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>Morality, humans rights, and all that the topic encompasses, has always been fluid. What we call human rights today is vastly different from notions that just a couple of generations ago where believed to be common sense. I do not think morality is fluid and regardless of what people might have once believed to be 'common sense', there are things that have always been morally wrong and will always be wrong and at no time in the past or future could ever be right. Slavery is one example, murder another. Am I misunderstanding what you are saying?
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>here are things that have always been wrong and will always be wrong and at no time in the past or future could ever be right. Slavery is one example, murder another. One would imagine so, but this is sadly not the case. Slavery, as you probably know well, was moral and legal for centuries. As a matter of fact, here in America, the Bible was used as a way to justify it's morality. (Bible has examples of slavery in the old testament) Along the same lines, but much longer ago. Murder was completely Ok, as long as those being killed deserved it for not believing in the <b>correct</b> God. Now... today, with very little exceptions of course, humanity agrees Slavery is wrong and Murder is despicable... Even so, they are not completely abolished either.
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It might have been legal and even accepted as normal by many but slavery has always been morally wrong. How could it have ever been right? How could any man ever have had the right to own another man? Who gave him that right? The same goes for murder. How could any man ever have the right to steal another mans life that did not belong to him? Who gave him that right? Can you think of a circumstance in which it would be morally right for someone to take your life from you when you were not harming them? A right could be defined as any action that is taken that does not cause harm to another sensient being. If the action you take does cause harm to another being (that is not threatening or causing harm to you) then you do not have the right to take the action. It's that simple. Moral relativism allows people to excuse whatever behavior or action they see fit as long as they believe in thier heads it is ok or that the people around them believe its ok.
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but we don't disagree Jim... Knowing what we know today, we clearly see all these old practices as unacceptable... but we are living today, and that distinction is key. It seems obvious now... I mean... I'm with you 100% but if we read some of the ideas being espoused by revered thinkers, political figures and leaders of years past, we might feel shocked and confused. For example, Jefferson is remembered as a founding father, as our third president, as a man who helped lay the first bricks to create this great nation. But... he also owned slaves. In his day, nobody thought of him as a monster... and we try to be fair to the context of time.
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