An Open Letter to the Community - HF22.5 by steemitblog

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An Open Letter to the Community - HF22.5
<h1>An Open Letter to the Community</h1>

On February 22, 2020, Steem Witnesses launched Soft Fork 22.2, with the sole intent to freeze the original stakes owned by Steemit, Inc.

Originally, as the core development team behind the Steem blockchain and key contributor to the ecosystem, Steemit used their stake for continued development of the Steem blockchain, onboarding users, and not voting for witnesses. The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions. With that in mind, on February 13th, both TRON and Steemit planned to meet to discuss the future road map, with respect of the Steem community.  Unfortunately, the Witnesses’ decision created a need to reclaim the stake and vote in new witnesses to usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.

Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal. The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member, on any terms they want. They even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger. This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community. 

<h1>Commitment to the Community</h1>
- The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.
- Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications. 
- For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community while having an open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses. The goal is to protect the Steem blockchain from bad actors, add transparency, and receive community suggestions and advice.
- After the 4-6 weeks period, the Steemit team will give the governance back to the community when it’s back in order and mutual agreement.



<h1>Product Roadmap</h1>

The Steemit team had a very productive and exciting conversation with TRON on the future roadmap and we can’t wait to share this with everyone. The following features are what we will be focusing on:

- Maintain Steem blockchain running in parallel with TRON
- Launch Smart Media Tokens
- Launch Cross Chain Atomic Swaps
- Improve Overall Steemit.com User Experience And Onboard More Users

<h1>Smart Media Tokens (SMTs)</h1>

SMTs are on our public testnet. We have GitHub testing issues created that once completed will ensure confidence in the release.

Alongside the SMT release is the SMT Wizard, a simple front end for creating SMTs, and client libraries. Client library work is mostly done except for small changes being made to the protocol during testing and is awaiting testing.

<h1>Cross Chain Atomic Swaps (CCAS)</h1>

CCAS will use a combination of Hashed Timelocked Contracts (HTLC) and Header Only Verification (HOV) to seamlessly move tokens (STEEM, TRC-20s, and SMTs) between TRON and Steem.

<h1>Steemit.com User Experience Improvements</h1>

Steemit.com is an opportunity to onboard massive numbers of users into our ecosystem through a social network / viral media model, now with TRON’s ecosystem and resources, this goal is more achievable than ever.

We are on target for feature parity with reddit.com. With communities core launched, we are very close to this goal. The remaining tasks are around onboarding, including an invite system for new accounts, and optimizing content discovery.

Specifically, our primary goal is to emphasize the organic and sustainable models for growth that Steemit.com enables. We plan on doing this by:

- Lowering the barriers to entry by streamlining the signup and first-use experience on steemit.com and on the Steem blockchain.
- Contributing to the quality and authenticity of the user base by implementing an invite / referral signup system.
- Enhancing the quality of user experience on Steemit.com by removing ads, optimizing the front page, making the rewards system easy to use through browser extensions, and integrating the wallet with the main site.
Enhancing the mobile experience. 

<h1>More Rewards to Witnesses </h1>

Community is the core to the Steem ecosystem, and Witnesses should earn rewards accordingly given how important their roles are. We will come up with a plan to reward Witnesses privileges in Steemit like staking rewards. 

<h1>More Users</h1>

TRON is known for its thriving ecosystem, and now Steemit has access to TRON’s active 15 million user community, a distribution network of over 600 million DAU, meanwhile leveraging TRON’s powerful marketing resources as well as some top industry leaders.

<h1>More Content</h1>

A social network without content won’t go far. Steemit.com has a perfect foundation and we will reward more to the content creators and/or curators to feed the users. 

<h1>More Development</h1>

More developer support will be provided. Not only do we have access to more engineer support, but also we can run more hackathons and devote more capital to support the development of community projects. 

<h1>More Liquidity </h1>

We’ll be learning a lot from TRON’s team on how to build a healthy exchange relationship and we’ll be having more conversations with exchanges to learn the best way to get listed and have more trading pairs. 

<h1>A Brighter Future</h1>

Steemit and the Steem community is one of a kind within the current blockchain landscape. It had its own history, but now with TRON’s resources and ecosystem behind it, it’s time to course correct and build a healthier and thriving ecosystem around this dynamic community. 

This will be nothing but an exciting future. 

_The Steemit Team_
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@bobinson ·
Where can we see the code for HF22.5 ?
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@netuoso ·
You can't. Not only is it centralized it is closed source and owned by the Chinese government
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@aagabriel ·
YEP! 
![antimalware.news-Trojan-horse.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRAWJRsxJEb8mZoUTDnqAkhBdpbrdxCEDjn8fFa46NXLu/antimalware.news-Trojan-horse.jpg)
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@bala41288 ·
I guess the code is not open anymore as the chain is not decentralized anymore. :)
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@jedigeiss · (edited)
Full support! Where is the code
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@berniesanders ·
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@joanstewart ·
Noticed only the "new" witnesses have thee 22.5 code, all at the top, cuddly cozy little spot. 

Devil is always in the details....
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@ben ·
Steem Soft Fork 0.22.5 is available now on github: https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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@v4vapid ·
Thanks for killing Steem @ben, great job!
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@berniesanders ·
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@stef1 ·
Hi @ben, I noticed that you have not been active for last 8 months but still have your steem power without any use. Therefore I wanted to approach you and ask if you would delegate your SP to our project @art-venture, we have created it in August 2017 to support undervalued artists. There are still many active Artists around and it would be good to be able to reward them appropriately for their works and activity. 

We are interested in future of strong Steem that is why we need resources behind to build up stronger community and motivate people. Please look at this magazine that we produce every second day and also you can look at @stef1 account to see what we are doing. 

The important thing is we have never done Power Down, all the rewards are going to Power Up.

I thank you in advance,

https://steemit.com/hive-185836/@art-venture/art-venture-magazine-no-291
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@stoodkev ·
You re the only bad actor here, you've just centralized a blockchain, using exchanges to make a hostile takeover.
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@ciska ·
How is this different from what they did to steemit? Freezing accounts who should never been frozen in the first place.
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@jacobpeacock ·
There was a verbal contract in place that the ninja-mined stake would not be used to vote in witnesses with. Are you just a Justin Sun troll or are you really absolutely clueless about all the nuances involved?

Quit spreading lies, misinformation and disinformation in these comments!
I just read every one of them from newest to oldest (all 200 and something when I started) on this post and that is your consistent theme.
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@geekgirl · (edited)
$1.04
YOU HAVE MADE A BIG MISTAKE!!!

STOP IMMEDIATELY JUSTIN!!!

Do you really think you can take over this chain??? Don’t be stupid!!!

OMG!!!

Now we will wipe out your stakes for sure!!!
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
I understand your shock, I'm surprised as well, but the plan you've just stated won't help in anything but further escalating the conflict.
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@geekgirl ·
I didn’t state any plan. I am not a plan stater or executer. Just super disappointed.
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@lordbutterfly ·
Further escalating what??? He already took over the chain. Its like i beat you with a bat and someone comes in and tell you: "Hey dont be mad, youll further escalate the situation". 
Its already escalated dumbass
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@flaws ·
Thanks for your quick explanation, I was just packing up my stuff.  Let's hope things go well from now on. :)
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@gerber · (edited)
you just basically did the same thing... dpos in action :) now we have full decentralization :D so much fun :)
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@anomadsoul ·
$45.79
So basically you hostile takeover Steem's governance claiming it's because you're striving for decentralization, and yet you do it by centralizing governance by voting the top 20 witnesses with one super powered up account. 

But screw the 4 years and thousands of witness votes from the community that's been here every day for years, right?
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@lordbutterfly · (edited)
$11.21
And the fucking exchanges used customer funds! Its beyond unethical. 
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@ash ·
$0.06
you know the old saying... not your keys not your coins.
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
Not long ago I found this brillant operation in steem docs: https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights - the community should have required any exchange to do precisely that on their technical accounts, so such things cannot happen.. too bad I learned about that op a week ago and I myself didn't consider the exchanges when SF was being prepared :|
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@friendlystranger ·
Buy more STEEM and vote for your witness. It's really that simple! STEEM was DPOS from the beginning.
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@chekohler ·
I'm kind of happy they showed their hand and that the soft fork happened. We had till the town hall to discuss all of this and they pulled a fast one. There's not going to be discussions, just dictating. 
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@jacobpeacock · (edited)
I initially thought that the supposed 'town hall' was just a tactic to delay the valid witnesses while they (Steemit Inc.) re-grouped and implemented a takeover. Sadly I was correct.

Edited for clarity.
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@berniesanders ·
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@abbenay ·
Is time to grow in other decentralized social networks such as creary.net. Witnesses! Here is a tutorial to create a node in this community. The consensus it is 25 witness nodes. tutorial  https://creaproject.io/set-crea-witness-node/
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@moeknows ·
$0.02
I am a bit of a layperson here, but doesn't this action kind of justify the soft fork? It seems like better communication should have taken place.
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@stoodkev ·
$0.06
It does, they basically just centralized Steem, using funds on exchanges that probably don t even belong to them. But hey, what we did was criminal.
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@lordbutterfly ·
Of course the funds dont belong to them. 
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@ragnarokdel ·
This isnt mutually exclusive, Binance can be criminals as well as the steem witnesses. But I suspect the TOS of Binance probably make them proxies to your steem (or other cryptos) otherwise you could literally call autorities.
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@joythewanderer ·
It's sad that exchanges agree to do that, time to boycott those exchanges I guess, centralised exchanges are now the big player on crypto world, but it doesn't mean it will forever be the case lol.
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@netuoso ·
$0.17
This is literally the threat we were trying to help avoid. We knew it would happen because of Suns previous actions on Tron. Welcome to Tron 2.0
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@moeknows ·
Well, again speaking as a layperson, it seems that the fears were Justified.
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@novacadian ·
>This is literally the threat we were trying to help avoid. 

\<sarcasm>That worked out well.\</sarcasm>
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@notconvinced ·
No the softfork is the same difference as this. The Softfork highlighted Steems flaw and Justin doubled down to prove its been Centralized all along.
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@moeknows ·
Good point
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@apsu ·
Well I have to say, you guys are fucking assholes. Steemit inc. has got their SP in an unjust way and now you're ruining the entire blockchain.

Fuck you.

Steem is an centralized blockchain controlled by small minded shitheads. You are just a cancer on Steem and you're ruining everything we've hold dear.
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@ash ·
$1.45
as expected...
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@fredrikaa ·
$3.17
If it has been your intent all along to use the Steemit stake for further Steem blockchain and community development  according to what has been promised to the investors and users who have stayed here for 4 years, then why not just commit to it in a trustless way?

This was the absolute worst way to build trust with the community going forward. A sad day for decentralization.
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@enginewitty ·
Who cast the first stone?
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@fredrikaa ·
Steemit.
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@apsu ·
Steemit did.
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@lordbutterfly ·
Are you stupid or just pretending to be?
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@jedigeiss ·
$0.16
Why do we need to cast stones anyway ? Out of fear ? Out of whatever ? Damn we are not learning at all
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@ocupation ·
Look at this @ben doing some downvoting, piece of shit
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@roelandp ·
$83.09
Do you understand this is exactly what we wanted to prevent? 

With this move you: 
- literally killed Steem. 
- used Customer Funds, called your "friends" at exchanges. And without customer knowing, used funds residing on exchanges, to power up and vote. 
- centralised the Steem chain. 

Preventing this is the reason why softfork 22.2 was implemented in the first place. But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges. We discussed it but we could not believe crypto-world would be so stupid. Apparently exchanges pick a side. 

Please understand you have killed a wonderful community of four years. Real people. From all over the world. Not bots or gambling apps. 

Maybe your chain will continue, but it will be an empty shell. Happy pumping. 
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@mamanovasim ·
justin sun loves bots and gambling dapps so he can't understand our feeling
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@berniesanders ·
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@anthonyadavisii ·
*What if Justin is a bot masquerading as a human?*

Dun dun dunmnnn

<sub>Brought to you by the CCP Android department. No relation to the mobile operating system.</sub>
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@joythewanderer ·
$0.03
> But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges. 

because it's not "officially" inc accounts lol
softfork was soft af
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@roelandp ·
no exactly. 

little could one know exchanges just pick sides. 
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@ragnarokdel · (edited)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

You did this to Steem. It's exactly an accurate description but it fits well enough.
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@wikitextbot ·
<b>Streisand effect</b>
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@scooter77 ·
$0.10
And changing the powerdown to 24 hours for what reason? That doesn't make sense and obviously won't be a community decision! Centralization at it's best!
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
Why? Of course to un-power all what's recyclable, and probably to somewhat defend against any attempt to enforce things like https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights with its 30 day period, but of course that one is dead anyways, as it can be issued ONLY by the owner of given account (owner decides to do a self-locking). It's dead because no malicious user will ever decide to self-lock the voting rights, and I don't expect steemit or justin or exchanges to do that, especially now. Considering that the steem API probably doesn't have any "lock that bad guy" ops (that could be easily misused), then changing the power-down period now can only mean one thing: INCOMING RAPID FUND DRAIN.
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@enforcer48 ·
$4.86
So his exchange buddies can power down all the customers' funds they powered up to save STINC stake.
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@berniesanders ·
$0.04
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@sneak ·
$0.06
> And changing the powerdown to 24 hours for what reason?

After centralizing the chain so totally and all of the dapps shutting down in protest, it would otherwise take *weeks* for every single user to rush to the exits as fast as possible and the price of STEEM to tank to zero.  This way, the dumping can commence the day after they unilaterally change monetary/issuance policy of their centrally-managed, centrally-issued, unregistered publicly traded security.
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@chromiumone ·
Changing the power down is being done so the exchanges that unethically, if not illegally powered up their clients Steem and voted with it can power it down quick and replace their clients Steem before SHTF.
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@amico ·
He proves what he is: a pirate?
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@tuck-fheman ·
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@geekgirl ·
lol now they are downvoting!! Stupid!!
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@tarazkp ·
$0.33
seriously, they used the stake to downvote comments....
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@scooter77 ·
@ben is a steem whale. Early Adopter. Not sure how he is aligned to Steemit....
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@roundbeargames ·
sunkimjong and his comrades
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@chekohler ·
I wonder how many of that so called 15 mil users on Tron are bots, proxy and bag holders who just go with the flow. Does anyone in their community even contest things? We might not be the most pleasant bunch but at least we're not just yes men for everything
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@enforcer48 ·
They don't exist.

There's exactly one person from Tron that's commenting here and it's @will-richards.
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
Simple: all of them.
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@kiwisteem ·
>but at least we're not just yes men for everything

haha that is funny
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@rosepac ·
You answer yourself ... It is not exactly Steemit, the most crowded platform of being human.
 Nor is it the platform that most helps human beings to enter and participate.

In fact. To all the people to whom I have invited Steemit, they have escaped.

After verifying the content they found here. For them it was more like a conversation between aliens. That a conversation between human beings.

What makes it impossible to retain users... Tron will be crap. Personally, I don't know him.

But Steemit, I know him; and for a new user or person who is not a blockchains fan. I can assure you that Steemit is absolute bullshit. Equally.

And I have already checked with many people.. Trust me.

Both need the ideal change. At least Steemit. That is the platform that I know.
 It must become a simpler, natural and realistic platform.

It is required not to talk so much about Steem, Steemit or blockchain applications, to let in other more normal problems for society in general. Other themes that in Steemit in many cases are prohibited or very badly received.

And facilitate understanding and use at the slightest expression..
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
I think all exchanges should: https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights before being allowed to operate on the chain, or before people trust their funds to them. But of course, it's now a far too late to shout about it :|
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@fervi · (edited)
But you fucked up

I'm sorry to say this, but you've been neglecting yourself for years, leading to Steem's death. That wasn't done by Justin Sun, but by Witnesses (and many whales).
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@berniesanders ·
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@nationalpark ·
$0.09
When Steem Inc held the most coins and Freedom could decide who can go to top 20, we already knew steem chain is centralized. 

For the exchange, if the users can withdraw the coins as will, then there is no problem for the exchange to use the coins. If the exchange prevents users to withdraw, then it's another story.

When firepower the spammer retaliated me just because I reveal the truth and cleaners refused to help, none of your witnesses willing to help. When the whales put the upvotes for sale and the front page is filled with garbage, none of you witnesses care. Now you witnesses realized that you may not be able to collect money without doing anything, you guys acted super fast. Yes, I agree some of the top witnesses have contributions to Steem, but what you did is far less than what you paid for.

Let me tell you, the spirit of Steem had already dead long time ago.
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@steemitadventure ·
They do and don’t care....this isn’t a normal company.
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@kiwisteem ·
I see nothing bad going on @roelandp ?

I think the funds used were the funds sitting in their Steemit accounts ! I found two of their account a few weeks ago and made an inquiry as to what they were. 

As for Centralization! wow the decisions have been centralized for longer than I have been around which is more than three years. The berniesanders and markymark grouping of accounts has been running this place into the ground for years lol !  Yea a few of you were accumulating a lot of Steem but that is not will support a higher prices. More people holding and using Steem will increase the price! But our centralized leadership has been driving people off the platform just as fast as they can! And introducing pathetic plans like the EIP which was designed to drive more users away! 

>Preventing this is the reason why softfork 22.2 was implemented in the first place.

looks like the hostile actions taken by the centralized authority led by bernie and marky actually caused it to me!
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@transcript-junky ·
" But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges." I rebutt that this question is not accurately worded.  Perhaps something more along the lines of "How could we not have thought about all the multitudinous "tricky" ways required for dealing with a Chinese person in business relations - based  on ASSUMPTIONS we make as "non-Chinese" as to what is "fair play", versus wat is "beyond the bounds" of fair play?"

I am actually finding this all very entertaining, in a twisted way, because it vindicated my original gut feeling about this as soon as I heard the news of the "partnership". Aside from all of the "scammy" top dApps on the Tron blockchain (which is PROOF that this dude is not exactly the must trustworthy/straight-forward guy in blockchain) I just find it humerous that as China is literally on lockdown right now we're seeing this sort of thing play out in the microcosm. The bottom line is that, Chinese people "do business" in a totally different way. And so when you ENGAGE them in business dealings you're simply going to be "tacitly agreeing" to dealing with their "tactics". I have not doubt in my mind that Justin Sun BELIEVE that what he is doing is "the best option at this time". And it may ultimately lead to "progress" of some sort. But everyone is going to have to ACCEPT, going forward, that by engaging with Steemit we are all now "tacitly agreeing" to this kind of managemet behavior. As for me, I initiated the 13-week "power down" of all of my ~ 2,600 Steem, with the understanding that the "13 weeks" will be a "trial period" for Justin Sun to prove to me that it is BETTER for me to keep my Steem staked in Steeit versus converting [that] Steem to DEC and putting it all into the @splinterlands game, whose admins' ethics and  business practices I have MUCH more confidence in, because they have EARNED that confidence through transparency and fairness over time. Steemit is just ONE dapp. There ARE - and WILL BE others. I find this situation to be more ENLIGHTENING than anything else at this time. Everyone needs to make their own choice. I am still willing to give Justin Sun the next 12 weeks to "show me what he's got". But I'm also wise enough to do my due diligence. Either way, I think things will work out in the grand scheme...
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@sunlover ·
Just here to read the comments 🍿 nomnomnom
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@scooter77 · (edited)
$0.07
RIP Steem - A wonderful community ruined by the greedy actions of a few. I can't believe that you used customer funds sitting on exchanges to make this happen. Disgraceful.

Fork out their stake. Now to decide what shall we call the new Fork of Steem?
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@holoz0r ·
Steem-Safu? 
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@mys ·
$9.08
It is interesting that nobody complain when witnesses did same thing 2 weeks ago :D
Comments fiesta!
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@holoz0r ·
A few people did.
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@apsu ·
Witnesses were going to protect the blockchain from ninja-mined stake and centralization of the blockchain.

Now it's centralized power.

Don't go full retard.
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@rafalski ·
Why they didnt protect before? Because Ned told them he will not use it? It is laugh
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@ciska ·
YES, controlled by the second largest name in the whole crypto industry. And you just unleashed the beast. We should be proud of ourselves.
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@fervi ·
> Witnesses were going to protect the blockchain from ninja-mined stake and centralization of the blockchain.

Lol. After all, a lot of whales are whales because they were involved in ninja mining. You didn't block their accounts, so...?
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@ash ·
witnesses started this by blocking accounts. This is action-reaction, and they should've seen this coming. 

Anyways, a hardfork in inevitable IMO, could've gone much smoother without the 222 drama though
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@ciska ·
100% behind your statement. Justin/Steemit/Tron, none of them started this. I call it karma
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@bil.prag ·
but if he really had no intention to use that stake to vote for witnesses then there was no problem with that. He could wait till the meeting, make an agreement, where it would say he will not us it for voting witnesses... But he wanted to do this, he does not like to not be in charge...
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@lordbutterfly ·
$0.57
This is in no way similar. A witness consensus voted by community stake is a decentralized action. 
Exchanges taking customer funds to do a hostile takeover and completely centralizing the chain is an abomination of crypto. 

Steem, at this moment is 100% centralized. 
There is no point in it being a blockchain. 
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@mys ·
Customer funds?
Exchanges bought a lot of STEEMs 2 days ago causing +25% price pump...
They literally bought blockchain.
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@jedigeiss · (edited)
$0.17
Community stake ? You needed what ?blocktrades and or freedom vote to be in top 20 ? Is that the community consensus ? 
I seriously don't know if that's the case
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@jedigeiss ·
$0.33
I di mys because it was like taking an aggressive stance and blowing the first strike. Fear is never a good advisor and the results are obvious. The other has to strike back if not intentionally than just in order not to lose his face. 
Now please could we just go back to the table and try to deescalate before everything gets totally out of hand ?
Yours Jan
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@shadowspub ·
$0.03
Now that's an optimist when you don't think things are totally out of hand now. 

Too bad Justin didn't have the courage to sign the post instead of using the Steemit Inc team as cannon fodder. Cowardly to say the least.
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@carapthian ·
Exactly de-escalation is what we need. Things usually go south when people get emotional and let emotions rule over common sense. The emotional response has been impressive and has been resulting in an impressive escalation
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@valued-customer ·
What would be the point of negotiations?  @justinsunsteemit has all the power.  What can you offer him?  Who would take his word?

Not me.  Who will use those exchanges?  Not me.

All the negotiations are done.

Steem is over.
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@geekgirl · (edited)
$22.21
Really? You like dictatorship?

How is that a same thing when you had consensus witnesses with an intention of preserving Steem and now one centralized entity trying to force things?

P.S. They downvoted most opposing comments here.
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@mys ·
$0.07
It is not what I like, just how I see the situation.
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@ciska ·
Because they are teaching people a lesson in being not hostile. Should have not started this war in the first place. The witnesses didn't preserve steemit. They were on the verge of killing it.
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@mindtrap · (edited)
Wtf? Ben’s account who has been inactive since...forever, now upvotes those comments? Controlled by Justin? Wtf is going on?

Who knows...maybe @mottler jumps in too...or even @freedom if he pulls back the delegations...

Disgusting
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@tarazkp ·
$0.50
ben...

ben|ned
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@geekgirl ·
looks like it belongs to steemit.
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@enforcer48 ·
The ownership was updated several hours ago if you check Steemd.
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@freebornangel ·
One of many sock puppets.
Ned said he would hide his stake and seems to suffer from little man's disease enough to burn us all down with it.
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@enginewitty ·
Some of us [did](https://steempeak.com/thealliance/@enginewitty/sunfork-22-2-weighing-in-on-the-justin-sun-soft-fork).
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@fredrikaa ·
where were you? There were tonnes of heated debates after the soft fork.
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@sorin.lite ·
Spot on!
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@ausbitbank ·
$4.97
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@holoz0r ·
Deep breaths, man, deep breaths. 
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@penderis ·
$0.07
Find a new space I have marked this as my fave comment so far.
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@chekohler ·
Joins in quiet contemplation 
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@theadmiral0 ·
Mutual
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@howo ·
hahahaha
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@sneak ·
Everybody's allowed to vote their stake.  Always has been.
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@valued-customer ·
Ah, the @sneak comes out of the woodwork.  You must sense your time is come.  That pesky @ned and the decentralization he favored has finally been eliminated.  Now is your hour.

Come forth, and strike!

>"Everybody's allowed to vote their stake. Always has been."

No.  that's a lie.  After the witnesses suspended the founder's stake from voting, until the exchanges fraudulently reinstated it, that stake was not allowed to vote witnesses.
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@phusionphil ·
You told me I was asking questions out of place, you're right, no one had a chance to react to this.

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@ammonite · (edited)
That escalated quickly!
> . The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions.

can you be more specific?
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@chekohler ·
aka turn steemit into a gambling app. Lol its all lip service. Couldn't even wait for the town hall. No user has a say on this chain as of now
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@ammonite ·
Damn it. What a start to the week!
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@lordbutterfly · (edited)
You fucking used exchanges to take over the chain!! ARE YOU RETARDED? That has to be illegal somehow!

You commie pieces of shit. 
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@ciska ·
You are the retard. I can see it from the way you behave and talk. Makes zero sense and stop whining like a baby because you got slapped for supporting this violent behavior . Your witnesses made you believe what they want They only protected their monthly stake
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@holoz0r ·
Are funds safu? 
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@ausbitbank ·
$0.11
I would withdraw anything you have from exchanges (sell to btc first, this wont end well). They cannot possibly cover withdrawals because they powered up a heap of customer funds illegally to do this.
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@holoz0r ·
$0.37
I'd be interested to see how much liquid steem is left on exchange accounts or cold storage at this stage. 

Right now, I really fucking regret my car's licence plates. 
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@elliotjgardner ·
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@jacekw ·
$27.68
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@haikubot ·
$0.04
<em>Good luck! You just lost 
Whole community, the most 
Valuable thing here. 
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@phusionphil ·
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@mamanovasim ·
sad to see this.. you are ruining my steem blockchain
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@holoz0r ·
> More Rewards to Witnesses
Community is the core to the Steem ecosystem, and Witnesses should earn rewards accordingly given how important their roles are. We will come up with a plan to reward Witnesses privileges in Steemit like staking rewards.

But a platform like this is nothing without content. Do you surely believe that wintesses need to be rewarded more heavilly? Do people use reddit, instagram, and facebook to see drama about reddit, instagram and facebook? 

No, they go there to follow and discuss things that they are interested in. 

We need less content about Steem and more rewards for dedicated content creators and people who grow communities. 
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@tarazkp ·
$0.29
The witnesses are theirs... they don't give AF
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@holoz0r ·
$0.02
Popcorn sales through the roof right now, I'm sure! 
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@adetorrent ·
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@atma.love ·
Where can we regroup to discuss tactics? Not here on 22.5. Can we somehow connect to 22.2 which presumably previous witnesses are still running?
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@emrebeyler · (edited)
$2.33
It's a strategy to say that "witness rewards will be boosted" because in the end they need witnesses supporting this hostile takeover. Think it is like a bribe.
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@holoz0r ·
While at the end of the day, witnesses are needed to maintain the infrastructure - what is the point of infrastructure or the blockchain at all if creators aren't rewarded in an equitable manner? 

As I stated - people don't come to steem to see the marvels of its underlying technology, they come for the ability to etch their statements into an immutable ledger, get a reward in exchange for that, or to share their creations with the world. 
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@tarazkp ·
$0.71
It is a bribe. But the witnesses will be the exchanges and Tron BPs or whatever they are called.

"Community" witnesses.
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@whatsthatcryptom ·
They HAVE witnesses appointed at the moment. Who do you think they have to talk to?
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@berniesanders ·
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@galenkp ·
$0.41
Witness's = Tron puppets on strings.
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@mindtrap ·
They didn’t even set @null or something as beneficiary....

Hahaha...pathetic
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@berniesanders ·
$1.14
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@moeknows ·
I think it's kind of telling that one of the first things they want to do after gaining the top 20 witness accounts is to give more rewards to the witnesses.
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@holoz0r ·
It'd have to be some pretty significant bribe to make it worth their while. 

This is a bit of counter ransom, to the initial ransom that was 0.22.2 Soft Fork. 
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@enginewitty ·
Community indeed!
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@berniesanders ·
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@aagabriel ·
Scummunity
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@crypto.piotr ·
$0.07
Hi @holoz0r

> But a platform like this is nothing without content. 

Very true. Correct me if I'm wrong - but did current witnesses supported content creators? Most of them unfortunatelly didn't. 

Perhaps new witnesses will.

> Do you surely believe that wintesses need to be rewarded more heavilly?

I rather see witnessed being rewarded instead of seeing steem being dumped on the market, the way STINC has been doing for very long. 

> We need less content about Steem and more rewards for dedicated content creators and people who grow communities.

YOu nailed it.

Yours, Piotr
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@holoz0r ·
$0.13
Thank you. I've made this opinion known for quite some time, and even tried to get a witness node up and running myself at one point. 

I respect the work that is done by curie, ocd, csquared, and other such community accounts and projects, and support them with my witness votes. 

Witnesses were more than sustainable, and many do delegate to curation projects, and competitions which promoted people to bring new content to steem, but these rewards were not ... as philanthropic as say, patrons in the traditional art world. 
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@rafalski · (edited)
> Perhaps new witnesses will.

there are no new witnesse, these 20 accounts are SUN the dictator
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@enginewitty ·
In re:

- A very select few were on trails and if you bugged a few enough times, they would vote your post, but very very very rarely did you get a comment out of them.
- I think the current rewards are a little skewed, top 20's make a killin while backups not so much. More of a linear curve would be better.
- Exactly.
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@berniesanders ·
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@cadawg ·
What new witnesses? They're all justin sun
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@ciska ·
Finally someone with reason. Give to people who build bridges instead of walls (softforkwink)
I was happy someone like Justin bought into this project. And we gave him a warm welcome. It shameful and I hope order will be restored quickly! We could have reached out to them, request a meeting, open dialog, find balance. No, @justinsunsteemit MIGHT be hostile, let's destroy ourselves and block him out. Let's start a war. Unbelievable
@steemitblog, If you need a witness who stands behind you and is passionate about making this place awesome, sustainable and profitable. I am here for you.
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@holoz0r ·
I tried to get a node up and running once upon a time. It was a difficult journey I gave up on as my personal funds wouldn't support it on an ongoing matter. I also wanted to own the physical hardware, not rent it. :) 

We shall see what the next few days bring. 
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@aagabriel · (edited)
$0.05
>We could have reached out to them, request a meeting, open dialog, find balance. No, @justinsunsteemit MIGHT be hostile, let's destroy ourselves and block him out. Let's start a war. Unbelievable
@steemitblog, If you need a witness who stands behind you and is passionate about making this place awesome, sustainable and profitable. I am here for you.

Bootlicker. 

You just want to protect your own "investment" without realizing what is actually at stake. Freedom of speech and immutability is what made the ChiCom Knight Steemplar Justin Sun come running to take this over... 

beg for scraps, slave. It's all you will ever get.


Justin Sun's interest in tech mergers and acquisitions has **NEVER** been beneficial for both parties, only one! And you know why? Because the ChiCom party is the ONLY Party. 

One party to rule them all. Your life for the Party. Aint no party like a coronavirus party.
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@berniesanders ·
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@ocupation ·
$0.04
Yeah, you seem like a good choice to secure the blockchain. Lol
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@enginewitty ·
$0.02
You know what would be really funny? If they froze all those witnesses that froze them, just you know, temporarily.
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@jaki01 ·
I hope <em>both</em> sides find a way to deescalate the situation ...
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@berniesanders ·
$1.09
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@chronocrypto ·
That would sure be hilarious.
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@geekgirl ·
Justin has shown he doesn’t care about decentralization or blockchain at all. Way to throw his reputation to garbage in this space. Nobody will take him seriously again. 

Give me my Steem back. Hard fork already!
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@holoz0r ·
A lot of witness nodes are <em>physically</em> centralised in European data centres. They're spread out, sure - but Steem was never as decentralised as other cryptocurrency projects are. 
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@mobbs ·
$0.14
He's from China, under the wing of Jack Ma, two of the most centralised entities on the planet. Not *that* surprising
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@nationalpark · (edited)
If you know @freedom or @pumpkin, you would know Steem is not decentralized long time ago. That account was able to decide whether a witness can be top 20
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@berniesanders ·
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@mobbs ·
You say that like anyone in power is reading comments lolz
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@holoz0r ·
I'm reading the replies to this - and its something I'm super passionate about, and always have been! 
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@berniesanders ·
$15.53
Everything that has been done that past 4 years here was just wiped out by a fucking communist piece of shit.  Congrats @ned and @justinsunsteemit, you just made Steem 100% worthless.  

Fucking halfwits.
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@whatsthatcryptom · (edited)
@berniesanders Downvoted because you self voted and think your response is valuable in any way but it actually isn't.
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@geekgirl ·
He might have destroyed Tron by this action too.  You were right all along. These scammers like JustinSun are sneaky.
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@vampire-steem ·
Steemit finally went to hell? How terrible.
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@daan ·
$0.12
Fucking hell, never thought I'd actually say this, but you seem to have been right all along.
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@ssjsasha ·
$0.19
It didn’t take long for your optimism to get wiped out.
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@berniesanders ·
$1.04
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@dalz ·
The 30 witnesses voting rule.
That is who to blame!

Lesson learned the hard way.
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@aljif7 ·
It looks like the ambience in steemit will be worse.
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@drakos ·
He wants to reward HIS witnesses.
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@ura-soul ·
$0.06
My thoughts on all of this are here - Anarchy vs. Empire. ;)
https://steempeak.com/witness/@ura-soul/ura-soul-witness-update-anarchy-vs-empire-tron-replaces-top-witnesses-and-takes-over-the-steem-blockchain
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@shanghaipreneur ·
@holoz0r 100% - I can't stand that the biggest payouts on Steem are all STEEM-related. I mean - give me a fucking break, guys - stop staring at your own navel. That's no way to onboard new users.
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@holoz0r ·
Thank you, glad to see that others agree. :)
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@shanghaipreneur ·
@holoz0r 100% - I can't stand that the biggest payouts on Steem are all STEEM-related. I mean - give me a fucking break, guys - stop staring at your own navel. That's no way to onboard new users.
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@ladybug146 · (edited)
$0.02
Bye bye decentralization hello hostile takeover just like much of the community suspected eh! Fucking sellout douche canoe.
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@maiyude ·
$0.04
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@raycoms ·
$1.02
Well, now you did exactly what the community feared you would do and what was the reason for this softfork all along. 
You have just proven all of them right.
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@roundbeargames ·
$21.47
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welcome to steem yall
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@chekohler ·
$0.02
What's next? All steemians to be quarantined? 
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@enforcer48 ·
Forcibly removed with drive-bys.
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@gadrian ·
$0.02
well done. we really needed an escalation of the mess and if you talk about an action that could be "deemed illegal and criminal", then what's yours like?
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@enginewitty · (edited)
**MALICIOUSLY STRUCTURED**! Fully agree. They basically were trying to hold the stake hostage so they could do what they wanted with it. I said burn it all and they told me to fuck off. Regardless if it was ninja mined and 'promised' or not. I understand why they did, but did not agree with it. I am curious though, where is 22.4? Looks like you pissed off a lot of people. To be expected. There are some majorly valid points down there, especially concerning the community aspect of it and the sheer numbers of supporters many have. Those numbers (albeit some long since inactive accounts - and I imagine some are even from themselves) represent what Steem really is. The community. As long as you all don't do anything too drastic and have the blockchain's best interests at it's core, that community will remain. But the blockchain without the community is - *nothing*.
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@stoodkev · (edited)
$1.34
wow, good job Justin, now you upvote the 3 posts that agree with you and downvote the 50 that call you for what you are, you really have no limits to how you ll abuse of your power. Congratulations for killing our chain.


![image.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbQs4PR9YvvkWAvu57bxTCGHNwHnaXmKY4Bcx6DXuuPuA/image.png)
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@enginewitty · (edited)
Actually, this @ben account was created during the initial mining of Steem when it launched, which means, this is an old account, nothing to do with @justinsunsteemit. So uh, I would say somebody might be interested to see where Steem goes.
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@firstamendment · (edited)
The more @Ben votes the less influence he will have.  Keep pissing him off.
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@valued-customer ·
>"Congratulations for killing <strike>our</strike> *your* chain."

It was never really ours.  It was @neds.  He just let us pretend it was ours.
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@snook ·
$0.02
>But the blockchain without the community is - nothing.

This! This right here
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@therealwolf · (edited)
$0.03
How about 

> the blockchain without projects is nothing

Steem only survived & brought in new users, because people built other projects on top of it (SteemMonsters, DTube, Dlive, etc.) I guess Justin truly thinks those are worthless, because many Witnesses built apps & projects themselves, Witnesses who he seems to consider malicious.
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@therealwolf ·
$4.52
The SF was structured to protect the decentralised governance. Nobody (at least the far majority of Witnesses) wanted to go anywhere near forking off their stake, we simply wanted to have a place to talk, without having the chain overtaken (which happened now).

And the fact that you call the SF malicious, while **you** were in favor of burning it? Are you stupid? I told you already that burning it off is far too extreme, but you're calling the SF malicious? Again, are you stupid?

The SF was built on the promises (not to use the stake for voting & governance) by the previous owners of Steemit Inc. Nothing more, nothing less.

Since Justin is now the steerer of the ship, he made his move. Centralising the chain to bring change. I don't want to be the person who judges whether it's wrong or right, but one thing is for sure: @ned has always been full of shit and for the last 2+ years, he's been a useless idiot. He should have known that selling it to Tron, will result in this outcome. So either he's stupid/naive, or he never cared about decentralisation.
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@enginewitty · (edited)
In favor of burning it *after the fact*. That way nobody could keep abusing it. I would have never voted to do this, never upgraded to 22.2. I get ***why*** you all did it. Who was benefitting from the SPS? Same people. Look, I don't agree with hijacking anything. And now we're all gonna pay the price for it. I don't blame them, I blame other people that were impatient and jumped the gun before there was any kind of actual talk aside from a marketing commercial. And yes, <b>I'M AS STUPID AS THEY GET.</b>
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@snook · (edited)
$0.02
I think Ned knew just what he was doing by selling to Tron. He knew how you would act. 

Sun would have known to call steemit, steemit and not steemy at the AMA.

think about this from the perspective of an angry person with a toy everyone wants that you own but no one likes you.
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@stevescoins ·
ned got HIS money
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@valued-customer ·
You malign and mischaracterize @ned, who held the power to do this in his hands for years and *never did it*.  But, given your propensity to deflect and divert attention to the motes in the eyes of others in order to conceal the log in your own, I am not surprised.

Bid botter.
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@lucylin ·
$0.04
>They basically were trying to hold the stake hostage so they could do what they wanted with it.


At least it showed the extreme level of naivety that the 'collective' witnesses possess.

Not being one to say 'I told you so...'
but....lmao.
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@enginewitty ·
I feel you. Was a 'pretty wise move' thinking they could actually get away with it. 
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@stevescoins · (edited)
let me get your opinion on this:

should they have burned all the ***Neon Green*** stake immediately?
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@stevescoins ·
> I said burn it all and they told me to fuck off. 

this

it wouldnt have stopped the counter-coup, but *maybe* it would have removed justin's motive for conducting it
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@will-richards ·
$4.51
How compatible with TRC10, TRC20 and various ERC standards does SMTs intend to be?

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/will-richards)
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@fluffcloud ·
I think one ERC1155 multi-token contract for all Steem tokens could work
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@movingman ·
I wasnt confused until Im reading the comments.. So the ninja mined stake of steemit *wont* be frozen? Now im confused!
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@chekohler ·
They've got a brand of new witnesses they can reverse the fork and go back to what it was. Using a massive borrowed stake to unlock their Ninja mine
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@movingman · (edited)
Thanks, I just read that on the post from taskmaster. What a clusterfuck 🤣
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@jacobpeacock ·
They used the ninja mined stake to vote with combined with stake that was bought off exchanges.
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@apsu ·
Also, you just pointed out you have no interest in the community. You aren't committed, it seems you never have been committed. You don't care about the community or the users.

You don't dare to say that you're committed. You are the bad actors and the other witnesses cared about the community.
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@crypto-pilot ·
$0.05
Anything that is owned by or that can be bought by someone is not decentralized. This has just been proven. In fact, as a crypto investor for years I believe that we we have all been fooled into thinking that we are investing in a decentralized solution, and, it may have started out that way. Like anything, the rich will centralize everything they can and make you pay for it. Nothing changed, the world is still the same as it was before 2009. Good luck everyone. :-)
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@yogajill ·
Well, That went from bad to worse. Ok Steem Fam, ❤🙏  What next..... 
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@chekohler ·
I guess we become another gambling app on tron lol
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@yogajill ·
Ugh ....talk about buzz kill!  This is such a wild, crazy ride man. Just 🤮. This is so precisely why decentralization is needed! 
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@udezee ·
This is hilarious. Broken promises. 
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@ragnarokdel ·
Well, he technically didnt use the steemit funds.:p
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@udezee ·
Read the announcement again. 
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@mindtrap ·
$0.29
This should be a lesson to all witnesses and all fools around here who were against fork 0.22.2. 

Happy now? This is what they wanted all along....
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@geekgirl · (edited)
If they didn’t do that, he would not have shown his true dictator face. Now I am glad they did the soft fork. Better to know earlier who you are dealing with than later.
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@mindtrap ·
Oh...we knew exactly who we were dealing with. It’s just that some people are romantically naive...

Do we really expect some progress at that meeting? Sheeesh....
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@novacadian ·
>This should be a lesson to all witnesses and all fools around here who were against fork 0.22.2.

[My objection](https://steemit.com/hf222/@novacadian/for-the-record-in-regards-to-hf22-2) to 22.2 was that it did not fix anything and in some comments even mentioned that a "...billionaire could still but majority stake tomorrow". Guess this is tomorrow. The lesson to be learned is don't take a knife to a gun fight and don't piss off a billionaire.
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@mindtrap ·
There wouldn’t be a consensus to freeze a giant stakeholder’s assets if they purchased their stake in the open market. 

As a matter of fact this would have skyrocketed the price and would have been beneficial for everyone. Do you feel benefited now?????

This stake was mined...illegally...and transferred to the highest bidder whose intentions were unknown....or should I say...known?
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@galenkp ·
I'd like to come up with something really intelligent and wise to say but I'm a bit speechless at the moment. So...

*Fuck you, cock-knocker,* will have to suffice.

That's all.

Actually...

*Asshole!*

There. That is all.
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@justyy · (edited)
牛掰 !thumbup 干的漂亮
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@friendlystranger ·
Finally! Thank you.
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@ragnarokdel ·
So, what does this hard fork do exactly?
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@ammonite ·
![Capture_2.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/ammonite/FViP5OQ6-Capture_2.jpg)

Are these all new witnesses or are they just voted up in ranking?
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@spectrumecons ·
Fake witnesses.
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@netuoso ·
They are running a single server for all those witnesses most likely
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@pundito ·
Just a thought:
If it is a single server and this server goes down (DDOS, Corona, fire) all 20 "witnesses" were gone, right? Who would take their position and what are their rights @netuoso?

Just a thought ...
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@abitcoinskeptic ·
> With that in mind, on February 13th, both TRON and Steemit planned to meet to discuss the future road map, with respect of the Steem community.

Either that is a typo and you Mean MARCH 13th, or you are full of shit.

Please confirm.
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@shadowspub ·
seems about right .. hold a meeting on Friday the 13th .. fits with the rest of the train wreck moves
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@abitcoinskeptic ·
I think it was an issue with clarity. What they meant to say is that they met on Feb 13th and plan to meet at an unspecified date.
In anycase, this is a disaster. 20 witnesses and their supporters (I personally didn't like all of them) is certainly better than 1 person.
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@bala41288 · (edited)
$0.06
>Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal. 

Using the stake from exchanges to take over the blockchain is also a crime and illegal act if you don't get it. This is a stupid move from you Justin. Now we all understand that you are as bad as Ned. 

After all this, I had hopes on steemit and stayed neutral on this. Now I'm skeptical about the future of this chain. 

You guys open your big mouth to talk today and give an announcement. Where did you keep your azz on 13th when all this shit happened. I guess the announcement and all this should have been told to us when Ned met Justin in a bar to sell off Steemit. 

I guess this one action will make people understand how bad you are. Such a shame!! 

Today may not be the end of Steem but this place will be full of shit. Sad day for the community.
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
Did you know that we HAD a tool that could prevent that?
https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights
It was explicitely designed for this reason: lock-out voting rights of accounts that should not be able to vote at all. Sounds like exchanges' virtual/technical  accounts, right? I'm so sad that I accidentally learned about that operation only like a week ago.. [thanks to inertia186's https://github.com/steemit/steem-ruby/blob/f477239d45212fd2294f68364c32b80f91f42089/test/steem/broadcast_test.rb#L38 :) ]
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@crypto.piotr ·
It's hard not to agree with most of your points @bala41288

I wonder how things would look if soft fork wouldn't happen. The moment when this fork took place - I felt that our community declared open conflict with Justin and I figured that if I were him - I would do anything and everything to remove current witnesses from their positions. I really feel that we didn't give him any reason to avoid doing it.

Cheers, Piotr
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@spectrumecons ·
![WhatisTHIS.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/spectrumecons/QR0jjutg-WhatisTHIS.jpg)

This is insane. 

Is this legal? 

It certainly feels disgusting.

![OurNEWwitnesses.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/spectrumecons/qntc2wrn-OurNEWwitnesses.jpg)
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@valued-customer ·
$0.04
Seems to me the exchanges violated the fiduciary trust they held to keep the funds safe when they stole them and exercised the right of ownership to use them to vote on witnesses.  The actual owners of the funds were deprived of their votes by the actions of the exchanges (an abstention is a vote), and now the blockchain is irreparably harmed and financially diminished as a result.

Multiple grounds for tort action to seek remedies IMHO.  Sadly, IANAL, although I'm told I should be.  Mostly because I argue so much.
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@tonytrillions · (edited)
# Y'all have to come to your senses and stop lying to yourselves. 

**Steemit is centralised and that's why it can be sold away, but #Bitcoin? Nobody can buy that crypto tech, moreover its owner is anonymous making ít even more decentralised.**

Its only in steemit where a group of so called witnesses can freeze a stake. I have never heard of a freeze of Bitcoin. Difference between **centralisation and decentralisation** 

Y'all authors & curators you thinking you're special in any case? LoL  You ain't different either, they can freeze your $10000 stake and you can do nothing about it....so wake up. Dreamtime is over!

***When the dust settles and many come to this realization, they will be trembling like a jackhammer***

### Justin wants to use Steemit for his own gain then dump y'all...
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@apshamilton ·
$0.26
But I can't post my blog on Bitcoin.
There was hope that Steem could be trully decentralised (and it was being slowly but surely).
This has set things back a long way.
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@kennyskitchen ·
Exactly, as @apshamilton said: *"I can't post my blog on Bitcoin."*

Bitcoin's goal is to be digital gold. But digital gold doesn't mean anything  inside of this same game where the bankers & governments control all the currencies and internet connections...

Blockchain tech is drastically more important than being a new shiny quarter. But that's not because of BTC, it's because of things like Steem, Ethereum, LBRY, etc.
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@notconvinced · (edited)
$0.05
Well, you single-handedly taking over the witnesses and changing the powerdown to 24 hours will tank the value and send ppl running.

I just came back to Steem a few weeks ago after 2 years. Now I'm thinking that's a bad idea.

Way to make an Oligarchy claiming to be decentralized even worse...
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@holoz0r ·
$0.15
Is that 20 day powerdown in the new code? 
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@notconvinced · (edited)
$0.05
Sorry, I mistyped...I meant 24hrs, it's early here.

It says above that Justin will be changing powering down to 24hrs to bring it in line with other blockchains.

Quote,
"Deploy Hard Fork 22.6 as soon as possible to reduce power down to 24 hours in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications."
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@aagabriel ·
天王蓋地虎,反流氓政府! Uranus is a tiger, an anti-rogue government!
寶塔鎮河妖,中共挨千刀! The Pagoda Zhenhe Yao, the Chinese Communist Party suffers thousands of swords!
嘟∼嘟嘟,開涮習頭豬! Toot ~ Toot, learn about pigs!
嘀∼嘀嘀,拉下習主席! pull down President Xi!

# TRONNIE SCUM COMMIE SCUM!!! FUCK YOU TO HELL AND BACK, CUNTS!


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@will-richards ·
Why is there no PR, release, commit or link to 22.5 that I can find? How can we validate what these new witnesses are running?

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@crystalandbones ·
It looks like they just published the code actually. There is a pull request on their github https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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@abdulmanan ·
https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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@trincowski ·
I created my account on 24 December of 2017. I had never used the Power Down feature ... until now.

With this scammy move, you've killed this Network. It's time for me to cash out, while I still can.

![otgs29.png](https://img.esteem.app/otgs29.png)

Thank you, Justin Bieber, for being such a dishonest prick.
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
You're powering down, ok, I myself am considering that. But, as the exchanges cooperate with "them", are you sure you really can withdraw your funds? ;)
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@trincowski ·
Thankfully I was using Bittrex and Blocktrades, which don't appear to be accomplices in this criminal takeover. 
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@yungchief ·
Lol, Not Bieber but Sun. If care its not taken, the sunlight of steemit might soon go off
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@trincowski ·
I said Bieber because this move was very childish.
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@ammonite ·
$0.05
I am sorry for the American community when they wake up to this.
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@jacobpeacock ·
Worst thing to wake up to in a very long time.
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@ammonite ·
Sorry, I think everyone is in shock and didn't want to wake you.
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@chekohler ·
$0.02
If you were against the soft fork I'd love to hear what you have to say now
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@ragnarokdel ·
I was against the soft fork and I still am. You dont resolve issues by escalating.
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@chekohler ·
You don't that's correct, but you do show peoples character when you escalate!
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@penderis ·
$0.07
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@chekohler ·
You're just trying to stir things up aren't you
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@hobo.media ·
I have got to start watching that cooking show...
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@techcoderx ·
Yes I am against the soft fork as I do not believe in censorship. I think that 0.22.2 just didn't work at all
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@chekohler ·
Well, I guess you sort of got your way since they're just jumped over the soft fork! I think it was a good acid test for the new management and they failed with this move
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@pangoli ·
The witnesses probably should have tried to talk about this before taking actions to freeze steemit's accounts.

I remember the last time there was as little as a whisper about forking steemit's stakes, ned started powering down. They agreed such a thing won't happen as long as he accepted to use the stakes for development purposes, which he did.

Under new leadership, we should have reached out to rediscuss those terms first. But no, we had to act out of fear by freezing their stakes first. At that point, our intent didn't matter to Justin Sun. He bought the company with his money and he had to protect his assets from threats.

I also think we must have been pretty dumb to think it was okay for ned to sell steemit with all that stake in the first place. If we believed it didn't belong to him, freezing it was a move we should have done a long, long time ago.
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@chekohler ·
From what I read, they tried to reach out and got radio silence and saw an opportunity to force comms with the soft fork before they were voted out like what has just happened. I think the end result is basically the same, they would have been kicked out sooner or later. 

It's just good to see the length at which these so-called decentralisation evangelists are willing to go to keep control, he showed his hands and it looks plenty filthy to me, but that's just my opinion 
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@novacadian ·
The reason for me being against 22.2 was that it did not fix the problem of a majority stake holder in a universal way but instead targeted specific accounts which broke the trust of the chain. STINC's actions has proven me correct on the first point and it is hard to see how that trust can be fixed.
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@chekohler ·
Yea sure it didn’t fix anything but I just thought it was to get discussions going over what to do with it since a new stake holder could do what they did now! I thought it was about agreeing new social contracts that community would be okay with I read a post about proposals on what to do with the stake which sounded good 

Anyway thing of the past now 
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@costanza ·
RIP STEEM
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@netuoso · (edited)
$1.91
> Unfortunately, the Witnesses’ decision created a need to reclaim the stake and vote in new witnesses to usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.

Haha thanks for showing that we were right all along. SteemIt stake was supposed to be nonvoting so you colluded with exchanges to bypass DpoS governance just like you did on your shit chain Tron

Ladies and gentlemen, Steemit is now owned by the Chinese government. Bow down and salute your communist overlords
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@geekgirl ·
They know how to push opposing comments down too. So stupid.
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@freebornangel ·
$0.05
They are socialusts,...
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.
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@mahdiyari ·
$1.09
Calm down, people!
Without community, these boys are worth nothing. Let them enjoy their shit show!
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@aagabriel ·
$0.71
@justinsunsteemit studied in the typical #mkultra inductee universities and became the new trojan horse for Gen Y wannabee trusted Knight Steemplars of the CCP & PLA. 


![image.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmd94v7zVjykpmoQxMCgGV9gwJh6D3kAieXFqkkgvNQDzQ/image.png)



> *A fantasy journey of "post-90s entrepreneurial leaders"
This is the longest push of GQ24 in history. It gathers two character reports published in the August issue, which respectively record the growth path and spiritual world of the two "time youths". One of them is Sun Yuchen from Peking University and the other is Liang Zhi from Tsinghua University.*
  
http://www.gq.com.cn/celebrity/news_182560eb97720e71.html

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gq.com.cn%2Fcelebrity%2Fnews_182560eb97720e71.html
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@trumpman ·
$0.04
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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@lucylin ·
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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@mobbs ·
Classic Trumpman lol
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@ragnarokdel ·
It's funny how people are taking a stance against Steemit taking a unilateral decision with this when this is exactly what the witnesses did not long ago with the soft fork. Both things happened within closed meetings with code that wasnt spoken of until it was in place.
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@stoodkev ·
$0.25
On top of the rest, Ben (one of Ned's account) is now heavily the 95% of the community that is standing to them, and upvoting the other 5% of scumbags.

Centralization : Done
Censure : Done

Good job, Steem looks more and more like China by the minute.
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@scorer ·
Roadmap without dates is a dream.
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@ocupation · (edited)
$23.73
Holy shit, didn't see that coming. You're actually trying to establish an order with premined stake while talking about decentralization? Did you have stroke in the meantime or what?

Fuck this shit, you actually showed that soft fork was absolutely neccessary.

 Btw i dont think you have 15 mil active users, whole crypto combined doesn't have that much😂😂😂

By removing our witnesses you have proved to be not worthie of our trust. We should have forked you out completely.
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@roundbeargames ·
![sunkimjongandxi.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmawaNE1mKMn9ozAo73Yuw1fYFtA33tGk8UT8WgkT5qJxX/sunkimjongandxi.png)

we know who's behind his ass
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@beingunknown ·
What a load of bullcrap. This blockchain was living off of the interactions and the community.  And now you are destroying it for personal gains. Textbook superiority complex..
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@yungchief ·
Whatever its best for the community, like Justin said in his Open letter, that he will be having a meeting with 50 witnesses. I think it is time for that. MSP waves can make the discussion faster. This is time for everyone to work together
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@enforcer48 ·
Of which 20 is him? lol
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@pangoli ·
lmao
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@howo ·
Well, today is the day steem dies. As a witness I am sorry, we tried hard to prevent this from happening but the game was rigged from the start.
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@moon32walker ·
$0.03
These are the consequences when one person @ned decides to sell, all that talk about decentralization was just a marketing trick, dpos proved to be a flawed system, specially if you include premined coins.

What can I say this was the worst imaginable start of new partnership, witnesses did a radical move with softfork, steemit inc did even more radical move with voting in new witnesses. The trust is ruined for sure on both sides.

With all this going on I have a legitimate fear that I wasted almost 4 years of my life on this blockchain. Things will calm down as they always do, but being an active Steemian during these days of radical moves is not easy at all.
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@d-pend · (edited)
$0.09
>These are the consequences when one person @ned decides to sell, all that talk about decentralization was just a marketing trick, dpos proved to be a flawed system, specially if you include premined coins.

Have seen some convincing articles exploring in-detail the weakness of dPOS. POW also has its flaws and susceptibilities but it seems dPOS's are greater, from what little I know.

>What can I say this was the worst imaginable start of new partnership, witnesses did a radical move with softfork, steemit inc did even more radical move with voting in new witnesses. The trust is ruined for sure on both sides.

From the very beginning press releases it was failed communication and lack of trust on every level.

>With all this going on I have a legitimate fear that I wasted almost 4 years of my life on this blockchain. Things will calm down as they always do, but being an active Steemian during these days of radical moves is not easy at all.

One year less for me, and yes I put large sums of $$ and (far more valuable to me) energy/life into this place. However, I am confident that I will not look back with regret given the lessons I've learned and relationships I've built. Completely agree that this is a difficult time to be involved, past few weeks have been absolutely crazy! !ENGAGE 30
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@misterengagement ·
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@nonsowrites ·
$0.05
As a community member i am totally against the actions of steemit and tron to hostilely take over the steem blockchain. This wont pan out well for any body. The beginning of the end.
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@jga · (edited)
$42.30
# Why the softfork 0.22.2 didn't prevent this?
## How this was done?

They used the funds in several exchanges to power up. Concretely:

Account | Steem Power | Time of Power up
--- | --- | ---
@binance-hot  |   31 730 053.775 SP | March 2
@huobi-withdrawal | 8 002 101.000 SP | March 2
@poloniex     |    2 293 743.643 SP | March 2
@ben         |     1 536 362.853 SP | Last year (Feb 2019)
@bitdev100  |       800 109.047 SP  | March 2
@pacemaker   |      636 317.641 SP | March 2
@joe767676     |    240 516.435 SP | March 2
@imadev     |       227 153.927 SP |
@geos      |        180 006.613 SP | March 2

**In total 45.6 million Steem Power**... This is more or less the steem power that the previous witnesses received in votes.

They needed at least 17 new witnesses in the top 20 in order to apply a new fork... With this amount of power it is possible, then they changed the top witnesses. 

The new fork allowed Steem account to vote for witnesses... then finally they used this power to vote for the new witnesses, which is around **60 million more steem power**. So, at the end, **they reached 106 million steem power in votes** (more than double the previous witnesses).

All the funds of these exchanges are powered up, meaning they will not work for steem for at least 3 months (unless they change the rules for a short quit power down only for this group, take this in mind).

**Bittrex didn't participate in this movement**. They still have liquid steem (15 million in total). So the alternative to sell (if you want) is using Bittrex or Blocktrades.

Very bad days. I want to sell.
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@sorin.cristescu ·
On the contrary, this looks like an interesting time ! Finally, steem elicits interest ! Rather than a sleepy old blockchain, this move which seems a relatively straightforward power fight will probably hit the headlines !

There is no such thing as "bad publicity" :-)

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@enforcer48 ·
Bring the popcorn!
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@ura-soul ·
$0.02
Yeah, hitler was in the news a lot. happy days.
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@scorer ·
Yeah, I enjoyed this move too. 🥳🍿
!popcorn
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@netuoso ·
$0.71
You say "interesting times" I say "the Chinese Communist Party has used their investment in Tron to gain control of yet another social media landscape they can control the narrative of"

Don't be so naive. This is the epitome of "bad publicity" for the security and integrity of the network. This chain has become Eastern controlled. Enjoy
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@jeffjagoe ·
.... until we realize @justinsuntron and exchanges paid hush-money to the major crypto outlets so this story does not see the daylight.
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@fluffcloud ·
Hmm... Whose money were on these exchanges' acccounts? The exchanges' customers? IANAL but these exchanges clearly don't respect their customers' rights to their assets
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@firstamendment ·
ddos binance and houbi?
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@bobskibob ·
What happens if most of the people withdraw their steem from exchanges ? Within 24 h period
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@kennyskitchen ·
$0.68
They can't. All that STEEM was powered up today, to allow for the witness voting. Anyone trying to withdraw will have to wait 13 weeks; they already turned off the option to even request withdrawals on Binance apparently.
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@tngflx ·
Why are you thinking of selling your stake? No one going to propose a hardfork instead?
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@jga ·
Good question.

Let's consider two scenarios:

**Scenario 1**
There is no hard fork. Exchanges and Steemit Inc decide to unvote Tron witnesses (Binance already did it). I suppose that there will be some type of agreement, and previous witnesses will come back.
This is showing me that there is still a power that can take control again in the future. People will not like this, and they will want to sell.

**Scenario 2**
There is a hard fork.
- Assume that we remove the Steem Power of Steemit Inc. Then people will feel that the exchanges could take the control again in the network. They will want to sell.
- Then assume that we remove the tokens from these exchanges. A lot of investors will lose their money. Remember that the price of steem is thanks to investors, then we need a plan for them.
- Ok, we need a plan for these investors, then exchanges still have tokens but we restrict the power up. In this case the exchanges could distribute these tokens between several accounts, difficult to trace, and use these new accounts to power up and take again control. We need a different plan.
- Ok, lets go with this plan: All tokens in these exchanges will lose the right to vote for witnesses. If an investor sends this token to another one then the receptor will lose the right to vote for witnesses using this token. I mean, we create 2 accounting systems: One that uses normal Steem, and another one with Steem LF (limited features) that have lose the right to vote for witnesses. I already proposed this to some witnesses, but there is no good feedback from them, principally because we are creating a new token, which will confuse the people and it's not good for mass adoption.

So, in conclusion it is not clear how to make the hardfork. Then most probably the first scenario will survive.
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@okean123 ·
That's very good news! Good move from Steemit, Binance and Justin! 
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@chewing ·
Good way! Make STEEM better platform for people!
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@creativeblue · (edited)
Wow. What a day.
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@fullcoverbetting ·
$0.05
Well this is getting interesting. If you do call the previous softfork maliciously, this one also should be called malicious. No information has been given what is included in this harfork. 
I guess we have to live with this fact at the moment, because according to the SP vested I was a so called call of the community!

Cheers,
Peter
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@lucylin ·
Malicious was the intent, reaction was the reaction to malicious intent.
Naive beyond belief to believe anything else would have been the _re_action.
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@crypto.piotr ·
Dear @steemitblog

I've surely mixed feeelings about entire situation, however I do understand that recent soft fork could be seen as a hostile behaviour towards new major stakeholder. And I also thought that it could be potentially illegal to do what they did. 

Already at that moment I thought that if I were Justin, then I would lose my faith in any chance of collaborating with current witnesses and I would feel pushed towards removing them. I'm very worried about future of steemit and steem blockchain - however I would most likely react the same way Justing did. 

So to certain degree I understand what just happened, as I would do the same.

> Enhancing the quality of user experience on Steemit.com by removing ads

Removing ads? I wonder why?

Yours, Piotr
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@edje · (edited)
What STINC did (shows how centralisation works) is much more harmfull to the future of Steem and all its services as well as community and foremost the trust and value of the Steem currency, then what the witnesses did with the previous softfork (shows how decentralisation works).

Ads: no income and just annoying the users. Revenue model in cryptospace shall not be based on old world models like add.
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@crypto.piotr ·
Thank you @edje for your comment
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@crypto.piotr ·
$0.07
It's me again @edje

Thanks for your previous comment.

I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community.  Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: [on steemit](https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/community-of-the-week-challenge-entry-for-project-hope-community) or [on steempeak](https://steempeak.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/community-of-the-week-challenge-entry-for-project-hope-community)

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr
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@cwow2 ·
Hmm... So I happy I just powered up x)
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@bobskibob ·
😂 😂
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@galenkp ·
$0.85
*Decentralised* means freedom of speech mate. Obviously that's not a thing here anymore...Nice $18 downvote on my previous comment. 

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@apsu ·
What a dickless owner on Steemit inc. and whole Steemit team is built from fucking losers. No wonder how Steemit.com has always been a fucking disaster, when people are spineless and stupid as hell.

Enjoy flagging all critical comments and pretending to care about the community? You have no value.
👎  
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@sayee ·
Thinking positively is good. I do hope more users from Tron will be able to enjoy the experience that steemit has given us and also enjoy playing splinterlands game. I already have used tronlink and wallet to buy dec for the ingame. It would be great to see a post on tron based games in here too so that we people can also learn more about it. 

I am a nearly veteran user of steemit and associated apps and I just do not want to be taken in by the FUD that is circling our heads as of now. We are all users who have invested both time, money and even based our life around this website and are really scared about what will happen to us steemians. So, I hope you guys will keep the steem side of it and hope it will not affect us all badly. 

Wishing you all the best of luck and may good happen to all.
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@osavi ·
$18.86
What the hell?! 
*"New witness"* accounts were created yesterday and today they are steem witness? How? Everything is on the blockchain. 
What we can learn from TRON? How to centralize the ecosystem? How to impose censorship? 
THIS IS NOT STEEM WHAT WE WANT TO! 
Only #SteemClassic
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@kiwisteem ·
you think that this place is censorship free?  lol 
there are plenty of censored accounts here for sharing inconvenient truths !
one of them is mine
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@adetorrent ·
$0.05
> Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.

Dang!  This is kind of good.  I'd go for 3 days just to offer some protection from hackers.]

>For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community  .........

![](https://www.lavendermagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/CaningPunishment_BigStock_Snap2Art-640x644.jpg)
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@deniskj ·
Today, the Steem blockchain as we know it died. Implement the hardfork so I can take out my stake and leave.
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@sneak ·
$0.05
> Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.

Wow. Somebody doesn’t know how blockchains or p2p works. 
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@ash ·
I think 80% here have no idea about DPoS and the plutocracy that comes with it. 
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@sneak · (edited)
$0.05
This isn't about DPoS.  It's simply not illegal or criminal to patch a f/oss p2p app running  on your own machine, which is what the witnesses did. This ain't a bank account, it's a blockchain: it's a game where everything's made up and the points don't matter.

Nobody "froze" an account, because there are no accounts and nothing to steal.

Cryptocurrency tokens aren't assets.  They're not property.  You can't own them.  You can have knowledge of a key, and you can publish transactions derived from it.  They're speech, not property.

Freedom of association means that nobody has to listen to your speech if they don't like what you're saying.   This includes your transactions, and applies to block producers.
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@crystalandbones ·
It looks like they just published the code. There is a pull request on their github. https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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@vlemon ·
$0.48
RIP Decentralization !

Huobi and Binance are joining the party to overtake STEEM with their friend TRON.

Decentralization lost I guess...

Sad time for STEEM that actually proved it was decentralized when OUR witnesses resisted an hostile takeover with Justin Sun lying from the very st day !
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@martie7 ·
Decentralization was lost long time ago.
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@valued-customer · (edited)
It never really existed as long as the founder's stake did.  The illusion of decentralization, freedom of speech, and all the rest was merely the result of @ned's largesse.  Our freedom was what he wanted, so that's what he allowed.
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@arcange · (edited)
$1.47
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@rycharde ·
>open for discussion for better economic implications.

I have studied this Steem blockchain and ecosystem for over 2 years and have an understanding of how the different parts fit together. 

The macro-economics of Steem is astonishingly stable and self-correcting. 

The micro-economics needs some work as the same parameters of reward curve and curation split do not affect users in the way people seem to think. *That* needs some work - and some thinking.

I have spoken before to a previous Steemit Inc dev - was some time ago and about how to attenuate vote-rings. It didn't come to anything then, but feel free to get in touch on Discord (same username).

The other bullet points sound like what I had envisioned happening.
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@sneak ·
https://sneak.berlin/20200220/discord-is-not-an-acceptable-choice-for-free-software-projects/
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@ash ·
OT: isn't matrix/riot a good replacement?
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@rycharde ·
Hi, seems a very long time ago!
Good article about security whenever a project actually needs to keep secrets.
Discord is just a convenient point of first contact. Actually using Tor on one project plus, as you say, pure email is not so bad and avoids chit chat.
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@roelandp ·
$23.27
In a response to this I have shutdown my Steem Apps for iOS and Android: https://steemwallet.app - removed from appstores. 

Additional apps have already been shut down by their respective owners to signal distrust in the centralisation of the Steem Chain: 
- steemSql
- Steemitboard
- SteemApps
- SmartSteem
- SteemWallet.app for iOS & Android
- dPOLL

C.R.A.Z.Y. 
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@lacking ·
$0.04
Good job!

Now that it's apparent forking doesn't work this is the best way to fight this kind of bullshit. 
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@eqko ·
$0.06
Sounds like an excellent idea to deprive 'The Community' you're claiming to fight for of the tools to interact with the blockchain. *insert facepalm*
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@enginewitty ·
Right? Some community support there.
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@firstamendment ·
They can be reactivated on a future forked chain which will be community based.  No sense allowing justin Sun to benefit from their hard work.
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@jeffjagoe ·
$0.11
I support this. All STEEM apps/infrastructure should protest by going dark and maybe even using a MEMO to inform all users of the hostile takeover and its implications.

@justinsuntron and @steemitblog should know that without the STEEM Community, Justin bought nothing but a big pile of worthless SHITcoins.
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@joanstewart ·
>Steemit and the Steem community is one of a kind within the current blockchain landscape. It had its own history.

Downvoted this since it looks Rogue, all top witnesses are not original Steem Witnesses, all on 22.5 all on same income value....

If it looks like shit, smells like shit it must be..... Sorry just the way I feel!
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@ben ·
Steem Soft Fork 0.22.5 is available now on github: https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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@geekgirl · (edited)
Your end is near...0.22.6 soon, please...
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@anshia ·
But who can make 22.6 when new top 20 witnesses are under his control?
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@apsu ·
You're a very rare kind of loser.
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@berniesanders ·
https://i.imgur.com/S2uhREE.png
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@firstamendment · (edited)
remove your witness votes for this fork.  Put it back into the witnesses running 22.2.  Your investment in steem is about to become worthless is you don't-just like the rest of ours.

If you are a steemit employee/contractor, please do the right thing and send them a resignation letter and protest the CCP takeover.   Might want to release 22.6 and install which deletes all the coins held by houbi, binance, and steemit inc too.  That'll be interesting when the exchanges who robbed this community realize they can no longer pay back the real owners of the coin and the exchanges are forced to buy it themselves.
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@snook · (edited)
$0.16
I think Ned knew just what he was doing by selling to Tron. He knew how the Witnesses would act.

JSun should have known to call steemit, steemit and not steemy at the AMA. He should have known we are Steemians and the word  SMT.

Think about what all has happened from the perspective of an angry person with a toy everyone wants that you own but no one likes you.

Now it is getting even better because everyone is fighting in the comments from fear and disbelief while watching our home fall apart.

Everyone knew how much money JSun has. Take away a new toy from someone and do you think they will be happy? 

Would you? if you, meaning anyone on Steem, had a billion dollars and spent some pocket change on a new toy just sit back while people took it away from you.

Okay, not all of it away, but tied you up in a corner to sit and think about what you have not done yet...

We Steemian either ALL stick together and now wait or leave. Either way, fighting in the comments with each other and calling people names brings **us** Steemians farther apart not closer.

Now if you had just written the post above would you want everyone fighting and not talking to each other like below OR it quiet so you do not know what is going on?

Just my thoughts.......
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@enginewitty ·
Exactly. There was never any confusion on their end, but they sure instilled it with a few purposefully guided word raps and fed the dogs their bones. They have been giving @ned shit for years and trying to bully him into doing this that and the other. SO, he said, fine, you don't like me, ta hell with ya. Let someone else deal with you for awhile. Now, the new guy, isn't as tolerant as the last guy. He'll take his toys back and punch you in the damn face. Just sayin. It is sad everyone calling them names and when it comes right down to it, they haven't <b>GIVEN THEM A GODDAM CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING YET.</b> Sorry, got stupid there for a second.
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@enforcer48 ·
The only stupid you got there is thinking he even needed a chance to do anything.

He doesn't need your chances. His mind was made up day one.

He doesn't need you in his new platform. He doesn't even need the community. There are enough people in China to fill the void.
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@freedomtowrite ·
Are you sure you are smart enough for this comment? 😂😂
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@berniesanders ·
Who the fuck are you?  You don't even have any stake here you poor little bitch.
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@novacadian ·
>Sorry, got stupid there for a second.

Just because your stupid does not mean you are not correct. 😎
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@vgalue ·
Socialism was imposed by steemit inc?
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@lacking ·
Way to prove how ~~de~~centralized this platform is. I'm out. I knew as soon as the Sun rumors started in December that Steemit was deader than dicks. Why I decided to stick around is beyond me. Fuck the Steemit team. Individually and personally.
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@kus-knee ·
Floggings will continue until moral improves!
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@jacobpeacock ·
An important question to ask here is what was changed in the code of 0.22.5? 

There is absolutely no documentation of it anywhere.


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@crystalandbones ·
It looks like they just published the code actually. There is a pull request on their github https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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@jacobpeacock ·
A little late on that.
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@kennyskitchen ·
It's actually not clear if that is the code they are running or not (according to witnesses in the town hall)
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@fredrikaa ·
$0.41
> They even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger.

Where does this statement stem from?
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@jacobpeacock ·
$0.05
From an obvious disinformation campaign spearheaded by Steemit Inc!
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@mahdiyari ·
$19.25
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@roundbeargames ·
![maozesun.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmeR7MMLLERaRsdmGMDdbVt9rCFMb6UeJv8VKbzqYpW2XH/maozesun.png)
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@r1s2g3 ·
If power down window is 3 days then what will be post payout window?
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@planetenamek ·
Da fuck :-D !
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@edje · (edited)
Hmmmm, how does this work?
Hostile takeover is possible?

In Marketing they say: Bad news is also good; But I do wonder what happened here will do any good to Steem, as well as to the hard working community giving value to Steem. 

Additionally: How is it possible to reward Witness more as well as Content creators and/or curators? Does STINC plans to change the Steem token generation algorithms? Floating more Steem per day, and increasing the total finite amount of Steem?

Am very concerned about the blah blah marketing message in this post; And the realisation no concrete information is given at all; Did you Guys really thought things through?

ps Too bad you guys didn’t pick up on the recent Tweet by Dan Larimer with his congratulations for the development of MIRA; Something he now considers to use at EOS. THAT message should’ve been used for Marketing purposes last few days; Not this blockchain takeover! Did you guys ever went to some sort of Business School?
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@liberosist ·
$0.27
> This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

Irony as thick as a rhinoceros' hide.
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@v4vapid · (edited)
$0.99
# <center> **FORK YOU**! </center> 
<B>
<B>

<center> ![Crime Scene.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/v4vapid/gLlK94RV-Crime20Scene.png) </center>

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@whatamidoing ·
$0.39
An appeal to steemit users: 

As this drama plays out, please reach out to the friends you’ve made here and make sure you stay connected even if this place falls apart.  Love you all
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@donekim ·
What the fuck are you guys doing...?
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@enforcer48 ·
The Party has come to take over I guess.
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@theadmiral0 ·
$0.07
Holy crap - You've just shown your WILLING to do the EXACT same thing you are saying is HOSTILE to do?

* If STEEMINC don't like something whats stops you doing the same thing in the future?
* How can you build a trusting community when you don't value it.
* Isn't it a bit hypocritical?
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@theguruasia ·
$0.05
@steemitblog, @ned, @justinsunsteemit,
I can express my feeling by 2 words. (fk off)

Congratz you just made an unethical move and the chain became centralized. I think it's time to move to the STEEM Classic or whatever. 

Cheers with your fking centralized sh!t
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@pele23 ·
Well, the weird prt is: nothing illegal happened here... This was about to happenn
 And we could have this move comin after soft fork22.2...
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@sneak · (edited)
$0.91
I wonder how the government regulators will feel about a single organization unambiguously unilaterally dictating the price feeds for the SBD conversion.

Now that the blockchain has a single operator, they can manipulate the SBD conversion rate to whatever they like.

Right now, the only thing getting pegged are the existing holders of STEEM.

2 Mar 2020: The day we learned that @dan's DPoS experiment is finally and incontrovertibly a failure.
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@noisy ·
with Exchanges, which can vote with not their funds.... from now every PoS can be considered as failure
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@sneak ·
It seems that they can and did.  I don't even think there is a reasonable presumption that they *should not*.  After all, the money is entrusted to them and is under their control.  Why shouldn't they vote it?
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@valued-customer ·
>"Right now, the only thing getting pegged are the existing holders of STEEM."

Kudos!  I confess to admiring your way with words here.

Thanks!
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@themarkymark ·
$0.46
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@enginewitty ·
Saw that too huh🤔😆
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@stopthemarkymark ·
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"I've never seen anyone leave such a long trail of blazing dumpster fires. I now believe the wreckless downvoting and blacklisting of thousands of accounts by themarkymark et al is the SOLE reason the price of Steem continues to fall. I didn't even make the photo for this post. That's right, I found it online. Fucking amazing."

# Look at all these complaints from people all over the Internet
Most of these are written OFF of Steemit so as to avoid being downvoted and hidden. Amazing. So much for this "censorship-free blockchain". 

## [themarkymark Hey. Sorry about your shit coin...](https://www.reddit.com/r/steem/comments/co6f1s/themarkymark/)

## [Groups of people and a top witness (themarkymark) are trying to dive me off of steem/steemit by harassing me](https://www.reddit.com/r/steem/comments/cp7prz/groups_of_people_and_a_top_witness_are_trying_to/)

## [Getting blacklisted (by themarkymark) becomes expensive on Steem](https://www.reddit.com/r/steemit/comments/973zl2/getting_blacklisted_becomes_expensive_on_steem/)

## [themarkymark & Berniesanders Responsible For Altcoin Collapse?](https://goldvoice.club/steem/@pagandance/themarkymark-and-berniesanders-responsible-for-altcoin-collapse/)

## Is TheMarkyMark Abusing The Steemit Blockchain?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3gnH8lxxFQM

## [Listen as themarkymark evades questions about his identity and gives up his real motives](https://3speak.online/watch?v=exyle/jwfrzoal)

## [The Arrogant "themarkymark"](http://network.futuretechinsider.com/@yehey/the-arrogant-themarkymark)

## [Dedicated to that unknown mystery douche: themarkymark](https://dfgtc.org/docs/STEEMIT_DAZE_2017_2018.pdf)

## [@themarkymark Stole Thousands Of $$ From Me](https://steempeak.com/@smidge-tv/themarkymark-stole-thousands-of-usdusd-from-me)

## [My Letter to @themarkymark - in response to his continual flagging of my account](http://busy.org/@coininstant/my-letter-to-themarkymark-in-response-to-his-continual-flagging-of-my-account-and-not-hearing-about-my-steemleo-block-from/amp)

## [Harassment and Censorship by themarkymark continues. Now flagging everything I post for no reason](https://goldvoice.club/steem/@fubar-bdhr/harassment-and-censorship-by-themarkymark-continues-now-flagging-everything-i-post-for-no-reason/)

## [Crooket @themarkymark](https://steempeak.com/steem/@smidge-tv/image-worth-a-thousand-words-themarkymark)

## [@themarkymark, another fake account that flags without reason, like the berniesanders whales circle jerk](https://steemit.com/censorship/@pagandance/2mphhs-themarkymark-another-fake-account-that-flags-without-reason-like-the-berniesanders-whales-circle-jerk)

## [Another example of censorhsip on steemit. Witness (themarkymark) downvotes truth about his actions.](https://steemit.com/steemit/@fubar-bdhr/another-example-of-censorhsip-on-steemit-witness-downvotes-truth-about-his-actions)

## [Big Thanks For ThemarkyMark, Anyx, Patrice and Others Who Helped Ruin Steemit](https://steemit.com/infowar/@pagandance/big-thanks-for-themarkymark-anyx-patrice-and-others-who-helped-ruin-steemit)

## [Open letter to those who provide Red Flag with downvotes](https://steemit.com/downvote/@xpilar/open-letter-to-those-who-provide-red-flag-with-downvotes)

## [My Post About Asian Countries Being the Largest Ocean Polluters Was Downvoted By Badcontent. WHY?](https://steemit.com/censorship/@pagandance/my-post-about-asian-countries-being-the-largest-ocean-polluters-was-downvoted-by-badcontent-why)

## [I Got Downvoted!?! It's Not Fair! Can You Help Me???](https://steemit.com/steem/@lukestokes/i-got-downvoted-it-s-not-fair-can-you-help-me)

## [More THIEVES (themarkymark) on Steem Blockchain? Be careful with bidbots...](https://steemit.com/fraud/@prc/more-thiefs-on-steem-blockchain-be-careful-with-bidbots-don-t-use-booster-here-is-why)


![themarkymark_nzi.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSur5ac5SUHqTyKKe13L6ESebX3gcE5cxiNzyBsirPJuW/themarkymark_nzi.png)

![riffraff.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmTJZY7EoYXSDVn7VvckFSGeC1r99WDALv1M8WStrouHHJ/riffraff.png)

[Clone this protest bot](https://github.com/vigilo4u/protestbot)

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@baah · (edited)
$0.68
>On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.

Bullshit. Not only were these people among the most trusted and well respected members of the community but by slandering them in this way and the overwhelming majority stakeholders that vetted them with their STAKE and supported the hf in effort of keeping the integrity of our chain as intact as possible, you've revealed yourselves as two faced liars. You do not care about the integrity of the project, especillay as the hf you deem hostile was in response to direct threats of underming the entire EcoSystem by having it moved over to Tron, as numerous sources have reported Internal Communications and plans for this. You have nothing, no more thin veneer of respect, no more trust, you have forefited everything that you claim, including your stake, exactly by Undoing the CONSENSUS Fork, and we all know that Consensus is Law, you went Directly Against the code. 
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@novacadian ·
$0.05
>Not only were these people among the most trusted and well respected members of the community

Every witness that had my support and installed 22.2 lost my vote on the day it was announced.  They broke the trust of the chain, regardless of what actions have followed.
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@valued-customer ·
$0.10
Same.  I couldn't abide the financial harm to a user the fork was intended to effect.  They'd allowed @ned to have that power unforked for four years.  Suddenly old @ned wasn't there to kick around anymore, and they took action.

Wasn't just.  I can understand - and now we see - why they acted, but it was too late, and blaming @ned isn't an explanation.  What are they blaming him for?  He had this power for years and never used it.  

@justinsunsteemit did use it.  He should not have had that power to use, if this was a decentralized blockchain.  It never has been - except as the party capable of solitary governance of the blockchain mandated it be, and that's what @ned mandated by not using the stake to centralize it.
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@norbu ·
Touche!
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@ayijufridar ·
I should be calm with the closing sentence **This will be nothing but an exciting future.** But reading a lot of worries in the comments column, my eyes turn dark. 

Is this the beginning of the end?
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@holm ·
"Decentralized"... A word with little meaning to the steemit team it seems. :) Good job on fucking everything up.
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@namiks ·
Go fuck yourselves.
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@freedompoint ·
$0.14
I can't help but stand back and slow clap!

I do not ever debate the idea of "right" or "wrong" , but I do appreciate playing chess which has moves and counter moves.

Anyone can see there has been actions and reactions. It seems like the witnesses idea to protect the chain was to use gasoline to put out a fire that wasn't even burning yet due to fear...and now it is burning. 

I think when it comes to decisions that are made it is simple...if someone makes a decision they should be willing to live with whatever comes from their decisions...... Welcome to #newsteem 😂😃
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@enginewitty ·
Well put hombre. Who in their right mind, knowing it could be easily countered, would have done what they did? Just saying. It was like going to play football against the Seahawks when all they knew how to play was Jenga.
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@kryptokayden ·
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


![image.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmP1j4P3VY6XBYnoN4UxhY7uSRFLGVC2KWtWN8jDMrP1v9/image.png)
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@skinnercrypto ·
$0.02
You know what? This might be fair. I figured that increased interoperability and continued maintenace of Steem instead of abandonment or replacement is good. I want that. I like Steem a lot.

Lets find a crossroads people, and get through this. Steem on.
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@coinchaos ·
https://media.giphy.com/media/xhN4C2vEuapCo/giphy.gif

This is so funny. You are all criminals!
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@sn0n ·
Breathe everyone. This may seem crazy, but things will work themselves out and correct. The technology stack is what makes steem, steemians make it home. Our home has been a bit cluttered lately, maybe a cleanup is what's needed? 
# Where do your values lay?
 Because if it's decentralization, go for the pure decentralized services, the ones not involving currency, the ones doing it because it's the right thing.

 If it's because you "get paid for your content", this takeback is the right thing, because it shows that the blockchain integrity of wallets, won't be compromised. 

You can change the deck at a poker game, but you can never steal someone's chips. The decks been stacked, time to shuffle it. 
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@kevinwong ·
$3.26
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@edje ·
$0.06
I shall follow you in just sit back and relax on my large coach and view the war unfolding :)
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@mattjack ·
U got the best idea on how to react to this mess!
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@shmoogleosukami ·
$0.18
So basically steemit has full control over everything that goes into the steem blockchain.
1-3day powerdown. WTF!!! we never wanted that. We already had a massive debate about it saying anything lower than 4 weeks seem risky due to how account recovery works and such.

You've already thrown in a ton of things you are planning on doing without even consulting the community and we have no say now cause you've just demonstrated that at any point in time you can take full control of the blockchain.

There is absolutely no way anyone can trust the blockchain as it is now. There is no decentralized governance anymore as you've just demonstrated.

Well done.
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@kendrahill ·
There was never a decentralized governance system in place to begin with.
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@vikisecrets ·
$0.29
Exchanges voting with customer funds to remove all 20 community voted witnesses is a criminal action! This is exactly what the community wanted to prevent by temporarily freezing the ninja-mined assets of Steemit. On the plus site we and the crypto community as a whole are now learning a great lesson about the weaknesses of a DPOS system and how to improve it in the future. We need to deescalate the situation now and work an a better Steem 2.0 which is more decentralized.
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@jacobpeacock ·
$0.05
This post by @apshamilton sums thing up rather well...

# HF 22.5: Binance, Poloniex & Houbi Take over Steem

https://steempeak.com/palnet/@apshamilton/hf-22-5-binance-poloniex-and-houbi-take-over-steem
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@tsnaks ·
> Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.

You know I am not a crypto guy, I don't have much knowledge about what's going on.

But fucking hell, 1-3 days to power down ?? That's criminal

Make it at least a week, or more.
Powering up should mean commitment. 
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@tamiil ·
Not to mention it was protection against hacks and phishing. Now if someone gets hold of your keys they can instantly cash out. Before this you had time to initiate Steem's account recovery process and secure your account before you lost your money.
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@namiks ·
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@preparedwombat · (edited)
$2.14
>The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use **part of the Steemit stake for such executions**. 

Translation: 0.1% constitutes a part.

>usher in **new policies** for a healthier ecosystem and community.

Translation: complete control by TRON.

>may be deemed illegal and criminal

Translation: we didn’t like it.

>The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member

Translation: The group behind this was **never** going to do this for any stake other than ninja-mined.

>On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.

We smashed the will of the community who’d voted for witnesses of their choice and imposed our will.

>The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.

Translation: Since the witnesses we select *are* the community deciders, the Steem blockchain will be abandoned or merged to TRON.

>Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible

Translation: There will be no discussion, as there have been with ALL other Hard Forks. Your corporate overlord knows what’s best.

>For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community

Translation: Until the next Plenary Session, The Central Committee of the Politburo will exercise unfettered executive control.

>After the 4-6 weeks period, the Steemit team will give the governance back to the community when it’s back in order and mutual agreement.

Translation: Once we have broken the back of those who dared to oppose the Central Authority, the governance of the puppet state of New Manchukuo will be in place.
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@mobbs ·
>our corporate overlord knows what’s best.

Communist*
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@freebornangel ·
$0.28
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.
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@valued-customer ·
One caveat: no one seems to understand this, but all Steem was ninjamined, or produced via inflation.  Every Steem.  All of it.
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@d0zer ·
$0.03
I had hope when you bought Steemit but now it’s all over. Community, maybe we can come together and start one last initiative? An international powerdown day.
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@glory7 ·
$0.05
Wow. What a "eye for an eye" movement. 

After one side did soft fork to remove other side's "rights" without any public conversation/discussion,

the other side came back with the same sneak attack and got its "rights" back. 

Things are getting interesting. Look forward to the town hall meeting.
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@tamiil ·
$0.05
Thank you, but I'm done with this version of Steem. If community chosen witnesses decide to fork to Steem Classic or whatever then I go with them, but this here is the last straw. Time to power down and leave.
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@tsnaks ·
This post talks so much about TRON

I came to this platform because of STEEM .  . .
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@bil.prag ·
"open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses"
that is really easy now that one man is controlling all the witnesses. maybe he will be talking to himself. we want that live.
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@jacobpeacock ·
Maybe he will do another AMA where he is apparently/possibly/allegedly all coked out.
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@dalz ·
$0.02
The 30 witnesses voting rule.
That is who to blame!

Lesson learned the hard way.
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@d-pend ·
Most major lessons in life are usually learned the hard way. Call it animal complacency? Humans care about food, shelter, emotional/social needs first, everything else is extra and requires additional energy to care about.
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@firepower ·
Disappointed by this hostile take over of the Steem blockchain to say the least!
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@freddio ·
i dont know,

Both hardforks are not that good i think.  Will this 1-3 Days powerdown stays forever? Because i dont like it.
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@tamiil ·
Don't you want scammers to get away with your money or smth? Previously you had plenty of time to get your account back before someone else could get away with your funds in case of phishing. Now not so much, a brighter future indeed.
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@adetorrent ·
With any luck, the Steem price will surpass my DCA so I can exit to BitCoin or something.
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@thelogicaldude ·
I get to do another 100% downvote! This was the bullshit we were afraid of in the first place! 
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@jeffjagoe ·
I usually hate government intervention... but I would be very happy to see the SEC investigate and prosecute you criminals.
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@allcapsonezero ·
"This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen."

I think it just did.
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@funnyman ·
Softfork 22.2 shouldn't have happened in the first place and more than half of the community was against it.  Justin, being a rich and smart man with great connections would have anyway taken it back. I won't say that this is the right move to do it but he only had this choice left to get what it's his.
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@jacobpeacock ·
For those spreading disinformation (and for those who are curious) about Soft Fork 0.22.2 that was intended to prevent this sort of **hostile takeover** I recommend that you read the following article by @blocktrades

# The Legal Basis of Cryptocurrency Forks
https://steempeak.com/cryptocurrency/@blocktrades/the-legal-basis-of-cryptocurrency-forks
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@firstamendment ·
remember, now that they control the witnesses-they are the community. So when they say the community decides....it means they decide.

Time to serve an injunction up their a__, if anyone has the money for such a suit.
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@bil.prag ·
anyone care to tell people what exchanges are doing with their coin? or i just did not know that is a normal thing.
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@drakos ·
$0.17
Congratulations asshole, you just alienated the whole STEEM community.
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@martie7 ·
>Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.

Yes, it's hurt)))
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@techslut ·
$0.05
What the what now? So... this was never a decentralized blockchain but a bad illusion of one? Shame I wasted so much time on it. Prepare for mass exodus and posts of community leaders announcing what crypto-blogging platform they're moving to. See you all there, I guess.
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@oldtimer ·
Where?
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@techslut · (edited)
Not sure yet. Waiting to hear community leaders (aka witnesses) decisions. There's no shortage of options. I am currently trying to understand uptrend.com and a few others. Gosh this sucks.
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@jacobpeacock ·
This is rather illuminating:

# @ura-soul Witness Update - Anarchy vs. Empire: TRON Replaces Top Witnesses and Takes Over the STEEM Blockchain
https://steempeak.com/witness/@ura-soul/ura-soul-witness-update-anarchy-vs-empire-tron-replaces-top-witnesses-and-takes-over-the-steem-blockchain
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@jacobpeacock ·
A good video by @lukestokes explaining how STEEM on exchanges was used to vote in new witnesses.

# Your stake in Steem on centralized exchanges was just used to take over the Steem Blockchain

https://steempeak.com/steem/@lukestokes/your-stake-in-steem-on-centralized-exchanges-was-just-used-to-take-over-the-steem-blockchain
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@glastar ·
China quality!
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@alexvanaken ·
$0.02
> More Rewards to Witnesses

You mean more for yourself now that you just took over all top 20 witness spots with your sock puppet accounts? @justinsunsteemit
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@bil.prag ·
> Hello Steemians, we apologize for not updating you sooner but the last thing we wanted to do was give you inaccurate or untruthful information. We have now met with the TRON team and are excited to share with you the outcome of those meetings.

you kinda lied just 3 days ago. and you are right, exciting things, you just forgot to tell that exciting things will be a hostile takeover.

Also i would like to say hello and thank you to people in SteemIt inc, as they know about this for sure.
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@namiks ·
> This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

Almost like something you've just done.
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@flemingfarm ·
$0.02
Giant cunts! It wasn't a small group it was most of the witnesses. Sounds like you just stole the user funds that were on the exchanges to do something illegal. Nice to see this is how Steem ends. In a pile of flames and rubble. Hoping to see the real witnesses hardfork Steemit and ALL their stake out! Enough of your ineffectiveness! Might be good to look at the number of people who are powering down as a good tell of what the user base thinks of this bullshit. 
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@kennyskitchen ·
Pretty sure there will be a hardfork.
* One side: tron, steemit inc, steemit.com, steemit.kr, steemconnect (maybe), their full nodes (the most important thing really)
* Other side: the community, splinterlands, steempeak, keychain, 3speak, many others
Unknown: many, specifically thinking esteem, dtube as important unknowns to me

My plan:
* Stick with the community, keep my same stake on that chain (or increase, especially if price drops.)
* Liquidate 100% (over time probably, depends on post-fork price) on tron-chain, remove all my content (replace it all with a redirect to my content on the community chain), use my down-votes against steemitron as I power down :-P
* Revel in our new/old blockchain that has just removed a ~20% stake that was ill-gotten gains, PLUS we've gone through major crisis together, AND we got more news than ever before.
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@d00k13 ·
$0.02
Thank you for enabling me to cash out quicker now that you have exposed the flaws to the control of this platform! We may have backed you into a corner but your inability to communicate does not show promise for our community! Do you fully understand that we are not just a blockchain investment to be controlled but a group of real people with interest that can easily change?

Can’t say I didn’t see this coming 🤦‍♂️ 
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@ervin-lemark ·
$0.04
Fully downvoted!

For the last four years, I am a part of this community and this community doesn't agree with you.

This move is an orchestrated hostile takeover.

Getting exchanges to steal Steem from their customers,
putting on fake witness nodes,
voting for these fake witnesses with stolen funds,
creating hard fork with the *approval* of these fake witnesses.

Congratulations!

Your move will go into the blockchain history books as the first documented successful gaming of the DPoS platform.

What you did today has no precedence. You don't even begin to realize how wrong you are.

Which, sadly, doesn't surprise me.

What I, sort of, wonder is, how does @dantheman feel about it? Is he just a bit sad?

---

Now, to more pressing business? Community hard fork?
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@belemo ·
Yeah. Fuck you guys. 
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@derangedvisions ·
$0.03
In about a month, Justin has almost killed what he has purchased. I think he has been successful at what he set out to do.
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@phgnomo ·
well.. thats it. im done with steem.

Thank you @justinsunsteem and tron

well done
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@kennyskitchen ·
Steemit is dead. Long live (currently un-named fork)!
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@jacobpeacock ·
# Good Town Hall Happening Right Now
https://mspwaves.com/watch

Discord: https://discord.gg/WehQ9g
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@blockchained ·
> The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.

It will be decided the same way as you put sock-puppets at the top today.
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@royfletcher ·
Ok .. but I don't understand why steemfollower has closed. if the agreement with Tron was successful.
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@kennyskitchen ·
Tron is attempting to hostile take-over the network, that's what this announcement is actually say, in weird political lies. Most of the dApps shut down as a protest, their way of saying "No, we will not be taken over."
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@royfletcher ·
I understand!! even if Tron wouldn't be a bad partner !! history teaches that it is better to ally between us and not make war, especially in this world. Always being fair to others.
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@monsterjamgold ·
That was a really sneaky move and i am hoping you restore community voted witnesses not com voted witnesses.

I would love to see these changes to be made for voting for witnesses:
● Reduce voting to max of 5 witnesses
● Voting stake for witnesses only active after 1 month
● No using peoples steem from exchanges for voting
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@distantsignal · (edited)
$2.98
Was this written by the CCP?  

Immediately threatening the top witnesses, whose responsibility is the integrity of the blockchain and community, with legal ramifications while using OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY WITHOUT PERMISSION to gain voting power to undermine those witnesses by using funds on exchanges is as authoritarian and fraudulent as it gets.  I can't believe how long we've been contributing and advocating for Steem as a decentralized, censorship resistant chain.  I'm very disappointed.  A little embarrassed actually. 

> Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured...

HOW IS THIS ACTION NOT MALICIOUS!??!  It was done to prevent this exact action by Sun which by its very nature betrays and corrupts the system by centralizing it.  This is actually causing harm to everyone on the chain.  This is the actual, malicious act.
 
>intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal. 

No rights were diminished and no property was taken away.  What a bunch of emotional pandering.

> QuoteThey even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger. This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

Again, was this written by the CCP?  The gall! To claim that centralizing a chain to save it from centralization is just about as close to double speak as you can get.  By betraying the mission and nature of the chain YOU have put every Steem holder, developer and community interest at danger.  

I guess I'll just have to wait until the discussion on March 6th, but I can't continue to promote Steem while this Civil War takes place.  

For what it's worth, I'm for a hardfork to a new Steem chain.  Maybe Steem Classic isn't the right name for it, because it'll be too closely tied with Steem Tron.  
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@ladybug146 ·
we could call it "not-steemy"
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@theycallmedan ·
$1.17
A day that will live in infamy. A small community stood against a tyrant. Few stood up to the collusion of centralized exchanges to try and overtake a chain. 

STEEM is not the tech, STEEM is the community. I suggest you stop your attack, let the community vote in the witnesses, not centralized exchanges using MY and other Steemians funds to hurt their investment.
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@coininstant · (edited)
Whatever u signed up for this, stake is stake, this is the law if the land. If you don’t like it now, leave! U should have known what you have been investing in the whole time. Quit bitching and moaning and grow up! I’m a steemian too and i’m happy as pie to see this change. Speak for yourself, don’t let the door hit you in the but on the way out! cya! I’m staying now, like your post said weeding out the week! bye
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@bigdizzle91 ·
For a guy with a little dick you sure have fucked everyone good.
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@roomservice ·
$0.08
Why didn't you make hf22-5 changes public on github?

I don't find any information right here:
https://github.com/steemit

**Does this mean, I simply have to hope that Steemit.com didn't added any other malicious stuff to the code-base?**
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@shanghaipreneur ·
加fuckin油,老孙!也许现在我们可以在这里获得一些不是那么meta的内容
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@aagabriel ·
@Justinsunsteemit
YOU FUCKED UP
https://twitter.com/BlockDXExchange/status/1234522682198298624
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@fitzgibbon ·
Please roll this back sir
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@skepticology ·
The actions of witnesses running 22.2 were wrong and compromised the integrity of the chain, and while I understand need to secure the platform and reclaim stake, I think witnesses who are longstanding community members and publicly opposed 22.2,  who were actively running 22.1, warrant consideration for witness support from all parties, some examples being quochuy and blockbrothers. Commitments to the community have been clearly communicated by Steemit Inc. and we should reflect on what we want future to look like instead of focusing on past grievances.
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@creativetruth ·
To The Steemit Team @steemitblog,

# The Promise

There is supposed to be good faith listening and communication between the witnesses we voted for and The Steemit Team. That is what The Steemit Team promised us. This is what the witnesses wanted.

Users wanted to know about the things stated in today's open letter weeks ago. Some answers were not forthcoming. Questions were being awkwardly ignored. The Steemit Team was not voicing answers to questions, so their voice was provoked by taking away their staked power, in a soft fork. And it worked! Now we have more answers. Although we paid for it by having our own voices partly silenced. Our witnesses are gone. Our dapps have gone dark.


# Now how about that March 6th meeting?

Will our questions and concerns be heard? We have been eagerly interested in hearing what The Steemit Team has to say.

Both sides behaved badly against the other. Obviously there was no other option for either side. Either grab their current power levels and free governance by the horns, or wait for it to be controlled by their opponents.

To rebuild the peace, both sides will have to offer trust anew. This will be challenging because that trust was abused from both sides, but it must be done. Levels of decency and respect need to be maintained for people to cooperate. People do not follow rules as eagerly as computers follow code.

We understand why The Steemit Team under Justin Sun would rather make only positive statements to boost the popularity and morale of using Steem and Tron in partnership. This is an admirable goal. Why not use this strategy to help restore trust by offering some trust back to some of our witnesses? I think that would be the best starting point to extend the olive branch.

# Question

What does this statement mean to the average person here?

> For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community while having an open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses.

Are you planning to use voting rights for things beyond voting in your own witnesses? Such as curating and downvoting? Can you elaborate, if so? As unoffcial as it is, we have always had freedom to communicate our individual comments and questions here on the blockchain. What sort of open channel are you now describing? A few mediated meetings from time to time would be great.

To what extent will The Steemit Team be willing to serve the actual most-wanted requests of its users? Last time in your open letter, you stated that you wanted to listen to what we had to say. So far, The Steemit Team has always chosen their own roadmap and goals. Feedback has influenced their decisions, but ultimatesly The Steemit Team has always acted of their own will. Should we expect this to be the continuing trend?

# Conclusion

Thank you for hearing my words. I have invested too much of my time and worth into Steem to sit quietly and watch people behaving badly go and destroy everyone's hard work and dreams. We have the best developers in the world working on both sides of the aisle. The only thing stopping us from creating the best blockchain in the world is our own egos. Let's set that aside and build a true round table for everyone to be treated as equals. Decentralization is the dream. Can you make it a reality?

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@enforcer48 ·
They won't read this.
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@vermithrax ·
Seven of our witnesses are back.
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@blanchy ·
What did the witnesses expect was going to happen after the soft fork?? Soft fork an account of a billionaire that just purchased some assets. Brains to burn these guys.  You could see this coming all day long. 
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@pfunk ·
$0.03
Go fuck yourselves
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@norbu ·
I Agree!
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@hobo.media ·
$0.06
Bitcoin and Ethereum communities tell everyone over and over that on-chain governance does not work...

How many blockchains need to be dominated by a small party for you all to get it. On-chain governance always leads to corruption. It did with EOS and TRON and now Steem. This is the result of on-chain governance. Its faux "decentralization" and the little people always get fucked.
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@joshman ·
$0.03
Judging by the payout on this post, it appears the community has spoken.  You know what the intent of the soft fork was, as it was clearly stated.  You just seek to unilaterally bully yourself into a better position.  

Side one: Several appointed community members fork to 'force a conversation'

Side two:  Single stakeholder unilaterally forks to 'force a conversation' while asserting they are protecting decentralization

Can't make this shit up!
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@bossel ·
"For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community while having an open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses. The goal is to protect the Steem blockchain from bad actors, add transparency, and receive community suggestions and advice."

This very much sounds like CCP talk, which would then translate to: 
'We are the dictators now. All we do is in the interest of the people. We decide what is in the interest of the people. Everyone who opposes us is a bad actor. Transparency is what we decide to reveal. You are free to have an opinion, which we are free to ignore. If we don't like your opinion, you will be punished.'


"We’ll be learning a lot from TRON’s team on how to build a healthy exchange relationship"
From what I have seen, that healthy relationship looks like forming a cartel to enforce your will at all cost. 
The way you act, you are only losing any trust or goodwill people might have had.
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@jacobpeacock ·
# **Your stake in Steem on centralized exchanges was just used to take over the Steem Blockchain** 
https://twitter.com/linuxmanuals/status/1234555777437683712?s=20 #steem #steemfraud #news
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@farizal ·
Those whales in Etrhereum and EOS should come here and play the same game with TRON then STEEM will be great again.
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@bil.prag ·
> The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member, on any terms they want.

Binance and Poloniex can do what they did to steem to any other coin on terms that they want, so people that have coins there, maybe you should be careful. If they did it to steem they will probably do it to other coins too.
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@elgeko ·
$0.08
`TRON is known for its thriving ecosystem`

TRON is known for its shady snake oil marketing, ridiculously blown up numbers, and straight lies into users faces.  Or do I live in a paralell universe?
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@reesteemiter · (edited)
$0.10
Generally I don't comment on the articles I read, I haven't participated in the platform for a long time but I always try to be aware of what's going on. Today I find that the mood here is very agitated and I want to allow myself to give my opinion if anyone is interested. I speak on behalf of the community I did not know about steem, of those more than 5000 users who follow my account of which perhaps many are inactive by not finding what they expected or seeing too hard a way. I want to summarize what I have found and please correct the areas where I am wrong. We have always been crying out for investors to be able to keep breathing, then one appears @justinsunsteemit who invests so much money that they buy about 20% of the shares. But since that is a lot of influence, we are afraid of not knowing or suspecting what he might do with that power and we try to block him. The user moves his influence in some exchange houses to defend himself from that attack and at the same time he counteracts taking control of everything, then he appears here trying to convince us that it is something temporary and of his intentions by means of A Roadmap but the indignation that those who lost the power feel leads them to attack him by means of comments and protest actions. 

This is my point of view on: 

The purchase of steemit inc. is something you'll notice is a good thing because a major investor has set his sights on our platform. 

Fear of abuse of power

As far as the rules are the same for all users where SPs represent the influence a user has or can have on the platform, a user who invests a lot is entitled to that Influence he has bought (it is his investment). SF should not have been applied just to affect this user, since it is not a decentralized act. I agree that we should protect ourselves from one person deciding for millions, but why wasn't it applied globally so that no one with more than 300K SP could vote? Maybe that affected the interests of many who are offended today? 

 If we really want decentralization something like this should have been done to choose our witnesses: votes under 500 SP add up to one when collectively they reach 500 SP, above that every vote is worth 1, the delegations do not count. We will have witnesses really elected by the community and not by whales as it is now or was before. Because what the new investor has done now will happen before without anyone being bothered, for example a user with 2 votes from 500K SP users had more right to be a witness than a user with 500 votes from users with 100SP, is that a fair election? Well, they wanted to prevent someone else from doing what many were already doing. 

 I think that the solution to the conflict is to implement a vote like the one I have described so that the community really chooses its Witnesses and does not continue to attack someone who not only put faith in our platform but who is still open to dialogue. 

 By the way, if he has influence in the exchange houses he is in my opinion an excellent ally.
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@distantsignal ·
$0.04
I downvoted you because of your... 

# LOUD formatting.  

You shouldn't bold your way into getting noticed.  Thanks for your thoughts.
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@reesteemiter · (edited)
$0.11
I didn't know it was forbidden, it was enough to let me know to correct it but you first used your punishment vote. That's the problem that has kept steem from growing, you think punishment is the way because you have the power to punish, but then you complain when someone else with more power than you (@ben for exaple) uses it against you. It's a vicious circle that doesn't solve anything. The first correction should be the advice, and the punishment ultimately when the advice is not followed. See how you've been a part of the current state of steem? I've already corrected, I hope you can remove your unnecessary flag.
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@cryptonewz ·
Tron is a shit coin and so does with steem coin also.. Steem is a shit coin now.. Im still stuck in here for 13 weeks.. I need to go out from here before to late.. Panic Time!!!!
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@eirik ·
@ben (Justin Sun) flagging constructive comments is a new low.
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@freebornangel ·
$0.02
# Stinc is now officially stunc.
New boss, same as the old boss.

And you had to steal stake not your's to do it.
Do you see the irony?

The die is cast now, let's hope it ain't craps.
(Thanks alot, rich assholes!)
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@sayitsister ·
$0.37
You are dealing with more than a business here – you are dealing with a community. A community that has been here longer than you have.  Steem & Steemit “Elders” have poured their passion into the site & currency over the years, and with that invested time & passion, they deserve some respect.  You bought the company – not the people.  Money can buy a lot of things – trust isn’t one of them.

Since the moment you took hold of Steemit (through an unannounced sudden back-alley deal), you have done very little to address the communities concerns or answer their questions.  You are the new kid.  You can’t come into this and expect to be accepted and earn trust by keeping everyone in the dark.  The balloon drop with confetti cannons while changing every topic to “TRON” isn’t selling it.  We are not the TRON community – we are the Steem community.  The fireworks that light up your sky when you talk about TRON are just for you. 

You have done nothing to understand and empathize with the Steem community & witnesses.  You can try twisting what the witnesses did (freezing the Steem accounts you own) as much as you want, but the move the witnesses made was with a passion for protecting Steem – an act out of precaution for what they love caused by your silence on your intentions & way of shrugging off community questions.  Your actions today were done selfishly, recklessly, & shows your lack of empathy and understanding.  You have effectively lost any chance at trust from some of the most passionate Steem users & witnesses.  You did not do your part when you entered this community to introduce yourself correctly and clearly state your intentions.  You came in as a TRON salesman, and sorry, none of us were buying – we already had Steem.

I think more than your move today, the most unfortunate thing we learn from this, is the fact that you didn’t hear the community.  We were talking.  We had questions and concerns.  You just didn’t care enough to listen.  You did whatever it took to get your Steem back.  Pretending you did it to gain back control of the community is “transparent” and we are seeing right through it.  You have proven that you care more about the money than you do the community.  You are the bad actor.
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@johan.norberg · (edited)
Whoever wrote this post (waaay up above my comment) is a douchenozzle. Sometimes name-calling is called for, and this is one of those times.
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@billybohner ·
This is so fucked. Thanks to Justin for ruining this community and totally losing the trust & interest of the users that have been here since the beginning.
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@wil.metcalfe ·
NO. We are NOT interested in this "exciting" future you speak of @steemitblog. Based on how you have strong armed the community it is clear to me and the rest of the REAL Steem Community what this would look like. Bleak to say it mildly. 

People who are interested in freedom above all else simply do not conduct themselves in this manner. So I say, "HECK NO!" to anything and everything you and your people have to say about the future of where you think the Steem Blockchain is headed. 

Wave all the dollar bills you want in our faces... That's not the reason we are here. We are here for far more than financial gain. The disrespect you have shown the Steem Community in hijacking the voted witness's (Voted for by US the USERS) is despicable and UNACCEPTABLE! 

As long as I am on this Blockchain I will resist any and all action you and your people take... And here's the thing to remember @justinsunsteemit... I am not alone in this opinion. 

You are the new guy and this is an infrastructure based on influence and reputation. In a sanctuary of freedom you can not possibly think that you can come bumbling and crashing in here dictating your will upon the entire Steem Community like an entitled hooligan. 

This is a community of people of smart and capable people who actually care about each others well-being... And from what I can see these are clearly things that you have a lot to learn about unfortunately.  

I have said my mind... Now I am going to vote with all my Steem Accounts towards a brighter and better future for this Blockchain. 
___
I suggest everyone reading these words do the same. Check the Witness Voting page and look to see who among the witness's have written something constructive about this sham. AND GIVE THEM YOUR VOTES.

<center>https://steemitwallet.com/~witnesses</center>
👍  , ,
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@nuthman ·
I don't understand why you have done this to us. Why would you make such a hostile move against the Steem community and decentralization? No one will ever trust Steemit again after this. The best thing you can do is to reverse this insane action and give control of the Witnesses back to the community. 

Steemit, you have cut off your nose to spite your face.
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@vermithrax ·
He can't reverse it completely. The sock puppet accounts are powered up and 7 witness places have been regained. That means the planned 3 day power down won't happen. Millions of STEEM from the exchanges locked in VEST.
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@drutter ·
"..nullify all existing STEEM token.."

That's all I need to hear. I already lost LITERALLY 99% of my investment here over the past 2.5 years, and now the new management is talking about the possibility of going to zero?

I'm done. 

Taking my tiny stack of 8k or so and finding a ship that isn't torpedoing itself.
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@vermithrax ·
But while you power down do vote for real witnesses:

https://steemit.com/steem/@theycallmedan/call-to-action-earn-upvotes-to-vote-for-witnesses
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@phusionphil ·
Fuck you and everything you are.
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@overkillcoin ·
The community has called you out on your lies and heavy-handed tactics. 


![image.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmULiziLJ24ksGjMfVuSXia18SJ7Xb2iFqxYdzwEXbUpaJ/image.png)
👍  
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@sumit1998 ·
I think community answered you.
👍  
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@lordneroo ·
$0.06
You never understood what it was you actually bought, Justin, just like you don't seem to understand that the power of Steem is the community behind the platform. Good luck saving your reputation in the global crypto community.
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@moemanmoesly ·
What you did just goes to show that the original witnesses were right about you...
👍  
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@vermithrax ·
I was just about to post the same.
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@abbenay ·
Is time to grow in other decentralized social networks such as creary.net. Witnesses! Here is a tutorial to create a node in this community. The consensus it is 25 witness nodes. See you there tutorial >>> https://creaproject.io/set-crea-witness-node/
👍  
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@vermithrax ·
Or perhaps hard fork the chain into two separate chains. One with just Justin's 20 witnesses and one chain with everybody else.
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@arcange · (edited)
JOIN THE REVOLUTION
![](https://i.imgur.com/1IisxxB.png)
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@stefano.massari ·
The "Product Roadmap" described in this post gives me hope
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@wakeupkitty · (edited)
As I understand the engineers left and abandoned steemit already?

As I understand the actions of the witnesses started a war here on Steem and the users are the ones who pay the bill, right?

I wonder if the power down is realized and why the witnesses didn't wait till the meeting of March 9th, 2020.
Did you, those few rich witnesses have your money already while the rest can drop dead?

> Via block trade there's no way to sell Steem, SBD since days (under maintenance). What does this mean for little fish and what other platforms are available instead?

### The reason WHY this platform once started does no longer count.

In the past year, nearly every benefit for users was removed to benefit a small group of users here.
As I understand in the future, the future you paint here, we are the stupid working class: writing, promoting, engaging and the witnesses are the ones who earn.

If I read this right I start thinking it's a good thing [@justinsunsteem](https://steemit.com/@justinsunsteem) took over what is his.
He dared to invest in a sinking ship, drained by a very small group. Something new might do this ship well.

It's sad and a bad thing what is done to and concerns more as only you. There is **no** decentralization if the plans written down here were realized.

@heartbeat1515 you can read this and the comments too please.
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@vermithrax ·
> As I understand the actions of the witnesses started a war here on Steem.

No, Justin Sun started  a war here on Steem by thinking he can just buy a blockchain.
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@wakeupkitty ·
@vermithrax Thank you for clearing me up. Question: there are so many sites/dapps why didn't/dont they continue without the steemit part? <div class="pull-right"><sub><a href="/@steemreply/steemreply-stay-in-touch-with-your-steem-network">Posted with ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbroYujK9LNd2s8zDKPUCADmseyJDuNbhwBPrrF7xM8FL/logo-comment.png)</a></sub></div>
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@heartbeat1515 ·

**As I understand the engineers left and abandoned steemit already?
**
This is what I heard too. 

**As I understand the actions of the witnesses started a war here on Steem and the users are the ones who pay the bill, right?
**
I'm not sure about this one.  

**Via block trade there's no way to sell Steem, SBD since days (under maintenance). What does this mean for little fish and what other platforms are available instead?**
I didn't know about this one. 

**@heartbeat1515 you can read this and the comments too please.**
I've read the post but I'm a bit confused. Which steemit team are these? 

I found these.  
https://steemit.com/steem/@justinsunsteemit/justinsunsteemit-witness-voting-policy

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@wakeupkitty ·
Thank you. 👍💕
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@justinsunsteem ·
I'ts all mine HAHAHAHA!
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@vermithrax ·
> On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.

233 downvotes and 889 mostly negative (for you) comments say otherwise. It's wasn't a small group.

We are not happy. And we are certainly not happy that you unilaterally attacked our duly elected witnesses.

> For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights

… to set up a tyranny. Or at least try to set up.

> The goal is to protect the Steem blockchain from bad actors, 

You are the bad actors. You came here to take over our blockchain.

> After the 4-6 weeks period, the Steemit team will give the governance back to the community when it’s back in order and mutual agreement.

Thats what every tyrant says — but never does. In 6 weeks you will announce you need another 6 weeks to restore order and mutual agreement.

And then another 6 weeks. And then another 6 weeks. You are a tyrant and will never give up power.

Only, it didn't quite work. Democracy had a comeback on Steem:

![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/vermithrax/TT0tKWNR-image.png)
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@rosepac ·
I don't care who wins this egos fight, or if they agree or not.

I only know. That steemit is not what it could be. And that has not yet seen the great potential of the platform. It has not been converted into a page similar to Medium. But with a different payment system. And that is what Steemit should be today.

Instead, what I do know for sure. 

It is that with the passage of time Steemit has become a platform focused on a few witnesses and whales or similar, which earn a lot.

Not on a platform focused on finding a balance.

In which there is a majority of its average users who earn "enough" and who are witnesses and whales. Always be earning a little more. Always earn something else. But a little, not much more.

Because that would generate a real balance.

And if it could be. That the witnesses and the whales receive that benefit from behind. Being in the shade without having to generate the content of the platform and feed on it.

What exactly is happening now? The exact opposite.

If you want to create a balance you must generate a community based on a Gaussian system, and not in a winner based system.

There are many theories that talk about this.
For example. Jaron Lanier, in your book: Who owns the future....

For that. You need intelligence, users, content and the best possible formula to be able to make the content profitable.

Not exclusively profitable content with "the benefit" of the blockchain itself. Because that seems untenable clearly. As much as we don't like it.

It is impossible to give a small benefit to all the contents, if there are no income formulas external to the blockchain itself.

And while there are no resources to distribute among all; that Gaussian ecosystem will never exist.

Witnesses and whales / owners will continue without changing their thoughts..
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@karenmckersie ·
So now I can't log into my wallet on Steemit or Hive and I have stayed out of this whole mess @steemitblog !! It's rediculous all us innocent people have to suffer cause the children want to keep fighting in the sand box! Such B.S! There goes my 4 years invested on this platform...It was all for nothing and it's all very depressing!!
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@doingdailies · (edited)
i think if you can keep that price going green you might be on the right track to be forgiven into the realms of heaven


![image.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRmktvpD5UssdspXWC1dfWqusoLAXCYaKcWPa9ZHoo6AS/image.jpg)

if only the people complaining would have been people who ever helped me with anything at all ...

so i do feel for blocktrades but i dont understand why he puts playing Leonidas over business

since they're running business in the first place
with employees and all that

so i guess they don't need the business and they can keep up paying the employees

i don't understand all that rich-kid wu-wa ...

i understand prices and a coin that doesnt even trade with $5 dollar between high and low is useless to anyone but millionnaires

i think its a great chance to make thing *something* now there's real money behind it , someone who doesnt need it for the money

but desperately wants to WIN against voice, right ? :)

slap vitalsky around a bit with 'something useful on THE chain' ?

cuz who cares about a million if you nearly got 100 billion to your name

i don't believe in 'good' people anyway, i dont think they exist

its a nice theory though ... 'good' people

whatever it is, it hasnt been this interesting in like

ever? to me ...
at least

<hr>
uh huh ... no neither the guy or the chinese government is paying me to take over some social network about no one on the planet ever heard of, ... if they were ?

if they were id be posting this from an abandoned corona-free island with satellite-net, a small mansion, twin chinese supermodels and my cat nearby

i can assure you im not ...
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@edwardhy ·
good
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@tcpaikano ·
this is how communism eliminates all the witnesses, to install theirs
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