I claimed a few accounts today: Is this something that everyone who can, should be doing? by abh12345

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· @abh12345 · (edited)
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I claimed a few accounts today: Is this something that everyone who can, should be doing?
Four, to be precise, and even though i'm not 100% sure on what I'll be doing with them, it seems this is something everyone, with the ability to do so, should be doing.

On reading @davemccoy's post the other day, and the comments that followed, I learned a few things including opinions on Resource Credits (RCs). Also, in this comment thread, some information on how Steemit inc see how things will play out in future: https://steemit.com/steemit/@whatsup/re-davemccoy-steemit-the-anti-social-network-20181007t181112798z

I don't really wish to go into 'what is the right amount of RCs' to allocate to a 'good' account to function, whilst limiting a 'bad' accounts behavior, but I guess this may happen in the comments anyway :)

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#### Resource Credit costs 
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At present, there are approximately 1450 Steem blockchain accounts that can claim accounts using their Resource Credits.  I estimate that to claim one account, it currently costs around 5,000,000,000,000 credits, which I also estimate to be around 2500 Steem Power.

The above estimates were done by refreshing https://steemd.com/@abh12345 after claiming an account.

NOTE: Claiming an account is different from creating an account.  A claimed account 'token' can be used to create a free account.

To put the amount of RCs required for this transaction into perspective, steemd has some approximate costs listed for other transactions:

- comments - 1,570,000,000
- votes - 282,000,000
- transfers/power-ups -	259,000,000
### 
Claiming an account is the equivalent of (another 'approximately' here) 3,184 comments, or 17,730 votes.  Pretty 'expensive' in comparison?

And so as stated above, this cost means that 'only' 1450 or so accounts have this privilege - 0.0012% of all Steem accounts, not many.  At the time of writing, 74 of these 1450 odd accounts have claimed at least one account - about 5%.  Again, not many.

I'm not sure at yet if this is a good or a bad thing, and I guess it depends on the owners plans?  These claimed accounts will need RCs to power them, and I assume that in the future, RCs will be sold/hired, much like SP delegations work now.  I have no idea, how much they be valued at, if anything, at least to start with. 

With just over 14250 SP, I have a 'max mana' of 44,311,250,466,768 - which using the 'back of a cigarette packet' calculations above, provides me the power to comment around 27,000 times - excluding recharge time during typing (or executing code, boo).  This means, that I don't see an issue with delegating loads out of these for free.  We shall see how the market forms when the time comes.

Could Resource Credits (or the accounts claimed by them) be more profitable than a bid-bot delegation in time? I digress...

#### How to claim an account?  
#### 
Use the link below by:

1. Copying everything between the quote marks
2. Removing the Spaces at either side of 'your_username'
3. Inserting your username, without the @, where it says 'your_username'
### 
**WARNING!** - If you have around 2500-2700 active SP (delegations to and from count here, unlike with MVESTS and witness voting), you should be able to claim 1 account but this may severely restrict what else you can do for a couple of days!

'https://steemconnect.com/sign/claim_account?creator= your_username &fee=0.000%20STEEM&extensions=[]'

You will need to use your private active key, but Steemconnect is popular and considered secure.

![image.png](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmSUgKpmxYuWpKGrsyAsHVysq9Q5qNTaqxy8PomZZ6RKQy)

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I realize that the above instructions are relevant to very few, considering the number of Steem accounts registered, but I would like to hear the thoughts of everyone with regards to the future of Resource Credits, and RC delegations.

Do you think I'm right in claiming a few?  Should I be claiming as many as possible?

Do you think there will swiftly become a market, or if they will be issued for free to start with / for years?

Can you guess who's doing a lot of account claims at present?

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmQsHfNChhKJXuSd451R5vLYGsUW2oqTJjpu7Zz1PrqWW8/image.png)

accountcreators, at the bottom there :)

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Cheers

Asher
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@steevc ·
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If I can persuade some people to sign up then I'll help them get an account like this. The process needs to be simple and obvious.
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@abh12345 ·
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I suggest that you can currently claim 2 accounts, before needing a rest to recharge your RCs.

It's you who in future, will be able to create the accounts (I don't think claimed accounts can be issued before they 'exist in full')

Then you can create the account (hopefully when Steemconnect update their account creation screen) for yourself or whoever, and then finally, (when this feature is available) delegate Resource Credits to it as 'fuel'.
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@steempeak ·
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maybe we can work on that
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@cryptoandcoffee ·
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You are teasing me lol. I can get 20 percent of an account. Something to look forward to, but obviously need to worry about the main account first.
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@abh12345 ·
At present.  I wonder if the RC costs will rise in future?

Would you be claiming as many as you could if this was an option right now?
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@cryptoandcoffee ·
I think if I could get a couple I would. I think the cost of an RC will rise as demand increases.
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@oups ·
That sounds bad, what you gonna do with those accounts? Already named ones, I wish you took some good names to sell it later like apple, microsoft, iphone-m (you'll need to wait 40 more years tho)  :)

> Can you guess who's doing a lot of account claims at present?

OFC I can guess, the guys who tries to rape the cow. It's not about milking anymore  :facepalm:
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@gillianpearce ·
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I tempted to give it ago with my account and see what happens @ash12345 but I don't want to end up not being able to do anything else for a couple of days.

I'm not at 2,500 anyway so it probably won't work.

I'll be interested to hear what others have to say about this though. There seems to be a distinct lack of information about what happens next.
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@abh12345 ·
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Check out the thread in Dave's that I linked above.  I found that pretty informative.

I think you are a bit short of the required RCs, and if my rough calcs are correct, 3k SP would be 'safe' to claim and still function.
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@gillianpearce ·
>3k SP would be 'safe' to claim and still function.

OK. Thanks @abh2345.

I read Dave's article this morning and started replying but then deleted it. I tend to find those sorts of discussions pretty demotivating so decided not to take my comments any further.It was an interesting read though. I just don't like all the "fighting".
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@akomoajong · (edited)
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I figure accounts will be a big business in future. So, I will be claiming as much as I can if I'm able to do so. Currently, steem monsters offer steemit accounts for free but you must buy a certain pack and the make it look the other way round.

Also check out why @actifit is claiming accounts and even made a script for auto claims.

https://steemit.com/actifit/@actifit/actifit-updates-automated-account-claims-delegators-steem-new-sbd-payouts-top-actifitters-top-token-holders-and-more

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@abh12345 ·
Well it's not quite free then - but this sounds like an interesting approach.  I wonder if certain accounts in the list above will give away 'free' bot votes for buying claimed/created accounts from them?
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@sift666 ·
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All this is way over my head but back in the old days I set up four accounts - so I hope you are saying they are all potentially worth shitloads and my new Ferrari is in the pipeline :)

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRz5p2RhFY7k1r4cHJmaSnCpuNzJif1WpiFPkAeLHuxJa/image.png)
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@abh12345 ·
If someone likes the names you have chosen, then maybe!

With claiming, the account could be named by the future owner - Is that better, I think so - unless you've camped on some really cool usernames :)
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@sift666 ·
Not that cool really - frot, sift666, mg-nz and a secret one!
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@mountainjewel ·
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Very interesting! I may take back some delegations so that I can try my hand at this. I too think it’s something everyone who can do it should be doing- especially given who’s racking up the accounts in your list up there 😏
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@abh12345 ·
Yeah.  Part of the reason for me claiming some was because I feel these names know what the are doing.

I also wanted a few just so they don't have them all! :D
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@slobberchops ·
$0.07
I'm a little confused at all this. After HF20, new people are supposed to be able to create free accounts, so what is the purpose of 'claiming' an account?

What would the 'claimed' account be called? (@confusedchops)
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@tarazkp ·
$0.02
The claim is a credit to create an account at a later date, there is no name on it. It means that between now and mainstreaming, accounts, Dapps etc can claim discounted accounts to issue to new users when they go live. with RC delegation (coming) they will be able to power them to move without needing to provide any SP that can be abused.
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@slobberchops ·
One day.. the haze will clear in front of my eyes. Im under the impression nobody yet knows what the true benefit of doing this really is. 

RC delegation? Is that really going to be a thing I wonder. It all seems a little elitist. Can the new guy who is just starting not get a fair chance at the whip and post and comment without all these limitations on numbers?
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@abh12345 · (edited)
$0.07
The claimed account has no name, it is given a name on creation.  So really, a claimed account is just a token you hold - the blockchain keeps count of these which can be used to call the 'create_me_an_account_using_a_claim_I_hold' function in future.
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@fr3eze ·
So the more accounts one claimed the more one can create freely for the sake of others? Great piece of sharing buddy.
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@slobberchops ·
As Im in a position to claim, I may as well I suppose. Im still confused at what benefit this holds over a new user simply creating a new account though. If I handed the reigns of a 'claimed' account to someone, does it come with extra bells and whistles?
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@headchange ·
$0.03
I got an account with my Steem Monster purchase. It is really just kind of sitting there doing nothing. 
This is way beyond my comprehension but maybe If I follow along I will figure it out.
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@abh12345 ·
You mean, you are not producing content and voting it with your main account? :D
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@headchange ·
Well for the sake of honesty I did buy it a minnowbooster vote for a whole 1.00 How did you know? Any way  other than that one post it is just  kind of been sitting there doing nothing for 3 weeks. Except now it has 4sp instead of 3. 
I am just going to lurk and see what everyone else is doing with their spare accounts.
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@shanibeer ·
$0.05
I hadn't thought about a market in claimed accounts, but it had occurred to me that I have way more RCs than I can use (even if I was channelling @janton) and so I'm expecting a delegation market of some kind ...
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@abh12345 ·
$0.04
To interact yes, but i think with your 3k delegation out, the 2k active SP you have is not enough to claim an account.

I threw away a question in the post:  Could Resource Credits (or the accounts claimed by them) be more profitable than a bid-bot delegation in time?

If this does turn out to be true, then it would pay to have at least 3000 held in your account to be able to claim an account every 4/5 days or so.
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@shanibeer ·
Indeed. It just keeps getting more interesting.
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@mountainjewel ·
ok is this still the going rate? i'm going to try with the @naturalmedicine account which has 3,382 active SP (a lot of it is delegated to it)... sounds like I will try once (see if I can do it) and then see how the recharge goes. It'd be cool to have many accounts under our community's belt! 
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@mountainjewel ·
ok update... i guess it costs a lot more today?? 

![Screen Shot 20181009 at 5.59.31 PM.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/mountainjewel/YenkpWdg-ScreenShot2018-10-09at5.59.31PM.png)
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@demotruk ·
$0.03
*Gobbles up accounts*
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@abh12345 ·
I'm glad to hear it coming from you :)
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@whatsup ·
$0.05
Alright, I successfully followed the directions... Now what?  lol where is the account and how would I access it.

I'm usually up to speed on things, but I have no idea what I just did.  :)

PS.  My RC's were at 100% before claiming the account.

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmfDDgm7SAXZPQpNiiLgEF61cXcPVsJHAs2pxvMsxEFfRT/image.png)
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@abh12345 ·
$0.03
You have 1 pending_claimed_account (search for this text)

https://api.steemjs.com/get_accounts?names[]=whatsup

I'm guessing that there will be a tool on steemconnect to create the account.  You can create accounts here at present, but it seems that the functionality to use a claimed account has not been added yet.

https://steemconnect.com/accounts/create

I don't have any use for the accounts (yet), and so not requiring to create them (with a name) works for me.
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@ura-soul ·
$0.27
You can use the following scripts to claim and actually create accounts via your command line already - no need to wait for steemconnect or anyone else:

https://steemit.com/beem/@holger80/claiming-and-creating-a-discounted-account-using-beem
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@themarkymark ·
$0.08
Right now the only way to use claim tokens is via programming.  It is fairly simple but will require a few steps to set it up so you can even run it.
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@binkyprod ·
$0.08
So what's the purpose of claiming an account? And claiming if not creating a new account, so what does a claimed account do for us?
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@demotruk ·
It's basically a token which allows you to create an account for free later.
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@binkyprod ·
Cool. Thanks.
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@abh12345 ·
I guess it's a bit like buying a monster pack in June :) Not much you could do with it then, but the promise of them being valuable in the future seemed to work!

You hold the claimed account like a token, which can then be used to create an account for free.
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@binkyprod ·
Hehe nice analogy. So I guess I need to check, after all of today's transactions, if I can claim one lol
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@demotruk ·
You can't sell the tokens. It's a little silly to treat them as a speculative asset.
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@soyrosa · (edited)
$0.10
I was in a 'why not' mood so I tried it, but: 
> Oops! Something went wrong!
Account: soyrosa has 5450961520480 RC, needs 5503870960213 RC. Please wait to transact, or power up STEEM.

I was trying this with 2699 active/undelegated SP. 

I know from other posts the 'claim' price fluctuates so it might be more expensive or cheaper depending on how many people are actually claiming accounts. 

EDIT: I read some of the answers already on the questions below - didn't refresh the tab before posting my comment ;-) I'm an 'open 20 tabs and start reading/commenting' kinda gal
> What do you think people are planning to do with these claimed accounts? Is it to sell them like you would 'buy' a domain name in the hope someone wants that exact name? Or is it just a placeholder because for now I didn't see a way to give that account a name? 

> I'm super confused still but well - that's the whole fun of being an early bird :-) Something to learn every day.
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@abh12345 ·
I'm glad you didn't have just over the 5503870960213 required or else you would be a little stuffed for a day or so!

Thanks for testing it and showing us an error message - it's nice they show you the cost here - or the current cost I should say.

Just a placeholder for now - perhaps the final user will have the ability to name their account that they are given?

Thanks for the info!
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@soyrosa ·
LOL, yes, I only took the jump because I'll mostly be offline tomorrow. I wouldn't even have been able to share the results though :') 

It would be awesome if we could see in advance what the 'current cost' is, like right before you submit your SteemConnect credentials. Less chance of sudden lock-outs. I hope someone develops a nice account buying tool with this handy feature built-in :-)
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@niallon11 ·
If it's large accounts building up a stock I can see them trying to make a profit but for the apps like actifit it makes perfect sense to stockpile them now for a time when they are getting a lot of new users trying to sign up and will be able to start them instantaneously unlike before with a two week wait.

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@niallon11 ·
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I'm sitting on about 3k sp so i might give it a try at the weekend. I'm going drinking for three days anyway so if it wipes my mana it won't really bother me too much. I would be able to get a fairly accurate read on it too if I have enough rc to create one. 

There are a few of my friends who have heard me talk up steem for ages and things like actifit have them intrigued so if i could get ten people to join over the year it wouldn't be a bad result. If everybody got ten active members it would be a massive result.

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@abh12345 ·
From @soyrosa's comment, it looks like the SP required is closer to 2700 SP - about 5,400,000,000,000 RCs.  If this is right, you'll have about 10% of your creds left, which should be pretty tricky to burn via other transactions - unless you plan to topple janton of course ! :D

I've got a least 5 people to join, none of which are currently active :(
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@niallon11 ·
I don't even have the energy to try and topple janton. It's not worth it. At the moment even with lots of activity I barely drop below 100% at any stage so even if I burn 90% then it should keep building even if I'm active.

I did get about 5 people to join a year ago and set up accounts for a couple of them but none of them are active right now. They just never got involved from the start but their interest wasn't writing or blogging. With some of the apps we have now there should be a lot more chance of them getting addicted to the site and to earning steem like the rest of us but it does take time for people to commit. We lose most people from the beginning and the ones who do stay tend to really love it after. 

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@newageinv ·
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This is great to accumulate as the future can hold great alternatives for us to help in the on boarding of new users.  Do the tokens have an expiration date?  If not, it make be a good strategy to use excess RC to claim an account and accumulate them, right?  I still can't delegate any RC so might as well use it for something as I have never gotten below 97% and I am quite active.
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@abh12345 ·
Yes I think you should be OK to claim one every 3/4 days, and from what I've heard there is no expiry one when the account can be created from the claim.
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@newageinv ·
Done!  Took about 67% of my RC but already recharging pretty fast with no impact to my engagement ability!  Thanks!
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@jeezzle ·
$0.03
So just to be clear,  I could claim three accounts per day with my 11, 400 SP and still be able to make a few post and a few comments??

Also this account creation fee or whatever it is which apparently uses resource credits is something that will completely recharged and will never actually have a permanent fee attached to it?  it's essentially just free to create them because I have that much SP but I have to wait for it to recharge in order to create more?
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@abh12345 ·
$0.04
You would be able to claim 3 to start, but need to wait 3 days or so to be fully charged to claim 3 more.  

Use https://steemd.com/@jeezzle to check on your RCs and how big a dent claiming is.
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@jeezzle ·
Cool. Thanks.
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@jznsamuel ·
$0.03
I don't know what I did but I did something :D
Wow this claiming of account took my RC from 100% to 20%. Need to give it some rest now, thanks for sharing this though :)
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@abh12345 ·
That's ok, just check on https://steemd.com/@jznsamuel to see where your RCs are at.  When they get to 100% again, claim another :)
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@lyndsaybowes ·
$0.94
Awesome, thanks Asher!  I claimed one, this is what it looked like before:

![Screen Shot 2018-10-08 at 8.08.16 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmfAuaqsniSG8eZ1W74SJPhyEkWNgPDV7vDfsPtWsxjbJB/Screen%20Shot%202018-10-08%20at%208.08.16%20PM.png) 

And after: 

![Screen Shot 2018-10-08 at 8.11.41 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSJDrR6ic6mxf3jNp3rKaepedWaMVb76u6idAkrV8ZneD/Screen%20Shot%202018-10-08%20at%208.11.41%20PM.png)

Awesome Stuff!!  So exciting!!!!!!!!
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@yogajill ·
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Good for you Lynds!!
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@lyndsaybowes ·
$0.86
Hopefully this can get some more of our fam over here!  I gots accounts y'all hahahaha!  Let me know if you got a friend who needs to be hooked up.  We got this Jill!!
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@davemccoy ·
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Excellent to see you get in on this Lyndsay!  I imagine you will find some cool people to bring along and enjoy Steemit too!  Very cool :)
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@abh12345 ·
$0.07
Awesome!

I think we should be claiming what we can, if only to share the distribution out a little.  Nice one! :D
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@binkyprod ·
$0.03
Heh, I went on Steemd and the amount of RC's I have are five times less than what I need to claim an account: 1,099,455,601,694 lol heuheuheu Oh well, I guess I don't have to worry about using up all my RCs in one go anymore :D
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@abh12345 ·
$0.03
No I think you are safe - this is by far the chunkiest transaction I'm aware of.
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@bashadow ·
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Based on this paragraph from <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/hf20-update-operations-stable">"HF20 Update: Operations Stable"</a>

> <h2>Blockchain Subsidized Account Creation</h2>
The RC system has delivered the ability to create “blockchain subsidized” accounts, which means that it now has<b> uncapped</b> the scalability of the platform’s account system by <i>introducing the possibility of account creation into the quadrillions of accounts.</i> Prior to HF20, the hard limit of accounts was in its best case defined as the total available STEEM supply divided by the amount of STEEM spent to create an account. Now, because the rate of subsidized account creation is determined by the witnesses, Steem can admit as many people into our community as <b><i>we desire, as long as the witnesses agree that it is safe to do so</i></b>.

1. uncapped - I do not know a lot about business, but when reading this in context, it does not sound good, to me it sounds like limited edition, but we get to keep making more and more as long as people want to buy. So not a collectable item for value growth.

2. <i>introducing the possibility of account creation into the quadrillions of accounts.</i> That pretty much like I said kills the individual ability for growth. Who would "buy" at your price when someone with 30 times more accounts undercuts your price and are always able to undercut the price of the competitors. 

3.  <b><i>we desire, as long as the witnesses agree that it is safe to do so</i></b> So out of the top 20 witnesses, one individual can alter the make up at whim, so **we desire** means diddly squat.

But like I said, I am not a businessman, just a user. Also RC's have been removed from the consensus loop, so to me that just adds more risk.

And part of the paragraph from <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/hf20-update-restoring-continuity">HF20 Update: Restoring Continuity</a>, that I still have issues with, this was put out by the steemiblog, I have been told that the **we** are the witnesses,

> Due to the fact that many components of the RC system are non-consensus, <b>we</b> can continue to adjust the resource pool budgets, track trends, and <b>adjust charges</b> incrementally over time so that we can meet our third goal of moving us toward sustainable pricing of blockchain operations. 

so currently and in the future there is no price stability guarantee for RC's. Like all taxes, once implemented they never go down. From steem.io front page:

> <h3>Faster than Bitcoin and Ethereum, with no fees</h3>
Running a rewards-based decentralized social network required new advances in blockchain technology. Steem is a next-generation blockchain, uniquely designed to run real-time applications with near instant, <b><i>fee-free transactions</i></b>.
> 
> Steem has been battled-tested over the last 18 months, already processing more transactions per second than Bitcoin and Ethereum.


So I don't think even if I was able to I would at this point buy an account token
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@abh12345 ·
$0.02
Thanks for collating this info @bashadow.

I'm really just claiming a few to distribute the ownership a little, and I'm not fussed that they may not hold value as such.

This morning they 'cost' 6,100,000,000,000 to claim, 10% more than when I wrote the blog...
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@bashadow ·
I'm catching up on dave's anti-social post comments. A lot of info in those comments, and a lot of comments.
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@bil.prag ·
$0.03
will not bother me for a loooong time :D 

only 0.0012%? it looks like big fish continue to get the cool toys and small get 5 comments a day :) not sure is it helping the steem as a social network.
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@abh12345 ·
I guess so, but I think it's correct that those with stake should have more freedom to do this than those who do not.
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@bil.prag ·
i agree but it should not be exclusive. all should have the possibility, for example i could make 2 and someone with 50.000 could make 50 or something like that.   
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@crokkon ·
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The RC system introduces a new kind of "power" similar to voting power / voting mana. We try to make the best use of our VP and avoid it sitting idle at 100% - should we do the same with the RC? Applying the same to RC would mean that we could/should create a claimed account every now and then. Sounds reasonable, but I'd have no idea what to do with the new accounts :)
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@abh12345 ·
$0.03
Indeed. :)

Yes I have no idea also but just because I can, I will be claiming.
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@davemccoy ·
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Thank you for getting us this information.  You are making it easier for many (including me) to understand what is happening and what might happen by extension in the future.  

I have a hunch that you will find 4 very deserving people and get them on a path to being good Steemians.  And then in a couple days, I bet you will find some more to do this with.  And then "Asher's Army" will be real, you will have tons MORE people that will have the highest degree of respect for you and what you stand for!

Great job Asher and cheers!
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@abh12345 ·
$0.06
Thanks Dave!

In comparison to the big claimers above, the likes of myself and Lyndsay won't have many, but at least we'll have some.
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@davemccoy · (edited)
cool... I also realized that I can claim some too in the friendsofgondor account if you or @fulltimegeek want them for a reason.  That account only upvotes and puts out 1 post a week, so those accounts can be claimed and given to either of you to help (if it makes sense).  Just let me know if so and I will be happy to give them to you guys.
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@headchange ·
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Ashers Army I like that real catchy. I am still thinking of handing out a couple of those Monster accounts at Christmas. Will be stalking these conversations as I try to figure out if some SP needs to be included. and how much.  
My whole point was to get them playing the game then transition over to other activities on the platform. 
My evil plot to lure my kids away from FB  ;)
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@davemccoy ·
I like "Asher's Army" too... He doesn't seem to though :P ... But he might not have a choice if he keeps carrying all these people on his shoulders!  And I like the idea of how you are going to "trick" your kids... yes its diabolical but genius as well!  So get 'em!

And I do think they will have no choice but to make this problem go away and one way or another they will have to either change the value for voting or increase the amount of RCs people at the bottom get.  10 or less comments will not make this place social! 

So have a wonderful day and now I have a new nickname for you, The Good Mom  :D  (because you use evil to manipulate your kids into doing what you want!!!)  lol
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@mightypanda ·
$0.03
I claimed 2 accounts in last few days. Now I have to build a UI interface with which anyone can create thr account and then I will host a giveaway to give free account for someone in need.
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@abh12345 ·
Nice, this sounds like a plan :)  I'm sure more than one interface will appear to perform this process securely.
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@freedomno1 · (edited)
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I kind of wish there was an accumulation pool of some sort, that way over time unused bandwidth would pool up and allow a user to claim an account instead of being unused and left over bandwidth. 

That would help community growth for those who have 500-2000 SP and pool their resources, who do not have enough SP delegated to make an account outright if they don't mind waiting a few days to pile up sufficient resource credits.

Then giving those accounts away to the community for free, would help a lot more with mass adoption.
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@abh12345 ·
I suspect the first part of what you are saying is already happening - accounts coming together to claim accounts.  To do this, their SP would be gone from their main account though, thus reducing their vote and other abilities to interact.
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@bengy ·
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Well... I guess I'm not claiming an account any time in the near future then! Pity, I was going to set up an account for my wife, but I'll probably just the normal way via blocktrades!

I hope you have the rights to abh1234 and abh 123456!
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@abh12345 ·
hehe :)

Well the claimed accounts do not need to be given a name until they are created. I don't think i'd go for those usernames though!

When the process to create is available on Steemconnect, I'll give it a whirl.  And when this is available, remind me via discord if you still need another account :)
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@bengy ·
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind if I haven't blown past 2500 SP by then!
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@holm ·
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I am a bit confused about all of this "account claiming". So we who has a lot of SP can claim accounts freely at the expense of our RC? 
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@abh12345 ·
Yes.  It seems it currently costs around 6,100,000,000,000 to claim an account - something like 3000 SP.

There are some links in other replies where you can check how many RCs you have.
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@holm ·
Yeah I noticed that, thanks! Seems insane some people have created over 1000 accounts though?! for what exactly? lol
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@mattockfs ·
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Just a thought: Wonder if it would currently be economical for smaller fish to lease SP for purpose of claiming accounts. Any thoughts?
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@abh12345 ·
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You'd need around 3k, and could claim 1 account every 4/5 days.  Im not sure if it would be economically viable, but I guess it depends how much, if anything, these claims are worth in the future.
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@mattockfs ·
Then I guess it isn't. Currently leasing 3k for 90 days from @blocktrades would set you back about 172 STEEM. If that 90 days allows you the creation of 20 accounts, that would make for 8.6 STEEM as cost per account for an account that before the HF would set you back 3 STEEM at most.
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@aggroed ·
$0.18
I claimed one because of this post.  Don't know if I'll bother getting more, but that was fun.
👍  ,
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@abh12345 ·
I'm glad :) A fun and painless process.

I would say it's worth you collecting some, perhaps to add to the steemmonsters 'pool', if/when it exists.
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@master-set ·
$0.47
Yep. I created a couple of account for my friens, but still can't understand a two separate parts - claiming VS creating
👍  , ,
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@crypto-econom1st ·
I suggest to sell them for $100 per account 😂

But seriously if anyone can do this for free then we will have only more inactive or bot accounts. Or are there better possibilities?
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@mattclarke ·
Nice. Thanks. I'll grab one here and there whenever I think of it. (Costs me almost 20% of my resource credits). Can't hurt, right? 
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@abh12345 ·
$0.18
Yeah you could claim a lot more with all your SP at home.  Can't hurt, I'll be collecting more I think too.
👍  
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@mattclarke ·
I started collecting on @frogcake, too.
Still not sure on how we'll use them, but no point having RCs scraping on the ceiling. 
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@joythewanderer ·
Interesting, I claimed one, what now? haha
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@abh12345 ·
$0.04
Now you can use a product which I wouldn't recommend, code it yourself, or do what I'm doing and wait for SteemConnect to update this page: https://steemconnect.com/accounts/create

:D
👍  ,
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@igster ·
Saving for later, thanks for this post!
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@abh12345 ·
$0.04
No worries, good luck!
👍  ,
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@igster ·
Just to be clear, now that I have claimed account, I can create it whenever I wish? I haven't really read about this as much as I should and any help is welcome.
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@spozone ·
OK I'll ask the question. How much steem or SBD is an account worth?  My daughter has an account t she hasn't used in months.  It has 1 steel and 0.1SP in it.  If she sold it how much would it be worth and can you even do such a thing?
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@abh12345 ·
Accounts are bought and sold between individuals at time.  I guess the price is negotiated and it depends on the name/rep/funds in the account.

I wouldn't expect much from a 'low' rep account that is empty.  Keep the keys and hope one day you have a message from someone :)
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@jlordc ·
According to Beempy - https://beempy.com/resource_costs

It now costs over 9708.005456901 G RC. So expensiveeeee! XD

![claim_account_costs.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcCg2RoQyrdVyNFpV3jxUHkYYHY66KmaPA64GwPSEMgGs/claim_account_costs.png)
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@themanwithnoname ·
I'd like to claim one as I have a cool idea for a name, but I'm a ways off on the RCs. 

It seems like a lot of the bidbots have been claiming accounts. Do you think that means they intend to sell accounts?
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@meesterboom ·
Oooo, fascinating, I did it too. No idea what to do with it but it's cool to know!
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@niallon11 ·
Tried to sneak one in there before the weekend but the price has gone a long way up from the 5.....Mana.
<br>
https://i.postimg.cc/wxyCCbhx/2018-10-10_1.png
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Not quite the 19.....Mana in your other post but still expensive.
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@abh12345 ·
I think I stated 9,500,000,000,000, and so it looks like another 1,8... has been added - rapid increase!
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@ocdb ·
re-abh12345-i-claimed-a-few-accounts-today-is-this-something-that-everyone-that-can-should-be-doing-20181011t100203217z
You got a 41.40% upvote from @ocdb courtesy of @abh12345!
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@ura-soul ·
I've got an interesting plan to put all these new accounts to use - onboarding the users that have been censored on Facebook recently...

https://steemit.com/freedom/@ura-soul/google-and-facebook-censor-millions-for-political-dissent-let-s-bring-these-folks-to-steem-will-you-help
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@nnnarvaez ·
claimed one to test with @delega i tried with mine initially but since sll my sp is delegated didn't work... now i am just wondering what to do with it...
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