RE: Are women attracted by muscular male bodies? (Part 1.5 of 2) by georgeboya

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· @georgeboya ·
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So interesting post @alexander.alexis. I was sure that we left the body-builder body back in the 80s but i see it coming strong again. I think its not about getting more attractive for the girls, but being more intimidating to other men.  The world is becoming more cruel, tougher and fearfull  place to be, maybe this triggers  this body building mania.  Signs of our times...
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@alexander.alexis ·
Yeah what you're saying sounds about right: testosterone-filled competition among men. Probably insecurities too.

Also I think bodybuilding might be appealing because of its simplicity. Men are kinda single-minded and want to be given one task to do. So the instruction "get a great body" is at least something they can direct their efforts to, whereas trying to get women in other ways would be oh so complicated (since every woman is different), and would lead to confusion and the age-old "what do women want" question. Figuring women out is hard if not impossible, whereas getting a shredded body is at least doable!
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@georgeboya ·
Its a simple task indeed.  Get a great body and seat around waiting for the woman to come.I can see so many wrongs in this sentence:)
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@alexander.alexis ·
Long-distance orgasms. Now that's a skill I'd like to learn! :P
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@limitless ·
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I agree with your assessment, but I think it's a good thing. It's basically yin-yang balance. When women go too much in the direction of social progressivism, men inevitably have to balance things out by bringing back the older value system of physical prowess. From my experiences, steroids and psychedelics almost have opposite yet synergistic effects on the mind. It's the balance of creativity and rational action, or as Nietzsche puts it, Dionysian vs Apollonian. Steroids is the triumph of the Apollonian ideal. You get a sense of order, accomplishment, and clarity from lifting weights. Yes attracting women is a bonus, but it is much more like playing a RPG video game than a means to a reproductive end. 

In the old days, a few men lived the lives of the archetype hero who goes through the hero's journey to bring value back from chaos. Nowadays, society has been democratized, so now everyone seeks that experience, some through movies, some through video games, some through bodybuilding. The delusion is in the biased mental focus. It's no different from the nerd thinking that he deserves all the women because he has memorized facts that women don't actually care about. Just because you enjoy a particular activity or way of thinking doesn't mean that you deserve the appreciation of others. This is true for everyone... bodybuilders are simply the most externally visible.

This is why I don't have a problem with bodybuilders. Many of my good friends are bodybuilders and I also know plenty of liars and insecure scammers in the community as well. It all depends on if you feel entitled or arrogant about your achievements.
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@alexander.alexis ·
I get what you're saying, and it's insightful, and your comparing bodybuilding to video games does get at the psychology of how many of these people think inwardly, it just becomes an obsession, they wanna get to the next level, define that specific muscle, etc. I myself lift and my brother participates in bodybuilding competitions.

My issues aren't with them per se. I believe in Chomsky's "consent is manufactured", applied widely. Whether women like unnatural bodies, or unnaturally intelligent brains, is all up to the media, very little is up to the women themselves. My concern is with brainwashing in society, disguised as individual choice.

I do think for example that women chose the nerd over and over again in the past. In a more primal state, Bill Gates (because of all his wealth) would own a harem of wives and gaggles of children. The bodybuilder, on the other hand, wouldn't get far in those areas. In fact, their using steroids means they're already on the nerd's path, who'll just discover a scientific way to look shredded without all the hard work and waste of time. Bodybuilding, in a way, has already been made obsolete by the nerd's way of doing things.
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