It's no secret that we live in a very divided atmosphere. This, the fueled tribalism we partake of, has began to not only label people as members of a creed, but to deem them irredeemable, <i>not worth fixing</i>, so to speak. <center> <img src="https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/EPA_trump_rally_Cf_160314_12x5_992.jpg"> <a href="https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/EPA_trump_rally_Cf_160314_12x5_992.jpg">img src</a> </center> What are we saying we utter those words? Have we truly given deep thought to the implications? Does it mean that a mistake cannot be corrected? Does it mean that someone can't outgrow their current position? Does it mean that if someone is wrong, that person must be wrong because they are evil? You see, these are fair questions, and we don't truly think about them enough in my opinion. We have a system, a judicial system, that is not interested in redeeming anyone, just punishing those who've made mistakes. On top of that laws are not always ethical, as we know, and mistakes and punishments don't work the same for those who belong to the special club, the elites. I submit to you that there's just very rare cases, and I do mean rare when referenced against the general population, where someone is actually irredeemable. A mass murderer is a hyperbolic example, but the point I'm trying to make is that if you believe there are thousands of people in your hometown who are <i>idiots, horrible, or evil</i>, then I think you've fallen victim to the othering propaganda. If we are honest and we think about our own life's journey, the beliefs we once held and grew out of, the positions we spoused and argued for in public that now seem either ridiculous or immature, we would clearly see that we are always changing. I was not born believing in equality, I was taught to embrace it, and admitting so does not make me an ex-villain. Morality, humans rights, and all that the topic encompasses, has always been fluid. What we call human rights today is vastly different from notions that just a couple of generations ago where believed to be common sense. I guess this short post is just an invitation for thought. If you think there is such thing as irredeemable people, then maybe you've not considered that some see you in the same way, and that a bridge to heal that divide won't just appear if we get angry enough. MenO
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I agree, Meno. Too often we treat people like monsters because they disagree with us or don't share our same morals, when, really, we are all just trying to make it through life the best way we know how. I do believe there are some evil people in the world, like *truly* evil, but I know there are more good people in the world than the bad. And the evil ones.. can they change? Of course. Will they? Doubtful. If you've murdered 25 people by noon on a Sunday and plan to do it again on Monday.. doesn't seem like you might be changing anytime soon, but maybe one day .. but the damage by that point has been done. Now I've gone out on a tangent. But then that is just what you do to me, you tangent invoker. ;)
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Actually , I stopped myself from wandering off of the topic before I really did it. But I was about to go off into the discussion of what happens to the people who do redeem themselves in some way, but they will never be seen that way in the eyes of all the people they damaged along the way. How can you really be redeemed, if no one wants to redeem you? Maybe I might need to look up the actual definition of redeem. Anyway. Hope you are well, and having good luck with all the house stuff. : ) Hugs! ♥
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You are always funny Serena... even when you don't try! <3
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A word triage comes to mind. With limited time and resources, we have to prioritise who to save, sounds cold but I don't think there I any other way.
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i won't disagree with that per say... but in my personal experience, most people are good. Key word here being most... they just might be confused or misinformed.. or even I may be the misinformed one...
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>Morality, humans rights, and all that the topic encompasses, has always been fluid. What we call human rights today is vastly different from notions that just a couple of generations ago where believed to be common sense. I do not think morality is fluid and regardless of what people might have once believed to be 'common sense', there are things that have always been morally wrong and will always be wrong and at no time in the past or future could ever be right. Slavery is one example, murder another. Am I misunderstanding what you are saying?
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>here are things that have always been wrong and will always be wrong and at no time in the past or future could ever be right. Slavery is one example, murder another. One would imagine so, but this is sadly not the case. Slavery, as you probably know well, was moral and legal for centuries. As a matter of fact, here in America, the Bible was used as a way to justify it's morality. (Bible has examples of slavery in the old testament) Along the same lines, but much longer ago. Murder was completely Ok, as long as those being killed deserved it for not believing in the <b>correct</b> God. Now... today, with very little exceptions of course, humanity agrees Slavery is wrong and Murder is despicable... Even so, they are not completely abolished either.
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It might have been legal and even accepted as normal by many but slavery has always been morally wrong. How could it have ever been right? How could any man ever have had the right to own another man? Who gave him that right? The same goes for murder. How could any man ever have the right to steal another mans life that did not belong to him? Who gave him that right? Can you think of a circumstance in which it would be morally right for someone to take your life from you when you were not harming them? A right could be defined as any action that is taken that does not cause harm to another sensient being. If the action you take does cause harm to another being (that is not threatening or causing harm to you) then you do not have the right to take the action. It's that simple. Moral relativism allows people to excuse whatever behavior or action they see fit as long as they believe in thier heads it is ok or that the people around them believe its ok.
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