Abuse of secrecy is not the same thing as necessary secrecy ---- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Undergroundrailroadsmall2.jpg/1024px-Undergroundrailroadsmall2.jpg > If the white man attempts to oppose the Deity's will, by trying to make the negro anything else than "the submissive knee-bender" (which the Almighty declared he should be), by trying to raise him to a level with himself, or by putting himself on an equality with the negro; or if he abuses the power which God has given him over his fellow-man, by being cruel to him, or punishing him in anger, or by neglecting to protect him from the wanton abuses of his fellow-servants and all others, or by denying him the usual comforts and necessaries of life, the negro will run away; but if he keeps him in the position that we learn from the Scriptures he was intended to occupy, that is, the position of submission; and if his master or overseer be kind and gracious in his hearing towards him, without condescension, and at the same time ministers to his physical wants, and protects him from abuses, the negro is spell-bound, and cannot run away.[4] In a debate with another blogger (@fourth) I was given a question which I deemed to be a false narrative and ill defined. The question was: "Do you not accept the idea of balancing goals, for example, privacy and protection, with other goals?". I think the proposer of this question may have meant it in a different way than I interpreted it but in my response I brought up the notion that radical transparency actually can lead to human rights abuses if wisdom generation isn't in place. In a town filled with ignorance under a regime of radical transparency then it is certainly possible that human rights can be abused under the rule of law, using radical transparency as an instrument (weapon) of oppression. Radical transparency as a weapon of oppression ----- To provide an example scenario of when transparency was used as a weapon of oppression and when secrecy was the defender of human rights; I applied the example of the underground railroad. According to US history the underground railroad was a network of SECRET safe houses where slaves (fugitives) could hide from the government. Those who took the side of defending human rights in this situation were committing a crime themselves and were on the wrong side of the law. Transparency would mean that the locations of these safe houses (and the human property) must be revealed to everyone in town. We can see instantly looking back at the history books that to do that would be to subject these humans to human rights abuses (slavery) and that this while legal (even constitutional) is something which a large percentage of the nation even back then did not agree with. > If treated kindly, well fed and clothed, with fuel enough to keep a small fire burning all night--separated into families, each family having its own house--not permitted to run about at night to visit their neighbors, to receive visits or use intoxicating liquors, and not overworked or exposed too much to the weather, they are very easily governed--more so than any other people in the world. If any one or more of them, at any time, are inclined to raise their heads to a level with their master or overseer, humanity and their own good requires that they should be punished until they fall into that submissive state which was intended for them to occupy. They have only to be kept in that state, and treated like children to prevent and cure them from running away.[6] We probably have heard of the expression: "If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear". Drapetomania was considered to be a mental illness. The birth of political psychiatry and legal persecution began by applying authoritarian sources (the holy book, or the book of psychiatry) to judge other people. In other words, if a slave were to run away then under the term drapetomania to not want to be enslaved (to want to be free) is to be mentally ill. This shows that during this time and in these examples not only was the law used as a weapon of oppression but so was psychiatry. Secrecy as the necessary defender of human rights ---- Secrecy is often necessary. Secrecy in the case of safe houses for slaves fleeing persecution for example was a matter of life and death. > Some buildings, such as the Crenshaw House in far southeastern Illinois, are known sites where free blacks were sold into slavery, known as the "Reverse Underground Railroad". Under the terms of the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, when suspected fugitives were seized and brought to a special magistrate known as a commissioner, they had no right to a jury trial and could not testify in their own behalf. Technically, they were guilty of no crime. The marshal or private slave-catcher needed only to swear an oath to acquire a writ of replevin for the return of property. Wisdom is a requirement for transparency to not become a weapon of oppression --- The fact is, I'm not entirely against the idea of transparency. In fact I would prefer transparency if I could know that the transparency will not merely become a tool of oppression. The only way to have responsible transparency is to have a wise population. The problem is that this wisdom usually does not exist. If we look back in history we can see instances where the balance swung toward extreme transparency and what do we see? Even if we look at the current history, even in the wonderful United States, we can still see ignorance. A more transparent society by itself does not make a wise society. For this reason I think the focus on building wisdom (in the emergent peer to peer way) is necessary. Are we there yet? Not even close. In fact, in 2018 I see society (and social media) guided mostly by disinformation, propaganda, and deliberately encouraged ignorance. In that particular environment my expectation (which I hope is wrong) is that any radical transparency will merely result in a weapon of oppression. What could that weapon of oppression look like? It could be a machine which encourages people to expose other people for profit. It could be a machine which encourages people to generate scandals, controversy, or to discredit others. There is no guarantee that the facts will be checked, or that the quality of content will be high, or that the sources will be verifiable and trustworthy, just because there is more transparency. It is true that on the blockchain you can verify transactions, you can prove you came up with an idea (because your blockchain signature shows it), but in my opinion none of this is likely to produce a better world if the quality of decision making itself doesn't scale. More mistakes, more accountability, more transparency, but no indication that there will be anything learned from it. I could be wrong about everything I express in this post. Feel free to debate with me and share your opinion. If I'm wrong, and I have better information, my opinion can always be changed.
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"The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society" - John F Kennedy if the human species wasn't so utterly brainwashed by the need for secrecy they would be free.. secrecy is the absolute worst thing that happened to the entire planet. just my two cents.
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Is there any evidence that the lack of secrecy produces security? Can you tell me how exactly a genocide can be stopped if there is no such thing as for example lying, or secrets? To cite an authority is no different than to cite the bible. The quote I presented cited the bible.
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the bible: Proverbs 14:15 (KJV) The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. - to see the effects of secrecy take a hard look at the current world.. you don't even a have clue what your government is up to - they tell you everything is top secret while holding a policy of total war murdering untold numbers of innocent people along their path of what they tell you is freedom when the sheer fact of the matter: war is for profit and control. if you and everyone else knew what the governments are up to then wars would come to an end, however you don't know because it is secret...
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The other blogger is none other than me! I'm glad I inspired those thoughts but yes you got me wrong on that, I didn't mean them in opposition. Don't be afraid to @ mention me, I'm new and could use the exposure. The kind of wisdom you're talking about here is something not yet experienced by humanity. It's something worth aspiring towards, putting measures in place towards it (as in the debate which spawned this discussion, the AI morality cortex) but this is pure futurism. I would like to believe that we could be so wise as a species that transparency, or anything else for that matter, would not (not "could not") be used as a weapon. In fact, I do think that we have the capacity for more wisdom. The futurist exocortex idea has something to it. Have you read Asimov's [Foundation's Edge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation%27s_Edge)? There is Gaia variant of humanity which brings the Gaia metaphor of a planetary organism to be the literal case. I'm pretty sure that's what Rick and Morty were spoofing in the episode [Unity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ElbUx6lFtY), also worth looking at.
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> The kind of wisdom you're talking about here is something not yet experienced by humanity. It's something worth aspiring towards, putting measures in place towards it (as in the debate which spawned this discussion, the AI morality cortex) but this is pure futurism. Only it's not pure futurism. Corporations have no problem applying quantitative methods to decision making when the goal is making money. [Decision analysis](http://lexicon.ft.com/term?term=decision-analysis) is a field and it's used in the top down way. Decision support and data analytics exist and are being used again in the top down way. So it appears companies have no problem applying the state of the art futurism in the top down way to influence our purchasing habits, or to shift targeted messaging toward us. To exploit our lack of knowledge, our biases, our human frailty, the state of the art computers, data analysis, and quantitative techniques are used. My argument is if we can do it in the top down way, why can't we also do it in the bottom up way? [Automated fact checking](https://www.poynter.org/news/heres-how-close-automated-fact-checking-reality) for example could be done rather easily even on Steemit and yet it's not being done. Yet people complain about fake news. On the other hand censorship powers are widely distributed on various platforms. The ban hammer is applied routinely and liberally, but this creates the sort of culture of ban the person or persons who disagree. Partisanship runs amok to the point where now you cannot even debate politics without someone taking it personal. On the Cambridge Analytics website it says: **DATA DRIVES ALL WE DO** And Big Data is everywhere. Why shouldn't the individual have the ability to process this data? As far as wisdom goes, I would say we have a choice to build technologies which put us on a trajectory to grow wise as a community or not. So far the choice has not been made to put a priority on wisdom. References --- 1. https://cambridgeanalytica.org/
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Good point, especially about the information asymmetry between consumers and corporations. Is it really wisdom they have though, in the genuine sense? I mean that as a question I'm now pondering, not as a challenge. I wonder if being able to recommend movies actually constitutes a wisdom engine. Maybe it's some of the way there. Here's a practical question: how much would it cost to contribute towards a real wisdom engine that actually serves the populous, instead of manipulating them towards purchases and election candidates? How much to even get started? Because the reason we have Cambridge Analytica and Netflix processing all this information and prompting us is to make money, and not for us. Maybe the question is really, how could we get motivated to engage in such a project? Probably there has never been a better historical moment to try to find an answer to that question.
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Now to discuss what I mean by decision support system. A recommender system isn't science fiction. These systems already exist but they are used to recommend what we should buy, what books we should read, etc, rather than something fundamental like the WWW. We have Siri and the like but these again don't functionally promote wisdom (at least not yet). Can I ask Siri to recommend who I should vote for in the next election? If we are talking about wisdom building there is of course the DIKW pyramid. The point being that as the users we don't even seem to own our own data. We do not have our personal knowledge base. Nor so we have the means to put our personal knowledge base into the collective knowledge base so that insight can be deduced from it. The technology exists, it's even in use, it's just not in use in the blockchain space, and not in use for the user. It's considered an enterprise level or government (traditional style) exclusive technology. As a result, as individuals we stay in a state of involuntary ignorance. If we want to be wise we have obstacles in the way. In my blog posts I ask why are there obstacles in our way? Why can't we build our technologies specifically to remove these obstacles? References ---- 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recommender_system
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A recommendation system has been figured out already, but that's not what you propose. You propose a wisdom system which would be useful enough to prevent weaponisation of information asymetry. The reason I call this pure futurism is that it would require several more steps of integration to human life than a simple recommender. But the future eventually does arrive, perhaps sooner than we expect. Again, as I said in my other comment, how to make this happen? What are those several steps?
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Privacy - i.e. one to effectively OWN its data, info and Secrecy - i.e. to cover up your actions and communication - are categorically different things. See etymology.: https://www.etymonline.com/word/secret . Secrecy by definition and essence divides, sets apart people and thus decreases the ease and freedom of communication, and the end of the day impoverishes the society in its sense of a Metcalfe's law scaling network. Privacy = ownership over information, because to own implies to voluntary transfer of trade, is inclusive and binding and increasing wealth and well being. Secrecy = being exclusive and putting fences - has the opposite effect. Also, people and organizations tend to be secretive when they want this way to avoid harm or to inflict harm. Secrecy thus could be regarded as epitome of hostile action.
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I agree that is why I said SECRECY defended LIBERTY rather than privacy defended liberty. The location of the slaves and the safe houses had to be kept a secret to protect life and liberty. If the slaves were captured they may have been killed and certainly would have been put into slavery. So unless somehow we deem slavery as more moral than secrecy then how can we argue for absolute transparency? Secrecy seems to be necessary because there is no evidence that humans in society (historically) will do the right thing if they have maximum transparency. Slavery happened and the slaves only escaped that condition through furtive means. To the slave master in that scenario perhaps secrecy was evil but to the slave trying to be free perhaps secrecy was good. See the point I'm trying to make?
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Consider how transparency can also be the ultimate facilitator of oppression. If we look at the holocaust there is the story of Anne Frank. Anne Frank was being persecuted by her government. She had to hide as all jews were being persecuted and had to hide from the SS and other groups. In this case the stakes were even higher than slavery, this was genocide. Here is a challenge for you. Show me how transparency could have protected the life of Anne Frank? Prove to me that anything other than secrecy would have saved her life. Because I'm convinced she died because of transparency. > Acting on tip from a Dutch informer, the Nazi Gestapo captures 15-year-old Jewish diarist Anne Frank and her family in a sealed-off area of an Amsterdam warehouse. The Franks had taken shelter there in 1942 out of fear of deportation to a Nazi concentration camp. They occupied the small space with another Jewish family and a single Jewish man, and were aided by Christian friends, who brought them food and supplies. Anne spent much of her time in the βsecret annexβ working on her diary. The diary survived the war, overlooked by the Gestapo that discovered the hiding place, but Anne and nearly all of the others perished in the Nazi death camps. References ------- 1. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/anne-frank-captured
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Yeah. I also said that secrecy is violence / counter-violence 'tool. I do not think that terms of transparency can at all apply to non-responsible types of 'governments'.
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I have too much in my mind on this but probably cannot put all of it in words. Transparency to the ignorant is the power to dictatorship. I can quote this from our recent government in power who always claims that we are transparent and we are doing this and that for the benefit of the people, but the wise ones can understand their agendas well. To an extent they use the Monarch butterfly brainwash techniques. The masses fall for it.
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I would add that transcparency can work BETTER if you address the mental health issue overall. Yes, humanity has made progress technologically, and we can now ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT significant forms of transparency, but what good is that if you have a population with a (most people would likely agree) abnormally high level of mental illness - in its many manifestations : personality disorders, developmental issues related to poverty, sub-par education, the effects of "fake news" propaganda which you mentioned. I personally believe [that] Thomas Jefferson's theory that a healthy demcracy relies on an "informed populace" --- but informed on what??? The modern world is a CLUSTER-F*CK of mental abberation (either arising from faulty upbringing an/or brainwashing through the education and media systems) which actually turns transparency into a WEAPON, as you clearly describe here. I mean, just the fact that someone can do a Google search (aka "stalk") for an ex-girlfriend/boyfriend (or other relationship-gone-sour) and the person who is being stalked has ZERO recourse, primarily because the "transparency" often hides the stalking activity, is a fine example of the dangers which this issue creates...
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