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>You may think bots are doing a great thing to Steem, others do not agree. Those that do not agree are in majority number and minority in stake. I often wonder if this is true. I'm serious too, I wonder if we could effectively run a poll and find out.
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author | meno |
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whatsup | 0 | 17,286,904,729 | 6% |
I find it that it is true based on my limited interaction with the community. Thats ofc not a fool proof position but anything going forward would need to be consensus based. A vote. 1account/1vote... And not a plutoratic vote. Plutocracy is a failed system that should be recreated here if we want to sustaun steem for a long time.
post_id | 51,501,010 |
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author | silentscreamer |
permlink | re-meno-re-silentscreamer-re-whatsup-re-meno-re-fyrstikken-bidbots-they-do-not-drain-the-steem-rewardpool-20180603t150416787z |
category | bidbots |
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created | 2018-06-03 15:04:15 |
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baah | 0 | 2,603,464,885 | 100% | ||
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I don't think you understand the system. The blockchain is programmed to be a stake based system. There is no such thing as 1 person one vote here. You can talk about it, but it will never happen. It could also be easily gamed, if you remember when Haejin joined he brought a bunch of level 25 minnow accounts on board that didn't power up, but rather ran around and trolled. Surely you wouldn't want that type of person having equal stake and voice as those of us who might disagree, but are committed to the site and the community.
post_id | 51,511,654 |
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author | whatsup |
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category | bidbots |
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created | 2018-06-03 16:33:39 |
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phoneinf | 0 | 9,241,607,504 | 5% |
I think i completely understand the system. Me not agreeing with it is another thing entirely. SMTs will bring 1account/1vote. Thats exactly what Ned said. It will be a hybrid system at first, which i completely support but SMTs are a shift in the general philosophy. The bot accounts are a problem of course, but with reputation, age of account, plagiarism detection, in place we do not need to base 1account/1vote on the bare bones account existence. Its a matter of logistics at that point. What i see now is a system of Plutocracy and trickle down economics that has been shown to lead to complete failure. That system is imo in place here. That will not lead to any good in the middle or long term.
post_id | 51,512,377 |
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author | silentscreamer |
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category | bidbots |
json_metadata | "{"tags": ["bidbots"], "app": "steemit/0.1"}" |
created | 2018-06-03 16:39:45 |
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macksby | 0 | 4,954,911,305 | 100% | ||
whatsup | 0 | 10,230,378,584 | 3% | ||
baah | 0 | 2,554,342,906 | 100% | ||
phoneinf | 0 | 9,241,607,504 | 5% |
It will never happen, you mean that when Dan said that they were working on a moderation system apart from Curation that didn't resonate with one vote per person or you think moderation (justice) was going to be free market stake based implementation with the biggest wallets having a bigger say in moderation? You're about as committed to the site as your incessant defense for people doing whatever they want with their stake, as you did when you attempted to defend htooms for Self Voting and equally their malicious flagging of fulltimegeek. You are about as concerned with community as when you told me to my face that you'll do whatever you want to marginalize and attack ideas, especially lying and playing the victim or simply spreading your toxic opinion which was based on outright lies and fabrication. Your a fake, a impostor, a complete 180 of what stands as integrity.
post_id | 51,573,603 |
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author | baah |
permlink | re-whatsup-re-silentscreamer-re-meno-re-silentscreamer-re-whatsup-re-meno-re-fyrstikken-bidbots-they-do-not-drain-the-steem-rewardpool-20180604t030843444z |
category | bidbots |
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created | 2018-06-04 03:08:54 |
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You have that right, especially considering he's not the one doing it.
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author | sunlit7 |
permlink | re-whatsup-re-silentscreamer-re-meno-re-silentscreamer-re-whatsup-re-meno-re-fyrstikken-bidbots-they-do-not-drain-the-steem-rewardpool-20180604t081318967z |
category | bidbots |
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created | 2018-06-04 08:13:24 |
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funbobby51 | 0 | 3,385,264,766 | 100% |
if you belong to any community, test the poll there ;)
post_id | 51,548,392 |
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author | holybranches |
permlink | re-meno-re-silentscreamer-re-whatsup-re-meno-re-fyrstikken-bidbots-they-do-not-drain-the-steem-rewardpool-20180603t221233154z |
category | bidbots |
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created | 2018-06-03 22:12:30 |
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I probably could, but the sample is too small... I know you can't really specify exactly what the right sample size would be in order to eliminate as much error as possible from the results, but at the same time, it might be accurate to do a poll with at least a 10% of the active accounts to get a solid idea.
post_id | 51,549,142 |
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author | meno |
permlink | re-holybranches-re-meno-re-silentscreamer-re-whatsup-re-meno-re-fyrstikken-bidbots-they-do-not-drain-the-steem-rewardpool-20180603t222019850z |
category | bidbots |
json_metadata | "{"tags": ["bidbots"], "app": "steemit/0.1"}" |
created | 2018-06-03 22:20:18 |
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any trial at all. better than nothing. For any other person reading this, using my own experience i will repeat it here: nigerian accounts are all over steemit, but nigerians are not. Let any nigerian that reads this dispute it.
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author | holybranches |
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category | bidbots |
json_metadata | "{"tags": ["bidbots"], "app": "steemit/0.1"}" |
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