Voting club --- the breaker of chains or secret SP societey ( bounty inside ) by flipstar

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· @flipstar · (edited)
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Voting club --- the breaker of chains or secret SP societey ( bounty inside )
<center>![broken-chain1.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUb715SShzWzTx7NqsdsKpg2RH9Ux4MBv8DuUbeW5meWR/broken-chain1.jpg)</center>

To make it short in a Steemworld were x amounts of bots are luring you in to delegate your SP to them and promising you a piece of the pie they are an absolute blessing. 

Your SP comes out to play without anyone having to pay for it. As it meant to be!!

You will still curate yourself and set an amount of voting power you want to maintain. 

When your voting power exceeds this amount you will cast votes to other club members and vice versa.

The best thing is it is more profitable than having your SP delegated in a bot.


Have a look at some community bots like @ssg-community for example. They work well and if you post regular they are way more profitable than delegating your SP to a bot.

<center>"But is it not a self jerking circle?"</center>


<center>![secret-society.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmPtmihGJQCPxLrumfrewX5ZN2SgGDGhLKiKYVKefhaFjN/secret-society.jpg)</center>


Yes and no.

Of course it is not perfect but Steemit will never be perfect and at least you have to write to benefit from it.

You keep your SP in your account and can still upvote by hand.

Yes there can and probably will be abuse and shitposts and all of that but I think it is a step in the right direction to bring earning, creating and engaging back togehter. 

What we have now,  isthat so much SP is held hostage in various bots if you look at the trending pages and take a look who the biggest voters are you can see it is the hookers of steemit but that is probably another post.


I will try it and see how well and if it works...


<center>Let me know what you think you can check the original post [here](https://steemit.com/steem-bounty/@steem-bounty/new-voting-service-by-steem-bounty)</center>
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Thank you for being here for me, so I can be here for you.
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@andyjaypowell ·
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So far I have resisted the temptation to delegate SP. On the contrary, I am still trying to build up VP...
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@flipstar · (edited)
MYself I gave into the temptation before and regreted it.
I think it is fine to a degree if you dont post. But posting and wanting to earn with bots, this double dipping without giving a shit about being able to give back I dont like.

But hey, everyone has to decide that for themselves
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@goldrooster ·
I have a 2nd account with 5500 delegated SP to bots with some 17% ROI. The ROI of so called voting clubs (ssg and silvergold botty ) are way higher but require a daily post. So I do  a bit of everything.
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@blazing ·
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Well that's still a nice way as only active ones would be benefited no system is 100% capable of doing things right but even if it reaches close to that mark means we are heading in right direction and this is one such step :) thanks for sharing me about this :D
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@bronkong · (edited)
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> What we have now, isthat so much SP is held hostage in various bots if you look at the trending pages and take a look who the biggest voters are you can see it is the hookers of steemit but that is probably another post.

True words and a big problem in my eyes...
This is making the voting system "artificial" ...less and less real support anymore
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@flipstar ·
yeah sucks! Hope it will get better someday
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@yanes94 ·
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I do not agree with the bots, Steemit is supposed to be a social network where people win for their content, that is, the person has to see the content that they like and either comment or vote if it is to their liking, but with the robots has become a round business, because people who have more SP prefer to earn profits by delegating their power to a bot than voting for someone who makes content in the community that we are tiny!
that's what happens a lot now ,? There are many silly publications with a lot of money because they pay a bot.
In my opinion, many bots have the steemit people winning little  because there are no healers!
just go in and delegate a bots and win without doing anything!
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@mimismartypants ·
I guess its just the easy way out. The whales fo it so why shouldn't the small fish?? I dont much sp though so not sure if i will be delegating anytime soon!! 

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@flipstar ·
Keep that SP ;-)
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@rentmoney ·
Irrelevant to your post but when I first seen your topic title Game Of Thrones came to mind.

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@flipstar ·
I had the inspiration for the title from GoT :-)
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@intellihandling ·
We have delegated something to smartsteem and somenthing to UA-Steem authority which we think they are not bots, but human service. Unfortunately UA-Steem authority is giving the only external chat service this fucking bull shit of discord, after i installed my windows 10 crashed sistematically with iced screen, i hope they will implent Telegram as well
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@flipstar · (edited)
How is smartsteem not a bot service?

I just know them from their bot service and have not looked what they have to offer for quite a while so maybe it developed

I run discord under windows 10 as well without any problems
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@ozgurcinarli ·
If you are social and enter into groups and communicate with the members actively it is better to upvote each other manually, otherwise using bots is the only choice.
👍  
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@flipstar ·
I mean it is a social network here so communicating with others is part of the game.

I see authors doing well for themselves without bots.
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@ozgurcinarli · (edited)
It is fine for the authers who have valuable things to share. For others, bots may save the day. :)
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@adrif ·
very good
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@simplymike ·
$0.05
I think it is an interesting concept, but still I have my doubts. Mainly because you have no idea what kind of post is rewarded with your vote. Nevertheless, I might give it a try. The problem is that I don't have a lot of VP to spare. I will have to make some serious changes  in the ways that I spend my VP before this would be profitable.

I do think it's great that people are actively looking for a solution for the bot-problem.
👍  
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@flipstar ·
I dont really thinkg about it as VP to spare more as if I dont have time on one day and so the VP doesnt go to waste. 

I like that it requires you to post and have the SP in your Wallet. If it will work out and be a better system as the bots...we shall see.

As you I will give it a try
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@romeliagarcia ·
Definitely, one of the great secrets of steemit is in the SP. Increase it until more can not hahaha
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@oclinton ·
I have delegated when i run out of post.
But i have recall it back.
👍  
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@flipstar ·
I have done this as well and to a degree I think bots are fine but not as it is at the moment
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@lichtblick · (edited)
$0.04
I am guessing I should give via vessel @ssg-community  a try :-)
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@flipstar ·
$0.04
check it out!
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@jehovahwitness ·
When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it.
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@ssg-community ·
$0.02
Thank you for your continued support of SteemSilverGold
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@cryptopie ·
$0.03
Sometimes people choose to get into the loophole of a system. @flipstar and that is what is happening in steemit, it is misused and abused with bots as a fine example.
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@flipstar ·
Sadly yes but I hope this can free up some SP again
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@verifyme ·
@flipstar You have received a 100% upvote from @intro.bot because this post did not use any bidbots and you have not used bidbots in the last 30 days!

Upvoting this comment will help keep this service running.
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@elbiasto ·
$0.03
Very good idea :) That way people can generate a good ROI without giving power to voing bots :) I already signed up :)
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@flipstar ·
Same here. I hope it will work out
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@niallon11 ·
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I would rather if there were no bots on steemit and everything was grown organically but unfortunately that has never been the case and will probably never be the case. So as things stand i will use bots to an extent. They do gain you more visibility and if you use them smart it can make you a small bit of extra steem.

For voting I keep my SP right where  i can see it in my wallet so that i can use it every  day. I'm fairly active on here so for me it's important that i have good SP to vote and to power my account. What i have done is i have set a threshold on smartsteem so that if my voting power ever passes 90% then it will vote using my power. I think that it's a very economical way to do it since my Sp is there for me to use when i can but anytime that i am working or away from the site it will continue to earn for me and not waste a drop. It's all about how you use the system. Some people abuse it to the extreme but most just play smart with what they have.
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@flipstar ·
I think bots can have a time and a place but the current situation is shit.

With the extra voting power I have done this as well with Minnowbooster and the same concept is with the voting club. 

I use it not to make money but to make money if I dont have time to write and vote myself so my Votingpower does not go to waste if it exceeds 100%
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@justmeagain ·
$0.27
Hello Steem-Bounty folk.  I've joined the Vote Club, but I know that with HD20 coming tomorrow, my tiny .002 Vote Power will be rounded down to ZERO.  After the Hardfork the minimum Vote Power will be .02.  So, I was thinking of leasing SP through Minnow Booster.  I have 40 SP now and think I will need another 400 at least, just to get up to the minimum .02  Perhaps I should lease 4000 SP. According to this calculator (https://www.steemnow.com/upvotecalc.html), 4000 would give my vote a value of .22.  What do you advise regarding SP leasing.  Do you think it would add value to the program?  With the little that I have, I just don't think my vote is worth anything at all, in this program or even without it.  I am ashamed to be so poor and afraid to offend others by voting with nothing to give.  That's because I've been scolded for voting and bringing down the rewards due to the author and his circle-jerking buddies.  Your advise would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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@justmeagain ·
BTW, I can't upvote your post.  It won't process.  Is that because my vote is so WORTHLESS already???
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@flipstar ·
First of all there is nothing to be ashamed about to have not much SP

I dont think anyone mind if you join with not this much SP as the program is based on your voting power and not on your amount of SP.

If it is wise to lease SP...I cant really tell you I have never done it but I will ask some friends who have done it and will come back to you.
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@justmeagain ·
@flipstar, thanks.  Some people do mind if low vote value members vote on their blog posts.   

My vote power only has a value of $.002, so after the hardfork it will be worth zero.  That's the new Dust Vote changes.  Any vote less than $.02 becomes ZERO.

About the leasing of SPs, I mean specifically for the Steem-Bounty Vote Club.  Thanks again.
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@buttcoins ·
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it all confuses me a bit.   The money has just always been such a back seat for me... though its dumb to say it.    some day i will smarten up and use the tools that are in front of me.
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@flipstar ·
I have to say the money was and is a big factor and motivator for me but if there would not be any fun involved I would be gone. 

I think some things are ok to do and others are not.
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