easy and a great deal this is misleading information to make a profit i.e a scam"* Well, the service might have been quick and easy. We won't ever know. Whether that speed and service made it a good deal is subjective. It's not a scam, but again, I grant that it's dumb and suspect. *"I notice you getting votes from @jerrybanfield is this pay to put this kind of unbased spinning in defense?"* Oh yeah, he put me on auto-voter for like $1.25 a month ago purely in preparation of the next-time he would put his foot in his mouth. If you want a non-sarcastic answer, I've commented for miles on his posts for 4 months and probably voted him more than he's voted me back, so if I'm moonlighting as paid PR flunky than I'm not very good at it. I don't mind that you asked. Fair to call out the connection. PS - I'm not sure these two can coexist: "unbased spinning". However, yeah, I think I am being pretty unbiased. I have a history of defending whoever is getting dog-piled.
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